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Old 07-26-2011, 08:28 PM   #1
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Default Al Jazeera calling beck a terrorist?
I thought according to Hillary Clinton it is the only place you can get real news?

Al Jazeera op ed Ahmed Moor Compares Glenn Beck to Anwar Al-Awlaki Norway Shooting | TheBlaze.com He opens his article by decrying “right-wing propaganda“ and ”reactionary bigotry:”

The Norwegian terrorist who murdered more than ninety innocent civilians – many of whom were teenagers – did not act alone. Or rather, he acted within a cultural and political context that legitimises his fearful and hate-infested worldview. It is now clear that Anders Behring Breivik was exposed to large amounts of right-wing propaganda. This tragedy underlines the urgency with which normal people around the world must combat fundamentalist nationalists and chauvinists wherever they may be. But it also demonstrates the extent to which reactionary bigotry has infected mainstream thought.

What kind of “right-wing propaganda?“ How about ”right-wing zealots” like Glenn Beck who, according to Moor, is comparable to American-born Al Qaeda operative Anwar Al-Awlaki:

[...] But the combatants are not Islam and the West. Instead, the war is between the normal, sane people of the world and the right-wing zealots who see doom, destruction, hellfire and God’s Will at every turn. Anders Behring Breivik, Mohammed Atta and Baruch Goldstein are all cut from the same rotten cloth. Anwar Al-Awlaki and Glenn Beck – the peddlers of the faith – all share the same core afflictions.

These men are insecure, violently inclined, and illiberal. The outside world scares them. They hate homosexuals and strong women. For them, difference is a source of insecurity. Their values are militarism, conformism, chauvinism and jingoism. Worst of all they seek to pressure us into compliance while they work frantically to destroy themselves – and the rest of us with them. That sound like a news org to you?

Glenn Responded today on his radio show.

Beck Responds to Al Jazeera Comparing Him to Terrorist | Video | TheBlaze.com

At one point, Beck went line-by-line to dismantle the op-ed by Palestinian-American Ahmed Moor, who accused Beck of hating “homosexuals and strong women.” Beck pointed out that not only does he have homosexual friends, but also married a very strong woman. He also noted that he came out strong against the Oslo shooter on Monday, calling the man “monster.” Like the man or not I find it horrifying how much wieght our left leaders put in Al Jazeera.
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:09 PM   #2
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While I agree that Al Jazeera has a strong bias against the American right-wing, it's an Op-Ed, so put the onus on Moor this time.

I don't think the paper would be as reckless and tactless as this Moor guy was in its response, but crapping on dead people -- like Beck does in this case -- tends to draw a strong reaction.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:28 PM   #3
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Calling him a terrorist is a bit much but the guy really doesn't know when to shut up. How would Americans have felt if right after 9/11 a European news anchor started slagging off the US?
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:51 PM   #4
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Calling him a terrorist is a bit much but the guy really doesn't know when to shut up. How would Americans have felt if right after 9/11 a European news anchor started slagging off the US?
Except he didn't. I think you are mixing up hearsay with facts.
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Old 07-26-2011, 10:51 PM   #5
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While I agree that Al Jazeera has a strong bias against the American right-wing, it's an Op-Ed, so put the onus on Moor this time.

I don't think the paper would be as reckless and tactless as this Moor guy was in its response, but crapping on dead people -- like Beck does in this case -- tends to draw a strong reaction.
Beck does? Answering this is going to far? Are we to be a nation of cowards?
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:50 PM   #6
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I can't argue with the basic points of the op ed (though some of the specifics obviously need some work), that the true world conflict is the sane vs the zealots (in my opinion lefty zealots are just as bad as righty zealots.) and beck is certainly one of those zealots. Equating him with a suicide bomber is a bit much, but equating him with one of those radical islamic clerics fanning the flames? That pretty much fits him to a T.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:52 PM   #7
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I can't argue with the basic points of the op ed (though some of the specifics obviously need some work), that the true world conflict is the sane vs the zealots (in my opinion lefty zealots are just as bad as righty zealots.) and beck is certainly one of those zealots. Equating him with a suicide bomber is a bit much, but equating him with one of those radical islamic clerics fanning the flames? That pretty much fits him to a T.
You should listen to him before you judge him.
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:56 PM   #8
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You should listen to him before you judge him.
What makes you think I haven't? Because I disagree with you? I don't like Rush Limbaugh either and the same metaphor applies to him. I grew up listening to Limbaugh (my moms parents are hardcore conservative baptists, and that shit rubbed off on my ma who also listens to rush and beck, loves sarah palin and michelle bachmann, and also watches fox news 24/7. I love them to death but they really need to ease up on the blindly following the party line and dumbasses like beck and Rush) and that guy is a fucking jackass.
Both do nothing but fan the flames and editorialize the news for sheeple consumption. Which is not to say that CNN and friends are any better, nor that I vote democrat (because they are just as bad if not worse than the pubs. At least the pubs are pretty predictable, those dems though... yikes.).
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:37 AM   #9
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What makes you think I haven't? Because I disagree with you? I don't like Rush Limbaugh either and the same metaphor applies to him. I grew up listening to Limbaugh (my moms parents are hardcore conservative baptists, and that shit rubbed off on my ma who also listens to rush and beck, loves sarah palin and michelle bachmann, and also watches fox news 24/7. I love them to death but they really need to ease up on the blindly following the party line and dumbasses like beck and Rush) and that guy is a fucking jackass.
Both do nothing but fan the flames and editorialize the news for sheeple consumption. Which is not to say that CNN and friends are any better, nor that I vote democrat (because they are just as bad if not worse than the pubs. At least the pubs are pretty predictable, those dems though... yikes.).
what makes me think you don't is the post you made. Only who don't listen or those intentionally twisting the truth would post it .
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Old 07-27-2011, 01:14 AM   #10
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what makes me think you don't is the post you made. Only who don't listen or those intentionally twisting the truth would post it .
When are you going to realize that just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they are lying or ignorant? Beck and Rush BOTH fan the flames of zealotry. It's not quite as obvious as a fatwa declaring that you should kill the infidel, but it's effects are markedly similar.
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Old 07-27-2011, 01:34 AM   #11
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Glen Beck is a giant flatulant asshole. And I'm in a GOOD mood.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:24 AM   #12
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Except he didn't. I think you are mixing up hearsay with facts.
The news has quoted him verbatim so I'm unsure how I'm mixing things up. As I said if a European had said something similar after 9/11 he would have been rightly vilified.
Glenn Beck has a history of being anti European to a rather fanatical degree and it's one of the reasons his show has not had a single advert shown whilst it's on during the last few years. Fox are forced to show fox extra segments or run that stupid fox music.
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:44 AM   #13
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The news has quoted him verbatim so I'm unsure how I'm mixing things up. As I said if a European had said something similar after 9/11 he would have been rightly vilified.
Glenn Beck has a history of being anti European to a rather fanatical degree and it's one of the reasons his show has not had a single advert shown whilst it's on during the last few years. Fox are forced to show fox extra segments or run that stupid fox music.
Pro American is not anti European. Why is it Europe constantly critic America yet yhe minute an American does it it is hate?
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:40 AM   #14
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Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:56 AM EDT

Norwegian Official Condemns Glenn Beck’s ‘Hitler Youth’ Remark

A representative of the Norwegian government has condemned remarks made by U.S. radio commentator Glenn Beck in which he compared the Norwegian Labour Party members who were murdered by Anders Breivik during an outing to “Hitler Youth.”

During his syndicated radio show, Beck said: "There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler youth, or, whatever. I mean, who does a camp for kids that's all about politics. Disturbing.”
Torbjørn Eriksen, a former press secretary to Jens Stoltenberg, Norway's prime minister, called it a "a new low" for Beck.

Eriksen said to the British newspaper Daily Telegraph: "Young political activists have gathered at Utøya for over 60 years to learn about and be part of democracy, the very opposite of what the Hitler Youth was about. Glenn Beck's comments are ignorant, incorrect and extremely hurtful."

Beck has been losing popularity in the U.S., as exemplified by his sudden departure from Fox News earlier this year due to falling ratings and fall-out from other controversial comments. Norwegian Official Condemns Glenn Beck?s ?Hitler Youth? Remark - Entertainment & Stars

Glenn Beck is a lowlife opportunistic scumbag. Who to fuck would say such ignorant bullshit on the air, besides Beck? Have some respect for the dead, asshole. It's no wonder Fox dropped him, and advertisers are running from him in droves.
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:39 PM   #15
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Calling him a terrorist is a bit much but the guy really doesn't know when to shut up. How would Americans have felt if right after 9/11 a European news anchor started slagging off the US?
I agree.

He isn't a terrorist. Isn't really even "like" a terrorist.

He's more like a Sulayman bin Nasir al-`Alwan, or Mawdudi al-Abu al-A`la, or Abu `Umar al-Sayf, or any of the other major militant Islamic ideologues who write the books and position papers that the terrorist jihadin use to justify their behavior and recruit new jihadis.

He's not guilty of terrorism per se but the world would be a LOT better off without him.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:23 PM   #16
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The man's not a terrorist he's a clown who will say whatever it takes to get people to throw money at him. He's still doing a court jester schtick.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:50 PM   #17
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All these ridiculous comments about Glenn Beck are exactly that. Ridiculous. People comparing him to terrorists and say all kinds of other horrible things. It's completely stupid. I watched Glenn every day, and some days he got a little out there for my taste, but over all he wasn't bad. His main message was only get people to educate themselves and be vigilant of what's going on around you and don't choose to remain willfully ignorant. That's basicly it. All this "like a terrorist" crap is proposterous.
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Old 07-27-2011, 08:13 PM   #18
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Norwegian Official Condemns Glenn Beck?s ?Hitler Youth? Remark - Entertainment & Stars

Glenn Beck is a lowlife opportunistic scumbag. Who to fuck would say such ignorant bullshit on the air, besides Beck? Have some respect for the dead, asshole. It's no wonder Fox dropped him, and advertisers are running from him in droves.
Read history. Cause Hitler used youth camps quite successfully. Maybe you need to learn history. Also you need to find the actual quote.
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Old 07-27-2011, 08:42 PM   #19
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Read history. Cause Hitler used youth camps quite successfully. Maybe you need to learn history. Also you need to find the actual quote.
So you agree with what Beck said? For shame - I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Also, that is the actual quote, as far as I can tell. If you've got a different one, then post it.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:44 PM   #20
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Oy Vey!

A few under riding facts need to be established here.

1) Europe is losing the battle of the bedroom. Hell, they are not even fighting the battle of the bedroom. In fact, they are passing around the lube and grabbing their ankles. Muslim immigrants to Europe are fighting, and winning, and it does threaten the economic future and cultural identity of Europe. The Oslo Bomber realizes this, but instead of doing the rational thing, and settling down with a nice girl and multiplying, he decides to kill his fellow citizens. But hey, no one ever said terrorists are rational. Except maybe Palestinian-American Ahmed Moor.

2) Muslims are very concerned that word of their plans for the demographic conquest of Europe might get out, because Europe is well within is right and power to shut off the flow of immigration, therefore anyone who calls them on it is hate-mongerer. It's simply how Islam spreads.

3) If an American political party, particularly a conservative one, set up a summer camp, everyone here knows that allusions to Hilter Youth camps would come fast and furious. Hell, even the Boy Scouts get smeared with that, and they don't have a political agenda. Political parties having summer camps is weird, there is no doubt of that, even if this one is relatively benign and redundant since any parent willing to pay to send their kid to it would spout the same propaganda at home.
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