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Old 11-05-2011, 03:57 PM   #21
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You are not trying to say that Obama's 2012 campaign strategy is talking well to the military are you? (Just asking as it seems odd to link the two the way you have.)
I'll try to answer as though this were a serious question.
Recent events have virtually destroyed the image of this president as painted by the right wing. The contrived perception of President Obama being weak, indecisive, soft on terrorism, anti-military, a poor commander in chief, etc, etc..., sounds like just so much empty rhetoric now.
The birther nonsense has been finally disposed of; another Republican "messege" flushed down the toilet where it belongs.
Republican lawmakers have backed themselves into a corner on Medicare and Social Security too. Gosh, I wonder if Democrats will remind voters of how the GOP tried to destroy those programs?
What really scares Republicans most is continued economic recovery. If it keeps growing, even if only at the current pace, Republicans know they don't have a shot in 2012.
And just look at the current field of Republican contenders; looks like a field of midgets.
Like I said already: very poor optics for Republicans.
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Old 11-06-2011, 02:21 AM   #22
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Recent events have virtually destroyed the image of this president as painted by the right wing. The contrived perception of President Obama being weak, indecisive, soft on terrorism, anti-military, a poor commander in chief, etc, etc..., sounds like just so much empty rhetoric now.
Not at all. Too me he is weak, indecisive (Libya), soft on terrorism (can’t even call it terrorism, killed not captured OBL), anti-military (ask somebody in the military), poor commander in chief…(I want to be in that number).
Republican lawmakers have backed themselves into a corner on Medicare and Social Security too. Gosh, I wonder if Democrats will remind voters of how the GOP tried to destroy those programs?
Gosh, I wonder if voters will see through Democrats creating new entitlements?
What really scares Republicans most is continued economic recovery. If it keeps growing, even if only at the current pace, Republicans know they don't have a shot in 2012.
And just look at the current field of Republican contenders; looks like a field of midgets.
Like I said already: very poor optics for Republicans.
The economic record for two years of Democrat House/Senate/Presidency is record debt and printing money. Add then four years of Senate/Presidency doing the same. Blame Bush only gets you so far. This administration has been a disaster on so many levels. I pray for an economic recovery and if it happens it will be despite the administration.
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:03 AM   #23
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I'll try to answer as though this were a serious question.
Pathetic comment, and for little to no reason than someone daring to question your comments.

Recent events have virtually destroyed the image of this president as painted by the right wing. The contrived perception of President Obama being weak, indecisive, soft on terrorism, anti-military, a poor commander in chief, etc, etc..., sounds like just so much empty rhetoric now.
That is still a mixed bag when considering the issues related to Libya (and a few other things on Afghanistan and around the globe.) But, for the most part I agree in that the general rhetoric from the GOP is not holding up that well on this subject. The GOP has a better shot at showing 2008 campaign promises not kept (assuming no other changes in military use between now and 2012) than showing Obama to be weak on military. Anti-terrorism is perhaps another subject the GOP may have some play in but not enough to knock Obama out of office. At least not on this subject, IMHO.

The birther nonsense has been finally disposed of; another Republican "messege" flushed down the toilet where it belongs.
Agreed completely, was a waste of time and continues to be for those still wrapped up in conspiracy theories. Trump's self declared victory in this area has quickly become a joke and noticeably not many other GOP potential candidates seem to have much to add on this.

Republican lawmakers have backed themselves into a corner on Medicare and Social Security too. Gosh, I wonder if Democrats will remind voters of how the GOP tried to destroy those programs?
I do not see why not, it has been effective thus far for the Democrats in fighting off any real effort from the GOP to change these programs. Some may say that in itself was the obvious trap. Wait for a GOP position on dealing with unfunded liabilities then scare the hell out of everyone the moment it comes out. It was all dead in the water anyway in terms of the Senate and Obama's desk further setting up the political trap. All the while ignoring the growing unfunded future costs of both programs. There is no real serious plan to pay for all of this, any Democrat plan also adds mountains to our debt the further we go. This may be another area of play for the GOP, but not with the group they have at the mic now.

What really scares Republicans most is continued economic recovery. If it keeps growing, even if only at the current pace, Republicans know they don't have a shot in 2012.
And just look at the current field of Republican contenders; looks like a field of midgets.
Economic issues are always going to be an issue here and political spin is well under way by both parties. If the GOP has any prayer in 2012 they will have to come up with something good on this front. So far all I have seen is a typical non serious partisan response from the GOP on our spending issues (what gets cut and what does not), tax levels (old failed theories of wealth protection at the top), and overall they still plan to add to debt. No one has an answer for this. May be a tough sale for the GOP to make but at the same time the "we inherited it" spending spree has gotten some attention. Spending and debt levels are at a point hard to dismiss. This is the area I see the most debate on (well, the most attacks on the way from both sides on) between Democrats and Republicans headed into 2012. It has already started anyway, just a continuation of the mid terms. How this is played in company with the GOP being able to field a serious candidate is the watch for 2012. And perhaps the only area to watch.

Like I said already: very poor optics for Republicans.
I do not disagree really. And with the candidates (as you have said and I have said in other posts) the GOP is hinting at, or have already declared to run, it is not looking any better for them. But in all of this we have some time between now and 2012 to see how things change.
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