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Old 05-05-2011, 11:07 PM   #1
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YarrrRRRRRR!!!!!

ahoy me buckos!

though i thought Ryancare was a disaster fer those 'o us who be under 55, i did enjoy the idear that pressure was finally bein' bought to bear to begin a serious dialogue on how to reduce spendin' on our eldest.

one way or another, spendin' on the big three 'o entitlement healthcare plans have to be addressed...and fer that, congressman Ryan deserves credit fer puttin' a plan forward that, by hook or by crook, was goin' to cut the benefits old folks receive.

i thought 'twas gutless that them who be o'er 55 would be untouched, fer it seemed like typical washington to hand out slices 'o pie now (in this case, tax cuts fer the wealthiest americans) and deal with the hurt far, far down the road.

still...'twas a move in the right direction, fer if nothin' else, it pushed this urgent debate forward, aye....until now...

House Republicans signaled on Thursday that they were backing away for now from the centerpiece of their budget plan — a proposal to overhaul Medicare — underscoring the political risks of addressing the nation’s long-term fiscal problems.

Republican leaders insisted that they remained committed to the Medicare proposal, put forward by Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, which has drawn intense attacks from Democrats and liberal groups in recent weeks. But they chose not to proceed with legislation this year, effectively putting the issue off until after the next election. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/us...l.html?_r=1&hp

*hawks out a ball 'o phlegm and spits it on the deck*

rawr!

let it not be said that them House conservatives give a damn 'bout the nation's balloonin' debt, fer instead 'o just puttin' the pain somewhar down the road, they've now tabled the entire debate on the most urgent part 'o our government spendin', due to a yellow bellied fear 'o gettin' keelhauled at the polls. house conservatives, apparently, prefer to dick around with nickel 'n dime budget items like planned parenthood and NPR.

'tis just more 'o the same, aye? the more pressin' matter 'o "how do we get elected?" reigns supreme amongst the concerns 'o our folks in washington.

bah.

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Old 05-05-2011, 11:17 PM   #2
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Of course the Repubes now deny this :Eric Cantor's Office Denies Report That GOP Is Dropping Medicare Reform
But , then they always deny the truth
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:35 PM   #3
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Of course the Repubes now deny this :Eric Cantor's Office Denies Report That GOP Is Dropping Medicare Reform
But , then they always deny the truth
ahoy Uncle Mike of S,

welcome to USPO me hearty.

though i be vexed o'er the ACA, fer i was hopin' fer reform to come in a very different form, i hafta give Captain Obama and his officers credit; they withstood a season's fusillade 'o cannonfire from all sides whilst passin' thar bill.

imma surprised how thin skinned conservatives on capitol hill be. a little heat from a few town hall meetings, and they lift anchor and bury thar own bill.

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Old 05-05-2011, 11:51 PM   #4
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ahoy Uncle Mike of S,

welcome to USPO me hearty.

though i be vexed o'er the ACA, fer i was hopin' fer reform to come in a very different form, i hafta give Captain Obama and his officers credit; they withstood a season's fusillade 'o cannonfire from all sides whilst passin' thar bill.

imma surprised how thin skinned conservatives on capitol hill be. a little heat from a few town hall meetings, and they lift anchor and bury thar own bill.

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They are truly cowardly bullies as are most bullies and they prove it all the time with chickenshit acts like these. They said the wanted to replace it when they were running, but now are proving that they not only want to destroy the Pres' healthcare bill , but any kind of medical help for any but their fatcat friends .
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:55 PM   #5
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ahoy Uncle Mike of S,

welcome to USPO me hearty.

though i be vexed o'er the ACA, fer i was hopin' fer reform to come in a very different form, i hafta give Captain Obama and his officers credit; they withstood a season's fusillade 'o cannonfire from all sides whilst passin' thar bill.
imma surprised how thin skinned conservatives on capitol hill be. a little heat from a few town hall meetings, and they lift anchor and bury thar own bill.

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I know and Obamacare is so well liked, there are only 30 states taking Obamacare to the Supreme Court to kill it.

But to budget cutting, if the Pub's run to the sideline on cutting spending, then I will be one mad SOB. This spending is insane, we know the Dem's won't touch anything that requires a cut in spending. So if the Pubs fail in cutting, then we're fucked. Simple as that. You liberals and all your entitlements will drag this country into the fires of hell, not even our great great grandkids will be able to bail us out for all our greedy entitlements that they would not ever see and yet would have to pay for our greed.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:02 AM   #6
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I know and Obamacare is so well liked, there are only 30 states taking Obamacare to the Supreme Court to kill it.

But to budget cutting, if the Pub's run to the sideline on cutting spending I will one mad SOB. This spending is insane, we know the Dem's won't touch anything that requires a cut in spending. So if the Pubs fail in cutting, then we're fucked. Simple as that.
ahoy Forplay,

well, two things me bucko.

a) we're both unhappy with the ACA, though i suspect it be fer different reasons.

b) the "pubs", as ye put it, are hoistin' thar sails and runnin' away from cuttin' spendin' at a blisterin' pace...don't blink, or ye shall miss thar exit. ye can sleep in peace knowin' that they'll reduce spendin' by .0001% and take an axe to NPR and the budget fer the Securities and Exchange Commission (just don't ask "why" the next time thar be Wall Street malfeasance).

conservative congressmen hate gettin' yelled at durin' town hall meetings.

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Old 05-06-2011, 12:04 AM   #7
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ahoy Forplay,

well, two things me bucko.

a) we're both unhappy with the ACA, though i suspect it be fer different reasons.

b) the "pubs", as ye put it, are hoistin' thar sails and runnin' away from cuttin' spendin' at a blisterin' pace...don't blink, or ye shall miss thar exit. ye can sleep in peace knowin' that they'll reduce spendin' by .0001% and take an axe to NPR and the budget fer the Securities and Exchange Commission (just don't ask "why" the next time thar be Wall Street malfeasance).

conservative congressmen hate gettin' yelled at durin' town hall meetings.



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This spending is insane, we know the Dem's won't touch anything that requires a cut in spending. So if the Pubs fail in cutting, then we're fucked. Simple as that. You liberals and all your entitlements will drag this country into the fires of hell, not even our great great grandkids will be able to bail us out for all our greedy entitlements that they would not ever see and yet would have to pay for our greed.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:06 AM   #8
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This spending is insane, we know the Dem's won't touch anything that requires a cut in spending. So if the Pubs fail in cutting, then we're fucked. Simple as that. You liberals and all your entitlements will drag this country into the fires of hell, not even our great great grandkids will be able to bail us out for all our greedy entitlements that they would not ever see and yet would have to pay for our greed.
ahoy Forplay,

imma not a liberal.

i be a pirate (and a centrist, like Phoenix).

rawr.

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Old 05-06-2011, 12:12 AM   #9
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ahoy Forplay,

imma not a liberal.

i be a pirate (and a centrist, like Phoenix).

rawr.

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Sorry you have not showed me one and I mean not one thing you have ever said the would label you anything but a Liberal and I might add a far left one at that.

Me I'm a conservative and proud of it. But if the Pub's fail in cutting spending then I might as well join all you liberals and hold my hand out for any and all entitlement money I can get. The hell with the grandkids and great and great great grandkids. I going to want my entitlements and every penny I can squeeze out of Obama.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:18 AM   #10
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But if the Pub's fail in cutting spending...
errrm...hail Forplay?

the "Pubs" will fail at cuttin' spendin'...didn't ye read me OP? they just told ye they plan to fail.

they'll get back to you in 2013.

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Old 05-06-2011, 12:18 AM   #11
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ahoy Forplay,

well, two things me bucko.

a) we're both unhappy with the ACA, though i suspect it be fer different reasons.

b) the "pubs", as ye put it, are hoistin' thar sails and runnin' away from cuttin' spendin' at a blisterin' pace...don't blink, or ye shall miss thar exit. ye can sleep in peace knowin' that they'll reduce spendin' by .0001% and take an axe to NPR and the budget fer the Securities and Exchange Commission (just don't ask "why" the next time thar be Wall Street malfeasance).

conservative congressmen hate gettin' yelled at durin' town hall meetings.

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We both know what the difference is, I want Obamacare repealed and you want a far left liberal thinking single payer system.

Centrist my ass.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:20 AM   #12
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errrm...hail Forplay?

the "Pubs" will fail at cuttin' spendin'...didn't ye read me OP? they just told ye they plan to fail.

they'll get back to you in 2013.
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No I won't be there, I'll be standing right alongside you with my hand out.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:21 AM   #13
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We both know what the difference is, I want Obamacare repealed and you want a far left liberal thinking single payer system.

Centrist my ass.
avast ye Forplay,

as i said, the GOP will get back to ye in 2013. you just make yerself comfortable and sit tight till then. just make yerself at home with Oreo and Tsquare and Commodore and...ye know, they'll do some serious budget cuttin' sometime down the road (or somethin' like that).

*retrieves a message in a bottle*

*reads message*

oh ya, they also thank ye fer yer vote in the last congressional votin' cycle.

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ps - don't worry, the GOP will be busy showin' how serious they be by cuttin' some school lunch program and slice .0000001% off 'o government spendin'. till 2013, ye can feast on that.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:24 AM   #14
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avast ye Forplay,

as i said, the GOP will get back to ye in 2013. you just make yerself comfortable and sit tight till then. just make yerself at home with Oreo and Tsquare and Commodore and...ye know, they'll do some serious budget cuttin' sometime down the road (or somethin' like that).

*retrieves a message in a bottle*

*read message*

oh ya, they also thank ye fer yer vote in the last congressional votin' cycle.

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No worries I'll make myself comfortable, that's what greedy entitlement hunters do. They never go without. I'll be right there with you with my hand out.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:28 AM   #15
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Sorry you have not showed me one and I mean not one thing you have ever said the would label you anything but a Liberal and I might add a far left one at that.
*ponders*

hmm.

i like incandescent light bulbs.

hows that fer starters?

*celebrates*

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Old 05-06-2011, 12:30 AM   #16
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No worries I'll make myself comfortable, that's what greedy entitlement hunters do. They never go without. I'll be right there with you with my hand out.
*peers at the bench that Forplay's buttocks are restin'*

avast ye Forplay!

*points*

it says, "Ayn Rand was here".

waddya know?

aye!

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Old 05-06-2011, 12:36 AM   #17
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*ponders*

hmm.

i like incandescent light bulbs.

hows that fer starters?

*celebrates*

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Ok I'll take that under advisement, at the very least I'll make a note of it.
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Old 05-06-2011, 01:19 AM   #18
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I know and Obamacare is so well liked, there are only 30 states taking Obamacare to the Supreme Court to kill it.

But to budget cutting, if the Pub's run to the sideline on cutting spending, then I will be one mad SOB. This spending is insane, we know the Dem's won't touch anything that requires a cut in spending. So if the Pubs fail in cutting, then we're fucked. Simple as that. You liberals and all your entitlements will drag this country into the fires of hell, not even our great great grandkids will be able to bail us out for all our greedy entitlements that they would not ever see and yet would have to pay for our greed.
The progressive caucus proposal cuts $5.8 trillion over 10 years by cutting over $1 trillion of the bloated defense budget and significantly cutting corporate subsidies.

Thus far the Ryan proposal is the only one that actually adds to the deficit since his tax cuts are not paid for.

Stop avoiding these facts.
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:16 AM   #19
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The progressive caucus proposal cuts $5.8 trillion over 10 years by cutting over $1 trillion of the bloated defense budget and significantly cutting corporate subsidies.

Thus far the Ryan proposal is the only one that actually adds to the deficit since his tax cuts are not paid for.

Stop avoiding these facts.
And Ryan's plan cuts 6 trillion, and I really don't give a crap who's plan it is, but I assure I will only support a the plan that cuts the most money and solves Medicare, SS and Medicaid. In other word no more kicking the can down to our great great grandkids while we suck on the tits of government and enjoy our bloated greedy entitlements.
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:21 AM   #20
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ahoy all!

i been doin' a bit 'o readin', and now it be clearer why conservatives in the House suddenly turned tail and abandoned the idear 'o Ryancare in droves...and here it be; President Obama yelled at'm.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor insisted the Republican Party as a whole is convinced Medicare and similar federal programs need to be radically reformed, but he said that President Obama had “excoriated us” over the proposal. GOP Drops Plan to Gut Medicare … Cantor says Obama ?excoriated us? over proposal. InvestmentWatch

so, thar ye have it. the GOP will stand firm and hew to thar ideals...fer they be deficit hawks and will brook no dissent in thar pursuit 'o fiscal sanity. they be a tough bunch, battled hardned sea dogs 'o many journies.

THEY'LL ASK FER NO QUARTER AND GIVE NONE, AYEEEEEE!!!!!!






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