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Old 04-20-2011, 04:34 PM   #21
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Why you want to destroy this country, I'll never know.
Globalist George Soros: “America Should Be Replaced By a World Government With a Global Currency Under UN Rule”


George Soros Says The US Should Take On More Debt And Not Be Obsessed With Budget Cuts

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined by Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, then both sociologists and political activists at the Columbia University School of Social Work, in a 1966 article in The Nation entitled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".[1] The two were critical of the public welfare system, and their strategy called for overloading that system to force a different set of policies to address poverty. They stated that many Americans who were eligible for welfare were not receiving benefits, and that a welfare enrollment drive would strain local budgets, precipitating a crisis at the state and local levels that would be a wake-up call for the federal government, particularly the Democratic Party, thus forcing it to implement a national solution to poverty.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:25 PM   #22
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America should be the world ruler under the religious principles God gave America.

Only through God can the world be united. Only through God can the people of the world truly understand what a right truly is.

And only through God can our congress critters have the will to save this grandiose country from itself, and it's downward slide into Gehenna.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:43 PM   #23
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America should be the world ruler under the religious principles God gave America.

Only through God can the world be united. Only through God can the people of the world truly understand what a right truly is.

And only through God can our congress critters have the will to save this grandiose country from itself, and it's downward slide into Gehenna.
Wait, what?

Since the world cannot agree at all on not only on what God is but also what those religious principles should be, good luck with the notion that we can all be united under your assertion of "religious principles God gave America." Speak of, your "religious priniples God gave America" has resulted in how many types of different faiths out there in America alone? You know, the America you claim should be dominant yet cannot even figure this out under any sense of unity for themselves. This is aside from all the other types of faith out there in the US I am assuming would be inline to be conquered? As well as those here in the US without a faith, or your faith?

Most likely expect war, persecution, conquest, death, genocide, social divide and prejudice, more attempts of intrusive social controls, and everything else "religon" has given us over history. Especially when one religion claims being superior and right over others.

But, again good luck.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:47 PM   #24
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I guess the Tea Party lied. They promised to do something they did not do.

So much for campaign promises.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:59 PM   #25
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Since the world cannot agree at all on not only on what God is but also what those religious principles should be, That only means that humans simply can not understand the WoG. And that God is not here. When God returns, this will all be made clear and those who are not alive in Christ shall be given their just rewards.

This will all be made clear to you when you die.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:19 PM   #26
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I guess the Tea Party lied. They promised to do something they did not do.

So much for campaign promises.
Actually they did pretty much exactly what they said they'd do.

There's just not enough of them yet.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:21 PM   #27
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America should be the world ruler under the religious principles God gave America.

Only through God can the world be united. Only through God can the people of the world truly understand what a right truly is.

And only through God can our congress critters have the will to save this grandiose country from itself, and it's downward slide into Gehenna.
I'm really hoping this is sarcasm....
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:24 PM   #28
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How's that "teabagger" thingy workin' out for ya?

Figgered out what that taste is yet?
Yeah Goob, debt taste like shit. Of course you would not know because you could care less about our debt and you could care less if our great grandkids have to pay it back. Your a die hard liberal, borrow and spend, there is never an end to the money supply.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:27 PM   #29
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Actually they did pretty much exactly what they said they'd do.

There's just not enough of them yet.
2012 will solve that porblem.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:36 PM   #30
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2012 will solve that porblem.
Hope so, we don't have much time left to try and right the ship.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:39 PM   #31
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It was a mandate to cut spending.. and teh tea party did not simply vote republican.

The tea party actually put in conservatives/liberatrians to run and actually lost some races where if they siomply put in a RINO they would have won.

2012 will be about spending!!
Spending will trump high unemployment? Look, this spending deal is not something out of work Americans, or those afraid of losing their jobs would put above employment. Employment is very personal, and will trump any great fears of what might lie in the future. Folks generally worry about personal things that affect their daily lives, and are being felt more and more as the unemployment checks expire.

In other words, unemployment and fears of unemployment trump what is abstract to many Americans. The next election will be about the economy, unless we see drastic changes in the unemployment figures. Bet?
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:43 PM   #32
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I guess the Tea Party lied. They promised to do something they did not do.

So much for campaign promises.
The canidates that won, were either naive, or just using Americans to get into office. In other words, politics as usual.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:44 PM   #33
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2012 will solve that porblem.
I doubt that. There's a greater chance that the GOP will gain the presidency than there is that they would gain more power in Congress.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:47 PM   #34
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Yeah Goob, debt taste like shit. Of course you would not know because you could care less about our debt and you could care less if our great grandkids have to pay it back. Your a die hard liberal, borrow and spend, there is never an end to the money supply.
Hmmm. Well, the Pubs are very close to that defintion, except you would have to add reducing the taxes on the rich, then borrow and spend. How many times have some commentators on Fox News accused the Pubs in acting like Dems, during the Bush Jr. era? Short term memory loss?
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:48 PM   #35
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I doubt that. There's a greater chance that the GOP will gain the presidency than there is that they would gain more power in Congress.
Really? Can you elaborate on that as I was operating on the assumption that the exact opposite was more likely. My thoughts on it were more about the names floating around for potential Republican Presidential campaigns. Especially with respect to how well some did the last go around. That, and with the unsure Trump in the mix I assumed all eyes for Republicans (strategy) would be to fight hard for Senate control and holding House control really ending for a time the Democrat agenda.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:49 PM   #36
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Hope so, we don't have much time left to try and right the ship.
And you really think the Repub Party can pull that off? I sure don't. Women and children first...as on the Titanic.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:54 PM   #37
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Really? Can you elaborate on that as I was operating on the assumption that the exact opposite was more likely. My thoughts on it were more about the names floating around for potential Republican Presidential campaigns. Especially with respect to how well some did the last go around. That, and with the unsure Trump in the mix I assumed all eyes for Republicans (strategy) would be to fight hard for Senate control and holding House control really ending for a time the Democrat agenda.
I used to feel much of the same way, but the more I think about it, the more it really seems like Obama is more vulnerable than a lot of other Democratic incumbents.

2010 was a point in time where the GOP was able to reinvent its image with the Tea Party. A lot of grassroots candidates ran with the support of that movement, and a significant portion of the public trusted it.

At this point, I get more of the impression that moderates have lost interest in the Tea Party. So, it would be easier and more effective for the GOP to push harder to run someone to beat Obama than it would be to get another national movement going that would gain more seats in Congress.

Essentially, it's easier to focus your criticism on one man rather than on a collective that varies by district/state. I would think that the GOP has a better shot at beating one leader than at gaining several more seats at a time when the average person seems to distrust both parties.

The real trick here is to come up with a solid candidate. I would agree that a lot of the presidential candidates have been weak so far, but I'm starting to believe that we haven't seen the real GOP candidate yet.

Trump seems more like a sideshow attraction than a serious contender -- much like Palin.

The real movers and shakers will start making noise near the end of the year and the beginning of the next.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:56 PM   #38
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Hope so, we don't have much time left to try and right the ship.
You mean by borrowing and spending and growing the government like Reagan did?
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:41 PM   #39
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Yeah, it's the taste of needing a bunch more of them in the house, and in the senate.
Last I checked, the loonies were not supposed to run the loony bin. Different strokes, different folks, I guess.

The tea baggers will die out soon anyway. Their hype-meter is going to run dry and most of them will be put out of the legislature come next election. They got their 15 minutes and that 15 minutes is just about up. They should go for a reality show like the Jersey Shore to try and keep their money trains rolling.
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Old 04-20-2011, 08:51 PM   #40
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And you really think the Repub Party can pull that off? I sure don't. Women and children first...as on the Titanic.
As long as most of them are like the old Republicans, no.

And you say that as if there are any lifeboats at all. There aren't any, so you can't save anyone.
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