[VemyhemiHef]

I asked this question in another thread, and libs seem afraid to answer it.

What, specifically, did the Republicans want that the Democrats compromised on?

Did you listen to Harry Reid this morning? This is all about 310 million going to planned parenthood.

He was actually on there talking about women's cancer screening's--colesteral tests etc. that he claims that 5 million women go to each year.

Well--I don't go to planned parenthood for my physicals and tests--I go to my doctors office. And I really don't believe that 'planned parenthood' keeps the equipment around to do mamogram screening or cancer screening for women.

HERE'S THE MATH Harry Reid claims that 5 million women in this country go to Planned Parenthood and the taxpayers of this country are funding it a 310 million per year. That means that we are spending 6.2 million per woman who goes to Planned parenthood.

310,000,000 funding for Planned parenthood divided by 5,000,000 patients = This is how the Federal Government spends your money.

[regfortruegoo]

Did you listen to Harry Reid this morning? This is all about 310 million going to planned parenthood.

He was actually on there talking about women's cancer screening's--colesteral tests etc. that he claims that 5 million women go to each year.

Well--I don't go to planned parenthood for my physicals and tests--I go to my doctors office. And I really don't believe that 'planned parenthood' keeps the equipment around to do mamogram screening or cancer screening for women.

HERE'S THE MATH Harry Reid claims that 5 million women in this country go to Planned Parenthood and the taxpayers of this country are funding it a 310 million per year. That means that we are spending 6.2 million per woman who goes to Planned parenthood.

310,000,000 funding for Planned parenthood divided by 5,000,000 patients = This is how the Federal Government spends your money.

Thanks so much for not answering my question.

Shouldn't you be packing?

[iOqedeyH]

Nope I have paid 20 to 30k per year in federal income tax.
I have never YET to pay less than 10k per year in Federal income taxes.

I think I can get more bang for my buck in another country. This country is ridiculous.

THE FACT IS: Our federal government couldn't operate a lemonade stand without driving it into bankruptsy.

I would only advise you to try to be calm and tough this latest round of human stupidity out. This has been more than 100 years in the works, it's just reality coming through like it always does, correcting us and the big ideas that we assemble on our oversized human egos. We'll get back to operating in reality again eventually, it might be tough to return, but we're quickly running out of "alternative" choices.


It's just part of the human condition. We never seem to remember that reality cannot be negotiated with, that we will operate within the rules of reality whether we like or want to or not. We're just being corrected again . . this is nothing new.

[Mynameishappy]

In other words, shut up and pay up. Your sort have gotten a free ride for nigh on two decades now. You used it to buy overpriced houses and oversized Hummers instead of managing well and saving for when economic sanity returned. Now it's time to pay the piper cause you'll still never get a better deal than you're getting right here.

And the vast majority of Americans couldn't give a flying fuck about the deficit. They're too busy figuring out how not to spend next year living under a bridge, like you want them to.

Excuse me? It's primarily those that bought the overpriced houses and oversized Hummers that are now paying the piper and looking into desireable sub-interstate properties.

True, ours is probably the best deal around, but that doesn't mean we should enjoy being raped just because we'd be gang-raped elsewhere. The government needs to be cut. Actually, more like gutted, but it should be done slowly to keep the resulting disruption from snowballing into chaos. A shutdown is perfectly in line with the seriousness of the matter, so if it happens, it happens.

[iOqedeyH]

Excuse me? It's primarily those that bought the overpriced houses and oversized Hummers that are now paying the piper and looking into desireable sub-interstate properties.

True, ours is probably the best deal around, but that doesn't mean we should enjoy being raped just because we'd be gang-raped elsewhere. The government needs to be cut. Actually, more like gutted, but it should be done slowly to keep the resulting disruption from snowballing into chaos. A shutdown is perfectly in line with the seriousness of the matter, so if it happens, it happens.

They need to shut down. They're obviously too stupid to figure out very simple things like staying within a budget etc.

These people running Americas "govt." all need to get the hell out of America . . . and my bank account . . .. and my kids future bank account ...and my grandkids future bank accounts.


Let these rotten stinking "govt." people go fight on the front lines of
some war and make themselves actually useful - cannon fodder

[Vapepreab]

Excuse me? It's primarily those that bought the overpriced houses and oversized Hummers that are now paying the piper and looking into desireable sub-interstate properties.

True, ours is probably the best deal around, but that doesn't mean we should enjoy being raped just because we'd be gang-raped elsewhere. The government needs to be cut. Actually, more like gutted, but it should be done slowly to keep the resulting disruption from snowballing into chaos. A shutdown is perfectly in line with the seriousness of the matter, so if it happens, it happens.

Yes, it does need to be gutted. What we really need are millions on the streets, raping and pillaging, burning, causing havoc. The National Guard is stretched thin, so we would have to bring those boys back home to maintain some sort of order.

The average guy struggling today doesn't care much about deficets. The political crowd who are entertained by politics do though. But they are outnumbered by average folks. If you ask one of the un employed or under employed, what is important, it sure as hell will not be the deficets. No, it will be more self oriented and personal. And if you cut out his food stamps due to offshoring, that will get his attention quickly. So shut down this gov't. And then accept the consequences of a long term shut down. I dare you, I double dog dare ya. I triple dog dare ya. I want it shut down, I really do. We need a fucking catalyst here, and the sooner, the better.

[iOqedeyH]

Yes, it does need to be gutted. What we really need are millions on the streets, raping and pillaging, burning, causing havoc. The National Guard is stretched thin, so we would have to bring those boys back home to maintain some sort of order.

The average guy struggling today doesn't care much about deficets. The political crowd who are entertained by politics do though. But they are outnumbered by average folks. If you ask one of the un employed or under employed, what is important, it sure as hell will not be the deficets. No, it will be more self oriented and personal. And if you cut out his food stamps due to offshoring, that will get his attention quickly. So shut down this gov't. And then accept the consequences of a long term shut down. I dare you, I double dog dare ya. I triple dog dare ya. I want it shut down, I really do. We need a fucking catalyst here, and the sooner, the better.

Yes, shut it down

What are you hoping the results of a catalyst are ? That's the question.

Are you hoping for people coming into the govt. with more than a room temperature IQ or are you looking for something else ?

[Lymneterfeiff]

I am DONE. I have been a small-business owner for the past 30+ years--and have employed at least 100 employees over that time. Busted my butt--and have risked everything own--and have paid on average 20 to 30k in federal income tax ALONE--and I am flat done.

Republicans who have no back-bone and can't stand up and say YES we're going to cut 61 BILLION out of a 3.7 TRILLION dollar deficit--when I have been doing it all my life.

I am going to take my knowledge and experience to another country that actually appreciates it.

I just can't take this crap any longer.

And where's that?

Where do you think that you're going to be better off?

[Percocetti]

Yes, it does need to be gutted. What we really need are millions on the streets, raping and pillaging, burning, causing havoc. The National Guard is stretched thin, so we would have to bring those boys back home to maintain some sort of order.

The average guy struggling today doesn't care much about deficets. The political crowd who are entertained by politics do though. But they are outnumbered by average folks. If you ask one of the un employed or under employed, what is important, it sure as hell will not be the deficets. No, it will be more self oriented and personal. And if you cut out his food stamps due to offshoring, that will get his attention quickly. So shut down this gov't. And then accept the consequences of a long term shut down. I dare you, I double dog dare ya. I triple dog dare ya. I want it shut down, I really do. We need a fucking catalyst here, and the sooner, the better.

Well they should care because if they think they have it hard now, wait until we start paying back our debt.

Hey Blue if you were asking me to shut it down, you would only have to ask once, nothing else would be necessary. I am one that is for cutting this fucking out of control spending. Of course you are not, you liberals just want to continue to borrow and spend as long as you don't have to pay for it.

[LindaSmithIV]

Did you listen to Harry Reid this morning? This is all about 310 million going to planned parenthood.

He was actually on there talking about women's cancer screening's--colesteral tests etc. that he claims that 5 million women go to each year.

Well--I don't go to planned parenthood for my physicals and tests--I go to my doctors office. And I really don't believe that 'planned parenthood' keeps the equipment around to do mamogram screening or cancer screening for women.

HERE'S THE MATH Harry Reid claims that 5 million women in this country go to Planned Parenthood and the taxpayers of this country are funding it a 310 million per year. That means that we are spending 6.2 million per woman who goes to Planned parenthood.

310,000,000 funding for Planned parenthood divided by 5,000,000 patients = This is how the Federal Government spends your money.

you don't really believe this shit do you? I'm talking the $$ and the amount of people a congressman claims it helps? PP has a huge amount of programs for woman & MEN who otherwise would not have any healthcare at all. GOP is bitching over the fact they might be funding abortions, when they're not, but they can't prove it other than the fact there are religious protesters around PP and the GOP is pressured to stop all funding.

Again, it is healthcare for the poor. So a crackhead prostitute gets pregnant, has aids, and PP is her only option because she doesn't have insurance. If someone raising a child at $10/hour and doesn't have insurance, they're limited to what they can afford. This is one one option.

But it goes beyond that. The GOP wants to cut federal funding to family planned, including Planned Parenthood. Low cost Birth Control for some.
PP has said only 3% of their total healthcare services go toward abortion.
They do receive about $363 million from Title X program and Medicaid. Title X was started by Richard Nixon in 1970.

To me, it is similar to prohibition of alcohol and the political pressure that led up to it. Once it passed, there was a complete black market of it. It's all political, and has nothing to do with the budget.

[BundEnhamma]

Did you listen to Harry Reid this morning? This is all about 310 million going to planned parenthood.

He was actually on there talking about women's cancer screening's--colesteral tests etc. that he claims that 5 million women go to each year.

Well--I don't go to planned parenthood for my physicals and tests--I go to my doctors office. And I really don't believe that 'planned parenthood' keeps the equipment around to do mamogram screening or cancer screening for women.

HERE'S THE MATH Harry Reid claims that 5 million women in this country go to Planned Parenthood and the taxpayers of this country are funding it a 310 million per year. That means that we are spending 6.2 million per woman who goes to Planned parenthood.

310,000,000 funding for Planned parenthood divided by 5,000,000 patients = This is how the Federal Government spends your money.

OMG you must have flunked every math class you were ever in. Having such a poor grasp of mathematics I can understand your outrage. But it should be with yourself for being so incapable of understanding basic math.

310,000,000 ÷ 5,000,000 = 62

So by your numbers the Federal Government funds visits to Planned Parenthood to the tune of $62 per visit. Your math is skills are embarrassing, and I hope that anyone from another country reading this thread understands that Oreo's comprehension of mathematics are not representative of most Americans.

Republican'ts holding the budget hostage over Title X of the Public Health Service Act, which accounts for .008% of the Federal Budget? Republicant's want to defund Federal funding for women's health services? Really? Why do Republican'ts hate women? Oh right they only hate women who get health care services from Federally funded health clinics.

If Boehner can't get enough Republican'ts to vote with the Demodon'ts and pass a budget for the rest of the year, we will all know why, and who is responsible, and 2012 will be a dead reckoning.

[Percocetti]

you don't really believe this shit do you? I'm talking the $$ and the amount of people a congressman claims it helps? PP has a huge amount of programs for woman & MEN who otherwise would not have any healthcare at all. GOP is bitching over the fact they might be funding abortions, when they're not, but they can't prove it other than the fact there are religious protesters around PP and the GOP is pressured to stop all funding.

Again, it is healthcare for the poor. So a crackhead prostitute gets pregnant, has aids, and PP is her only option because she doesn't have insurance. If someone raising a child at $10/hour and doesn't have insurance, they're limited to what they can afford. This is one one option.

But it goes beyond that. The GOP wants to cut federal funding to family planned, including Planned Parenthood. Low cost Birth Control for some.
PP has said only 3% of their total healthcare services go toward abortion.
They do receive about $363 million from Title X program and Medicaid. Title X was started by Richard Nixon in 1970.

To me, it is similar to prohibition of alcohol and the political pressure that led up to it. Once it passed, there was a complete black market of it. It's all political, and has nothing to do with the budget.

If your so into planned Parenthood then you can contribute but I don't want my tax dollars going there, nor do I want them going to Public Radio.

Planned Parenthood can live off of donors but not my tax dollars. Simple as that. Hell there are nonprofit organizations all over the US, food banks etc, it can get funded the say way or go out of business. States have state assistance, emergency rooms, Medicaid, etc. there is plenty of help out there and not funding PP is not the end of the world. And that is all they do is perform abortions not much of anything else.

[Percocetti]

OMG you must have flunked every math class you were ever in. Having such a poor grasp of mathematics I can understand your outrage. But it should be with yourself for being so incapable of understanding basic math.

310,000,000 ÷ 5,000,000 = 62

So by your numbers the Federal Government funds visits to Planned Parenthood to the tune of $62 per visit. Your math is skills are embarrassing, and I hope that anyone from another country reading this thread understands that Oreo's comprehension of mathematics are not representative of most Americans.

Republican'ts holding the budget hostage over Title X of the Public Health Service Act, which accounts for .008% of the Federal Budget? Republicant's want to defund Federal funding for women's health services? Really? Why do Republican'ts hate women? Oh right they only hate women who get health care services from Federally funded health clinics.

If Boehner can't get enough Republican'ts to vote with the Demodon'ts and pass a budget for the rest of the year, we will all know why, and who is responsible, and 2012 will be a dead reckoning.

I don't care what the number is, it should be "0". Nothing, Nada.

[VemyhemiHef]

I would recommend going to China. They will require to own part of your biz. And you must a share HOW you make what you do, so that when the time is right, they won't need you there to give the Chinese folks jobs. Course, you can move on to some other place. A small price to pay, IMO.

N.J. loses $70B in wealth during five years as residents depart | NJ.com

I wonder how many have already left the United States?

[Lymneterfeiff]

If your so into planned Parenthood then you can contribute but I don't want my tax dollars going there, nor do I want them going to Public Radio.

Planned Parenthood can live off of donors but not my tax dollars. Simple as that. Hell there are nonprofit organizations all over the US, food banks etc, it can get funded the say way or go out of business. States have state assistance, emergency rooms, Medicaid, etc. there is plenty of help out there and not funding PP is not the end of the world. And that is all they do is perform abortions not much of anything else.

Does reality hurt you? Is that why you avoid it?

Abortions are a remarkably small portion of the services that PP provides. This has been demonstrated multiple times. But, of course, you can't handle that truth, so you just ignore it and spout off your self-delusions anyway...

[VemyhemiHef]

Does reality hurt you? Is that why you avoid it?

Abortions are a remarkably small portion of the services that PP provides. This has been demonstrated multiple times. But, of course, you can't handle that truth, so you just ignore it and spout off your self-delusions anyway...

I don't think women really go to Planned Parenthood for blood colesteral or blood pressure tests--as Harry Reid claimed this morning. Nor do I believe that they have the equipment to do mamogram screening--which are typically done on older women--who are out of the age of giving birth.

So they're dealing with younger women--and as stated by the Senate minority leader in front of congress this morning--that 90% of their business is taxpayer funded abortions. In fact--a frantic--democrat female--basically admitted the same thing in her statement of this morning. "What are we going to do with all these pregnant poor women who want an abortion?"

Condoms--are really much cheaper.

[Lymneterfeiff]

I don't think women really go to Planned Parenthood for blood colesteral or blood pressure tests--as Harry Reid claimed this morning. Nor do I believe that they have the equipment to do mamogram screening--which are typically done on older women--who are out of the age of giving birth.

So they're dealing with younger women--and as stated by the Senate minority leader in front of congress this morning--that 90% of their business is taxpayer funded abortions. In fact--a frantic--democrat female--basically admitted the same thing in her statement of this morning. "What are we going to do with all these pregnant poor women who want an abortion?"

Condoms--are really much cheaper.

Well, shit, if YOU don't believe something (like believing in education, spelling, grammar, or mathematics) it clearly must not be reality.




Oh, and your Senate Minority Leader was LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH. They do that.

[BundEnhamma]

I don't care what the number is, it should be "0". Nothing, Nada.

Either you don't care what the number is or your do, which is it?

What have you got against women's health services? Are you a misogynist? Because it's looking like the GOP is the misogynist Party.

If you bring up abortion, then you're just plain ignorant, and shooting yourself in your own foot. Planned Parenthood prevents more abortions than it performs by a huge margin. And what's the best way to prevent abortions, aside from not having sex at all? Family planning, and birth control, that's what. And you don't see that as a valuable service?

So explain to me your objection to Title X.

[BundEnhamma]

I don't think women really go to Planned Parenthood for blood colesteral or blood pressure tests--as Harry Reid claimed this morning. Nor do I believe that they have the equipment to do mamogram screening--which are typically done on older women--who are out of the age of giving birth.

So they're dealing with younger women--and as stated by the Senate minority leader in front of congress this morning--that 90% of their business is taxpayer funded abortions. In fact--a frantic--democrat female--basically admitted the same thing in her statement of this morning. "What are we going to do with all these pregnant poor women who want an abortion?"

Condoms--are really much cheaper.

You're patent ignorance is dumbfounding.

Federal funds cannot be used for abortions, it's the law, and has been for twenty something years.

[VemyhemiHef]

OMG you must have flunked every math class you were ever in. Having such a poor grasp of mathematics I can understand your outrage. But it should be with yourself for being so incapable of understanding basic math.

310,000,000 ÷ 5,000,000 = 62

So by your numbers the Federal Government funds visits to Planned Parenthood to the tune of $62 per visit. Your math is skills are embarrassing, and I hope that anyone from another country reading this thread understands that Oreo's comprehension of mathematics are not representative of most Americans.

Republican'ts holding the budget hostage over Title X of the Public Health Service Act, which accounts for .008% of the Federal Budget? Republicant's want to defund Federal funding for women's health services? Really? Why do Republican'ts hate women? Oh right they only hate women who get health care services from Federally funded health clinics.

If Boehner can't get enough Republican'ts to vote with the Demodon'ts and pass a budget for the rest of the year, we will all know why, and who is responsible, and 2012 will be a dead reckoning.

Oh B.S Angry--you're the same guy (living in California) that wanted all other states to "chip" in on your California deficit which now stands at 48 BILLION
dollars. You wanted to TAKE from other states that are more responsible with their spending--make the cuts when they need to and balance their budgets--so your state could spend more.

310,000 million taxpayer dollars does not go for women to get blood colesteral and blood pressure tests or cancer screenings as Harry Reid claimed. Nor does Harry Reid's female family members go to Planned Parenthood for their health care. This is Planned Parenthood and it is for taxpayer funded abortions.