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Old 04-13-2011, 08:09 PM   #1
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Well shoot, with Beck gone, where will we go to find our true facts?

Oh wait, there's still "Fox and Friends!"

Pap Smears at Walgreens - The Colbert Report - 4/11/11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

"Exactly right." Get your pap smears at Walgreens! You heard it first on Fox [snicker] News! (I loved the "exactly right" part. Nice touch.)

Here's a great example of how people who watch Fox News or are otherwise captured by the right-wing misinformation bubble step all over themselves:

Republican Senator John Kyl said during a speech on the floor of the Senate that, "If you want an abortion, you go to Planned Parenthood, and that’s well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does."
And when confronted with the truth (in fact it's more like 3 percent of what PP does), he claimed his statement wasn't intended to be factual.

How's that for a defense? Wouldn't it be better to just admit he was another victim of the right wing misinformation machine? If you believe his defense (which I don't for a minute), then he actually knew better and intentionally stated eggregiously exaggerated information. Lied, in other words. Maybe if you watch Fox long enough you can no longer tell the difference.

People like Senator Kyl live in their conservative bubble where they listen to Fox "News" and little else, and then they go around saying things they just know has to be true, because gee, that's the kind of crap you hear or can infer from the Fox noise machine.

Sometimes living in that conservative misinformation bubble jumps up to bite you.
Yeah. The conservative mis-info bubble. Right.


In a news release, the Los Angeles-based group Live Action claimed that “opponents of defunding Planned Parenthood have argued in Congress and elsewhere that the organization provides many vital health care services other than abortion, such as mammograms. Most prominently, Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards recently appeared on The Joy Behar Show to oppose the Pence Amendment to end Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer subsidies, claiming, ‘If this bill ever becomes law, millions of women in this country are gonna lose their healthcare access — not to abortion services — to basic family planning, you know, mammograms.’”

The group said it secretly recorded telephone conversations between a Live Action actor posing as a woman seeking mammograms and Planned Parenthood employees at 30 clinics in 27 states in which the supposed patient was told the breast exams were not available.

“Every Planned Parenthood, without exception, tells her she will have to go elsewhere for a mammogram, and many clinics admit that no Planned Parenthood clinics provide this breast cancer screening procedure,” according to the group’s news release.

“ ‘We don’t provide those services whatsoever,’ admits a staffer at Planned Parenthood of Arizona. Planned Parenthood’s Comprehensive Health Center clinic in Overland Park, KS explains to the caller, ‘We actually don’t have a, um, mammogram machine, at our clinics,’ ” the news release said.

Planned Parenthood challenged on purported mammogram claim - The Washington Post
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Old 04-13-2011, 11:17 PM   #2
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Edit: Bearman, why are you talking as if the fact that Democrats were the conservatives of the 19th century is a shocker? Of course they wouldn't sign unless blacks and women weren't allowed to vote. Back then Democrats were CONSERVATIVE.

Conservatism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Historian Gregory Schneider identifies several constants in American conservatism: respect for tradition, support of republicanism, preservation of "the rule of law and the Christian religion", and a defense of "Western civilization from the challenges of modernist culture and totalitarian governments."[5] From the late 19th century onward, conservatives have been dedicated to preventing the rise and spread of socialism and communism[6][7]

Hmmm. Doesn't sound like any Democrat at any point in their history. And DEFINITELY not a secular/progressive/liberal. They have always been statists.
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Old 04-14-2011, 02:36 PM   #3
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From the Wikipedia link you provided

Historian Gregory Schneider identifies several constants in American conservatism: respect for tradition, support of republicanism, preservation of "the rule of law and the Christian religion", and a defense of "Western civilization from the challenges of modernist culture and totalitarian governments."[5] From the late 19th century onward, conservatives have been dedicated to preventing the rise and spread of socialism and communism[6][7]

Hmmm. Doesn't sound like any Democrat at any point in their history. And DEFINITELY not a secular/progressive/liberal. They have always been statists.
The Solid South, which was Democratic during Jim Crow, was the most socially conservative part of the country.

There is nothing progressive about supporting segregation. It was a holdover from slavery.
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:08 AM   #4
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It seems the conservative tide may have peaked
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:13 AM   #5
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Good to see him joining Olbermann off air.
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:23 AM   #6
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Glenn Beck's Fox Show Going Off Air | Featured Videos | Comcast.net

It seems the conservative tide may have peaked
The pendulum will always swing back and forth. FOX certainly isn't going anywhere...it makes loads of money. His removal was expected by predictions for a different reason....he was losing ratings but most importantly commercial sponsors who refused to run further ads in his show segment. It was a combination of moderate or liberal owners and/or employees who didn't want to support him with their money and/or they didn't like customer complaints and backlash for being seen supporting him. Funny, it remind me of this radio show segment of his: "Bullcrap capitalism doesn’t work"

Glenn Beck: Bullcrap capitalism doesn’t work – Glenn Beck

He was making his common attacks on liberals as 'socialists,' and yet they used their belief and usage of capitalism to remove him.
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:28 AM   #7
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Good to see him joining Olbermann off air.
He is likewise extremely partisan, but I think he was put out for a different reason...he's too difficult to work with. His ratings were very good IIRC for MSNBC. A person can be very talented or a money earner, but in the end, owners and employees value their work environment. Like marrying a rich and successful ***hole or bitch for a spouse, there's only so much one can take of their personality and antics where the money and other benefits just isn't worth it anymore and you'll crack and look to 'fire' them as quick as possible just so you can get some more peace and happiness in your life again. If someone is like that at work, they'll most likely find themselves out the door eventually just as quick once they've had enough of it no matter how they otherwise perform.
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:46 AM   #8
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The pendulum will always swing back and forth. FOX certainly isn't going anywhere...it makes loads of money. His removal was expected by predictions for a different reason....he was losing ratings but most importantly commercial sponsors who refused to run further ads in his show segment. It was a combination of moderate or liberal owners and/or employees who didn't want to support him with their money and/or they didn't like customer complaints and backlash for being seen supporting him. Funny, it remind me of this radio show segment of his: "Bullcrap capitalism doesn’t work"

Glenn Beck: Bullcrap capitalism doesn’t work – Glenn Beck

He was making his common attacks on liberals as 'socialists,' and yet they used their belief and usage of capitalism to remove him.
The guy who invented the anti-snoring nose clip had to license his product out to avoid bankruptcy. Too many people had first heard of it as a sponsor of Rush Limbaugh. Controversy, right or left, may get ratings but not sell product.
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:58 AM   #9
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Good to see him joining Olbermann off air.
Really think he's not going to be on FOX doing something else?
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Old 07-04-2011, 09:15 AM   #10
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Really think he's not going to be on FOX doing something else?
Oh, Fox is quite emphatic he will be "developing other projects"

This is exactly almost to the word what their networks said about Dan Rather and even Walter Cronkite...it's sorta code for we'll not see much of them, if at all, in the near future.

I have gone on record as saying this. Obama was attacked en masse for not turning around the economy from as little as a MONTH after he was elected. Well, the cons have had nearly half a year....where's all THEIR hope and change??
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:01 AM   #11
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Glenn Beck is simply nuts and all this apologetic baloney doesn't change that. His conspiratorial paranoid interpretation of life in America is so bizarre even my wife, a non-political person can't stand his dramatic acting over idiocy. But of course comedians will miss him and chalkboard prices will go down.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:22 AM   #12
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It's a strange turnaround for me. I liked him on CNN for quite awhile, and then I found he started getting a little more extreme. But then later at FOX it's like he got all televangelical about himself. He was a caricature of Harry Beale, the character from that movie Network.

I hope he chills out and collects himself and comes back to the middle again. Hopefully he was just playing a character and it was just a phase or something.
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:18 AM   #13
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He made interesting points in the "early days." However, recently he seemed to be believing his own rantings.
Too bad. With the "other projects" story Fox may be saying, "Here, take these crayons, sit over there and draw me a nice bunny rabbit."
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Old 07-04-2011, 12:51 PM   #14
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You can only cover the same material in the same format over and over so many times. He's been trying to shift to documentaries.
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:04 PM   #15
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It seems the conservative tide may have peaked
Based on what?

Beck tip-toed into religious land a little too much and is leaving when his contract is over.
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:05 PM   #16
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where's all THEIR hope and change??
Ask Harry Reid and the Democrat Caucus.
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:07 PM   #17
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You can only cover the same material in the same format over and over so many times.
Yup I tune in once a week or so to see what he's up to and it's the same damn show lately with very minor changes, pretty f'n boring for a daily commentary/editorial program.
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:20 PM   #18
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You can only cover the same material in the same format over and over so many times. He's been trying to shift to documentaries.
All the above far-leftists are cellibrating and drawing unproven conclusions, that meet their robotic agenda and talking points.

I firmly believe that the Left is on a downhill course, with unwillingness to adequately deal with huge deficit proplems, and a "leader",Obama, with no leadership abilities as evidenced by his budget proposals and lack thereof.
And Obama has just declared his 2012 campaign ambition to garner one billion dollars and opting out of public campaign financing. What timing?
In my mind, EVERYTHING he does is wrong.
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:30 PM   #19
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All the above far-leftists are cellibrating and drawing unproven conclusions, that meet their robotic agenda and talking points.

I firmly believe that the Left is on a downhill course, with unwillingness to adequately deal with huge deficit proplems, and a "leader",Obama, with no leadership abilities as evidenced by his budget proposals and lack thereof.
And Obama has just declared his 2012 campaign ambition to garner one billion dollars and opting out of public campaign financing. What timing?
In my mind, EVERYTHING he does is wrong.
And that has what to do with the topic of this particular thread?
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:35 PM   #20
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All the above far-leftists are cellibrating and drawing unproven conclusions, that meet their robotic agenda and talking points.

I firmly believe that the Left is on a downhill course, with unwillingness to adequately deal with huge deficit proplems, and a "leader",Obama, with no leadership abilities as evidenced by his budget proposals and lack thereof.
And Obama has just declared his 2012 campaign ambition to garner one billion dollars and opting out of public campaign financing. What timing?
In my mind, EVERYTHING he does is wrong.
Unwilling to deal with it? They are trying to cause it, in hopes taking control of the wreckage of their own creation..
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