[jerzeygymwolf]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/09/us...l.html?_r=1&hp

A deal to fund the gov't until next Thursday was reached, in which time both the House and Senate will pass and President Obama will sign next week the single-largest dollar cut in US history at an estimated $38 billion for the remainder of this fiscal year.

Throw in the other $10 billion in cuts from the already-passed House extensions from recent weeks and it adds up to nearly 80% of the pro-rated figure that House Republicans had sought at the beginning of their two-year term three months ago.

[Acalsenunse]

nice job republicans

[Cofeeman]

Dont know why the Tea party is angry, its the largest cut in history on a budget year the Republicans werent even supposed to have control over. Its like the Republicans won power in 2009 instead of 2010. The Dems just gave them a huge gift by not passing a budget.

The new, lower baselines means savings of almost $500 billion over the next ten years, or 5% of the forecast deficit. Not a terrible down payment.

Now comes the real battle, but with a longer time to make a deal. Time to negotiate over the Ryan plan.

[jerzeygymwolf]

Republicans finally gave up on their attack on Planned Parenthood and the EPA, among other things, since the public supports these services with an overwhelming majority of support that would hurt John Boehner and his party had they decided to hold up gov't over culture wars that no one in the country asked to be fought.

Like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Florida and elsewhere, independent voters have woken up earlier than usual because of the overreaching by Republicans and the clear bait-and-switch feeling that people in the suburbs, particularly women, are feeling when they voted for the Tea Party to help get the budget in order.

An overwhelming majority of Americans want to see the Bush tax cuts repealed on the top 2%, and they want to see the loopholes closed that give huge windfall profits to multinational corporations, as well as corporate subsidies. They don't want Medicare and Social Security cut, but they do want the wars to finally end and for defense spending to be cut.

Of course, none of those things have occurred in John Boehner's House, where the gov't nearly shut down because the country awoke to the fact that many in the Tea Party are the same old social conservative extremists of the past only with a new name.

To date, the President's proposed $78 billion in defense cuts over 5 years have not been taken up by House Republicans, who in this budget will actually increase defense spending even more.

The President has also proposed eliminating significantly the amount of corporate subsidies to multinationals that don't need them, but of course those aren't even being talked about by Republicans either, since it would mean less wholesale distribution of wealth from the bottom to the top, where their benefactors sit on their fat asses having not sacrificed anything in a budget that targets mainly the working poor and lower middle-class.

The debt is at something like $14 trillion, and all the Tea Party could do was attack poor people, women, and seniors and cut some of the garnish on a dinner plate where a heaping pile of chicken, mashed potatoes and mac and cheese are.

Americans still haven't seen any of the results they were looking for, making this continuing resolution a totally inept and pathetic attempt by the US gov't to actually address real budget issues. And why is that? Easy, Republicans don't want to have anything to do with cuts in defense or repealing tax breaks on their wealthy friends, while Democrats lack the numbers and the spine to fight for what everyone knows should happen.

This is yet another big issue where Republicans fight to win as they always do, while Democrats come out to make a compromise, and in the end the Republicans get just over three-quarters of everything they wanted while Democrats cling to having been able to say they saved this program and that program.

Fucking pathetic.

[Cofeeman]

Actually, the Ryan budget accepts the administrations defense cuts. And the President has never proposed cutting spending subsidies, only tax credits, and only for SOME corporations, rather than just eliminating the credits in question entirely. Its discriminatory and obviously unacceptable for oil companies to be denied credits that Obamas friends in the coal industry get.

[KojlinMakolvin]

Republicans finally gave up on their attack on Planned Parenthood and the EPA, among other things, since the public supports these services with an overwhelming majority of support that would hurt John Boehner and his party had they decided to hold up gov't over culture wars that no one in the country asked to be fought.

Like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Florida and elsewhere, independent voters have woken up earlier than usual because of the overreaching by Republicans and the clear bait-and-switch feeling that people in the suburbs, particularly women, are feeling when they voted for the Tea Party to help get the budget in order.

An overwhelming majority of Americans want to see the Bush tax cuts repealed on the top 2%, and they want to see the loopholes closed that give huge windfall profits to multinational corporations, as well as corporate subsidies. They don't want Medicare and Social Security cut, but they do want the wars to finally end and for defense spending to be cut.

Of course, none of those things have occurred in John Boehner's House, where the gov't nearly shut down because the country awoke to the fact that many in the Tea Party are the same old social conservative extremists of the past only with a new name.

To date, the President's proposed $78 billion in defense cuts over 5 years have not been taken up by House Republicans, who in this budget will actually increase defense spending even more.

The President has also proposed eliminating significantly the amount of corporate subsidies to multinationals that don't need them, but of course those aren't even being talked about by Republicans either, since it would mean less wholesale distribution of wealth from the bottom to the top, where their benefactors sit on their fat asses having not sacrificed anything in a budget that targets mainly the working poor and lower middle-class.

The debt is at something like $14 trillion, and all the Tea Party could do was attack poor people, women, and seniors and cut some of the garnish on a dinner plate where a heaping pile of chicken, mashed potatoes and mac and cheese are.

Americans still haven't seen any of the results they were looking for, making this continuing resolution a totally inept and pathetic attempt by the US gov't to actually address real budget issues. And why is that? Easy, Republicans don't want to have anything to do with cuts in defense or repealing tax breaks on their wealthy friends, while Democrats lack the numbers and the spine to fight for what everyone knows should happen.

This is yet another big issue where Republicans fight to win as they always do, while Democrats come out to make a compromise, and in the end the Republicans get just over three-quarters of everything they wanted while Democrats cling to having been able to say they saved this program and that program.

Fucking pathetic.

this post is nothing but bs no facts.
all it does is repeat the talking points of reid and pelosi but they are not factual.
facts are that most americans want to see things like npr and planned parenthood done away with.
most americans know that the teachers unions are leaches and should be done away with or at lest radicaly changed.. the only people that disagree are liberals and the union members and the reason they disagree is they belive that union members are special and should get everything for nothing.
liberals love npr becuse it s a gov subsizided liberal mouthpiece where they fire you if you are not a radical liberal.

[Ilaubuas]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/09/us...l.html?_r=1&hp

A deal to fund the gov't until next Thursday was reached, in which time both the House and Senate will pass and President Obama will sign next week the single-largest dollar cut in US history at an estimated $38 billion for the remainder of this fiscal year.

Throw in the other $10 billion in cuts from the already-passed House extensions from recent weeks and it adds up to nearly 80% of the pro-rated figure that House Republicans had sought at the beginning of their two-year term three months ago.

Maybe some business owners will see this as an incentive to keep some plants open in America a bit longer.

[Ilaubuas]

Republicans finally gave up on their attack on Planned Parenthood and the EPA, among other things, since the public supports these services with an overwhelming majority of support that would hurt John Boehner and his party had they decided to hold up gov't over culture wars that no one in the country asked to be fought.

Like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Florida and elsewhere, independent voters have woken up earlier than usual because of the overreaching by Republicans and the clear bait-and-switch feeling that people in the suburbs, particularly women, are feeling when they voted for the Tea Party to help get the budget in order.

An overwhelming majority of Americans want to see the Bush tax cuts repealed on the top 2%, and they want to see the loopholes closed that give huge windfall profits to multinational corporations, as well as corporate subsidies. They don't want Medicare and Social Security cut, but they do want the wars to finally end and for defense spending to be cut.

Of course, none of those things have occurred in John Boehner's House, where the gov't nearly shut down because the country awoke to the fact that many in the Tea Party are the same old social conservative extremists of the past only with a new name.

To date, the President's proposed $78 billion in defense cuts over 5 years have not been taken up by House Republicans, who in this budget will actually increase defense spending even more.

The President has also proposed eliminating significantly the amount of corporate subsidies to multinationals that don't need them, but of course those aren't even being talked about by Republicans either, since it would mean less wholesale distribution of wealth from the bottom to the top, where their benefactors sit on their fat asses having not sacrificed anything in a budget that targets mainly the working poor and lower middle-class.

The debt is at something like $14 trillion, and all the Tea Party could do was attack poor people, women, and seniors and cut some of the garnish on a dinner plate where a heaping pile of chicken, mashed potatoes and mac and cheese are.

Americans still haven't seen any of the results they were looking for, making this continuing resolution a totally inept and pathetic attempt by the US gov't to actually address real budget issues. And why is that? Easy, Republicans don't want to have anything to do with cuts in defense or repealing tax breaks on their wealthy friends, while Democrats lack the numbers and the spine to fight for what everyone knows should happen.

This is yet another big issue where Republicans fight to win as they always do, while Democrats come out to make a compromise, and in the end the Republicans get just over three-quarters of everything they wanted while Democrats cling to having been able to say they saved this program and that program.

Fucking pathetic.

Please tell us your not standing on a soap box.

[Percocetti]

Dont know why the Tea party is angry, its the largest cut in history on a budget year the Republicans werent even supposed to have control over. Its like the Republicans won power in 2009 instead of 2010. The Dems just gave them a huge gift by not passing a budget.

The new, lower baselines means savings of almost $500 billion over the next ten years, or 5% of the forecast deficit. Not a terrible down payment.

Now comes the real battle, but with a longer time to make a deal. Time to negotiate over the Ryan plan.

Let me answer that for you, even with this minuscule cut Obama is going to raise our national debt by 1.5 trillion by the end of this year. Now do you get it.

As for the "real battle", yes it is, only because the Dem's are all about spending and adding to our national debt. By 2012 Obama will have increased our national debt by over 6 trillion in just 4 yrs. Yeah the Dem's are all about borrow and spend entitlements. Obama even threw in the trash his own debt commission's report on how to cut spending. Obama's answer to cutting spending is a freeze on discretionary spending.

Obama the worst president ever.

[WaydayTew]

Dont know why the Tea party is angry, its the largest cut in history on a budget year the Republicans werent even supposed to have control over. Its like the Republicans won power in 2009 instead of 2010. The Dems just gave them a huge gift by not passing a budget.

The new, lower baselines means savings of almost $500 billion over the next ten years, or 5% of the forecast deficit. Not a terrible down payment.

Now comes the real battle, but with a longer time to make a deal. Time to negotiate over the Ryan plan.

Because we still have a trillion+ to cut. How can we call this a win, when its effectively APPROVES 1 trillion in more debt, and funding of any number of unnecesary programs and pet projects? Its a win for the 2 parties who now get to punt the problem down the road a bit. Its not a win for the tea party or the country.

[regfortruegoo]

I don't know how accurate this analogy is, but I heard someone say that cutting $38 billion is like:

A family makes $44,000 a year.
They spend $70,000 a year.
They just decided not to spend $900.

[emexiagog]

Please tell us your not standing on a soap box.

He has them built into his shoes.

The CR may be a done deal, but we will be back doing the same thing next week.

The line has to be drawn somewhere.

[Erossycuc]

To date, the President's proposed $78 billion in defense cuts over 5 years have not been taken up by House Republicans, who in this budget will actually increase defense spending even more.

Aren't we in a third war? How's that work with decreased defense spending?

[emexiagog]

Aren't we in a third war? How's that work with decreased defense spending?

It means that our soldiers will have to crap standing up, because we are not getting any more of those $1000 toilet seats.

[refsherne]

facts are that most americans want to see things like npr and planned parenthood done away with.

Got any references to support your assertions?

The facts are that most (81%) American want to see a millionaires tax.

[Roferurse]

$38 Billion... that is all we could get accomplished in spending cuts? Truly sad.

[Vapepreab]

I just can't see any significant cuts ever being done. If the Repubs manage to eventually deeply cut SS and the rest of the safety nets, they are finished, suicide. The millions who rely upon those could care less about deficets as the cons don't ask the rich to suffer along with them. And that is the real 500 pound gorilla lurking in the corner. Piss him off and see the results.

[Darlmtgq]

The facts are that most (81%) American want to see a millionaires tax.

81% of Americans want someone else to make the sacrifices instead of them? Gee, who saw that coming....

[Cd9JfGHR]

IMO this dog and pony show accomplished absolutely "dip diddle squat"
Maybe I'm the wrong person to be complaining; I'm on Social Security, Medicare Part B, and retired military, so the majority of my income and services are from the government. With that said, I still think we need major reform in welfare, social security, medicare, medicaid, tax code, subsidies, and numerous other programs that are redundant and benefit only a small number of people.
If there was this much hand wringing and sobbing from the Democratic party over this minor amount of cuts, what is going to happen when the Republican's present their 2012 budget.
I'm not intelligent or knowledgeable enough to have all the answers to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid but I do know that something has to be done. I can not see everyone receiving benefits, there has to be a income cap where those benefits are reduced or eliminated. I realize that the unemployed need assistance; However, there are too many that will draw unemployment vice taking a job that pays at or just above the benefits. I am tired of seeing welfare paying for big screen TV's, booze, drugs, and other non-essential goods and services. Illegal immigrants receiving monetary benefits and I will include allowing children of illegal immigrants having citizenship granted just because they were born here.
I have had it with the give-away, nanny state espousing voices especially politicians. While I'm venting; If you are not doing your job or there is a lay-off seniority/tenure should not be a factory in who loses their job.

[phpfoxmods]

$38 Billion... that is all we could get accomplished in spending cuts? Truly sad.

America is a sinking ship and the dems and reps are trying to steal as much as they can before bailing out. That's why we didn't see any real cuts.