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This is so simple and yet, awesome. This prez just keeps on acting more like a "community organizer" than presidential.
Obama Gets a Smackdown from Gov. Walker - Gov. Scott Walker - Fox Nation |
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PolitiFact | The Obameter: Restore collective bargaining rights to federal employees - Obama promise No. 499:
In a letter sent during the campaign to American Federation of Government Employees president John Gage, Barack Obama declared: "I support collective bargaining rights for all workers. As president, I will review decisions by the Bush administration that have denied these rights to federal employees and seek to restore them." The letter was one of several Obama wrote while courting federal employees' votes during the campaign. Under the 1978 Civil Service Reform Act, all federal employees have the right to bargain collectively, but the president has the power to restrict those rights for employees working in the intelligence or national security fields. We found three major Bush administration moves restricting the ability of federal employees to unionize: the 2004 birth of the National Security Personnel System, a new set of federal pay rules; a prohibition against collective bargaining for Transportation Security Administration workers; and an executive order from last November - after Obama had written the letter to Gage - that eliminated a union representing staffers of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. The Bush administration's creation of the National Security Personnel System created a new set of rules regarding promotions, pay raises and other issues for civilian Defense Department employees. Unions claimed this system imposed major restrictions on these workers' collective bargaining rights, and pushed for it to be abolished. The fiscal 2010 defense authorization bill, which Obama signed in October, repeals it . As for Bush's executive order, it eliminated the collective bargaining rights for 1,500 ATF employees who have been unionized for decades . Obama could theoretically overturn it unilaterally with an executive order of his own, but we can't find any record of him attempting to do so. So far in Obama's term, the biggest controversy about federal employee unions in Washington has focused on the Transporation Security Administration and the potential unionization of thousands of airport screeners nationwide. The November 2001 legislation creating the TSA enabled the organization's administrator to grant TSA employees collective bargaining rights, but none of the Bush-appointed administrators did so. In another letter , Obama pledged to change that. But there's been no action so far. In October, Obama nominated Erroll Southers, a former assistant chief of the Los Angeles Airport Police, FBI agent and California homeland security official, to fill the administrator post. At his confirmation hearing, Southers was elusive. He told the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee that, if confirmed, he would take "an opportunity to meet with stakeholders and meet with employees, a cross-section of the organization, to see how [collective bargaining] is going to impact them. We would want to be able to protect employees, but our mission is, of course, security. In my discussions with staff and the secretary, I made it clear that I'd like to review this matter with the understanding that I would not compromise the security mission." Even if Southers hasn't taken a firm position yet, both union leaders and anti-labor Republicans are working under the assumption he would grant collective bargaining rights to workers. "The attempted terror attack in Detroit is a perfect example of why the Obama administration should not unionize the TSA and allow our airline-security decisions to be dictated by union bosses," Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., who has placed a hold on Southers' nomination, told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review , demanding Southers make his stance on unionization clear. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has promised a vote on Southers' nomination when Congress reconvenes later this month. So of the three areas where Obama had to reverse Bush's actions on collective bargaining, one is completed, no progress has been made on a second, and the third seems to be on a fast track to an unclear resolution. That makes the overall picture about federal workers' collective bargaining rights under the Obama administration a little murky. But it's enough for us to rate this promise In The Works. While Obama is in a hypocritical position, it's mostly because of things put forth by Bush. |
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This is so simple and yet, awesome. This prez just keeps on acting more like a "community organizer" than presidential. |
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This thread is skewed.
The actual narrative is that other than Bernie Madoff, Scott Walker is the loneliest man in America at the moment, it seems. The pressure is on Republicans in the legislature to vote against the bill. The Democrats need 3 of them to go their way. In the house legislature one key moderate Republican has gone against the Governor, and it is expected that the state senator who represents the same district is a good bet to defect too.The police are on the side of the protesters. Democrats and Independents are more than two-thirds in support of the protesters while a whopping 40% of Republicans think that the workers have the right to keep their collective bargaining. The Dem 14 are in the President's home state, so if Walker thinks he's going to get them than he's pretty delusional at this point. Walker and the Republicans were counting on voter apathy, but they've been witnessing just the opposite as the crowds grew even larger over the weekend, breaking 100,000 for the first time. The protesters insist they are from Wisconsin and they find it insulting that Walker would accuse them of being out-of-state astroturfers. This is shaping up to be a huge Walker fail. All of the Governors he mentioned on the phone with "David Koch" have come out for collective bargaining. But have your little fairy tale where the heroic Governor smacks down the President. |
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Middle class union thugs should get real, the sooner they realize they belong in the scrap-book of history the better off we will all be. Keep in mind the entire recession was begun by the housing crises, which in turn was soley caused by ordinary folks getting too greedy and living beyond their means. Things like home ownership, a higher education, access to good health care should be the the reward of hard work, perseverence, and decent parents/proper background. These things never were intended to be bestowed upon the average person who simply earns a wage working for someone else.
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when you lead by polls you will fail... When you lead by conviction life works out usually.
Bush did not lead by polls he won election twice.. Obama leads by polls and he will not win in 2012. The only anomaly I see in this is Clinton, as he led by polls and agreed with the Republicans enacting many of the idea, and called them his own. |
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48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions
48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions - Rasmussen Reports |
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48% Back GOP Governor in Wisconsin Spat, 38% Side With Unions |
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Middle class union thugs should get real, the sooner they realize they belong in the scrap-book of history the better off we will all be. Keep in mind the entire recession was begun by the housing crises, which in turn was soley caused by ordinary folks getting too greedy and living beyond their means. Things like home ownership, a higher education, access to good health care should be the the reward of hard work, perseverence, and decent parents/proper background. These things never were intended to be bestowed upon the average person who simply earns a wage working for someone else. Oh, bankers never use to loan money to folks that could not provide a source of income. The bankers use to be real careful about whom they loaned large sums of money to. In fact, it was the bankers job to say who could afford it or not. Hell, when I was young, I was turned down a loan as they wanted to make sure I could pay it back, before they loaned me the money. But IF, you can make a loan, than sell it off, to be bundled with other like loans, sooner or later it's gonna come crashing down. NOW, if you take out an insurance on a loan you no longer own, which you knew was gonna go bad when the adustable interest rate went up, well, that seems rather criminal to me. While banks were pressured to make sub prime loans, a loan officer could simply refuse to loan, and probably would have if he had to hold that loan in his own bank. If not for the deregulations, this would not have happened in the degree that it did. But deregs enrich the financiers, as new tools for profits come online, designed to enrich no one, but the financiers. But blame it on the poor folks, but do so dishonestly. |
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Rasmussen polls aren`t meant to be taken seriously. Rasmussen Poll on Wisconsin Dispute May Be Biased - NYTimes.com New York Times Sees Bias Everywhere But Own News Pages |
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You really do need to read some of the new books, written by Wall St insiders as to the cause of this crisis. But hey, if you will not believe these financial folks who saw this coming, well, your loss. |
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when you lead by polls you will fail... When you lead by conviction life works out usually. |
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Not really a "smack down" but more of a political "stay out of it" response. While I may side with Walker in this over Obama I just view it as political grandstanding at best on the part of Walker (and to be honest Obama in his comments getting this response.)
"Furthermore, I'm sure the President knows that we have repeatedly praised the more than 300,000 government workers who come to work every day in Wisconsin. I am sure this part is being real warmly accepted right now (best sarcasm I have on this.) |
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NY TIMES Articles are not meant to be taken seriously. |
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This thread is skewed. The actual narrative is that other than Bernie Madoff, Scott Walker is the loneliest man in America at the moment, it seems. This is shaping up to be a huge Walker fail. All of the Governors he mentioned on the phone with "David Koch" have come out for collective bargaining. You wish But have your little fairy tale where the heroic Governor smacks down the President. This you did not wish for |
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BANKS SUCK, UNIONS SUCK.. neither care about the working people. |
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