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Old 07-16-2010, 02:04 AM   #1
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...070403988.html

Democrats hope Obama 2008 model will help stem midterm losses

By Chris Cillizza

Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, July 5, 2010

To become the nation's first black president, Barack Obama not only won heavy percentages of the black and Hispanic vote but also managed to trim the Democratic Party's traditional deficit among white voters.

Four years after Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) lost the white vote by 17 percentage points, Obama lost it by 12, according to exit polls. While the 2008 gains were generally attributed to Obama's strength with young voters -- he won by 10 points among whites 18 to 29 years old -- he managed to improve on Kerry's showing with white voters across every age demographic.

Fast-forward to today. With the November midterm elections less than four months away, Obama's standing among white voters has sunk -- leading some party strategists to fret that the president's erosion -- and the party's -- could adversely affect Democrats' chances of holding on to their House and Senate majorities.

"Since in the past House elections white voters tended to represent the independent vote, [the midterms] will surely be devastating for Democrats running in an election that will be a referendum on the Obama agenda," predicted one senior Democratic operative who closely tracks House races.

In Washington Post-ABC polling, Obama's approval rating among white voters has dropped from better than 60 percent to just above 40 percent. In a June poll, 46 percent of white voters under age 40 approved of how Obama was doing, compared with just 39 percent of whites 65 and older.

The latest NBC-Wall Street Journal poll reveals that Obama's standing among white voters is remarkably similar to that of President George W. Bush at this same time two years ago.
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Old 07-16-2010, 08:32 PM   #2
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WP: White voters are leaving Obama I wasn't aware Pres. Obama was running for any office this year. Did I miss something?
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Old 07-17-2010, 01:47 AM   #3
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I missed that too. I've been working really hard and haven't been paying much attention to the news, but I would hope I'd at least know that much.
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:27 PM   #4
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Regis apparently just underlining and Bolding the salient points in an article is not enough for the likes of LesterX and DES. It needs to be more obvious perhaps using color and changing font size will do the trick. I'll do it this time but in the future that will be up to you.

[the midterms] will surely be devastating for Democrats running in an election that will be a referendum on the Obama agenda,"
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Old 07-17-2010, 11:30 PM   #5
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That said there sure does seem to be a massive difference in the support for the President beween White Democrats and Black Democrats. Any one care to speculate on the reason for this?
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Old 07-18-2010, 01:51 AM   #6
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Regis apparently just underlining and Bolding the salient points in an article is not enough for the likes of LesterX and DES. It needs to be more obvious perhaps using color and changing font size will do the trick. I'll do it this time but in the future that will be up to you.
Apparently you missed the fact that DES quoted and commented on the title of Regis' post. Did she need to change fonts and add colors to make that obvious to you?
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:30 AM   #7
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So what, voters are leaving the President, the title of Regis' thread said nothing about the 2010 election now did it? She only got that from from the article, which by all appearances she (and you). failed to comprehend. All this to avoid talking about the race based schism with-in the Democratic Party. Sigh.
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Old 07-18-2010, 02:58 AM   #8
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Sorry, you're going to have play your games solo unless you can find another opponent. You're not going to bait me into either an ongoing semantics debate with you nor a discussion of race that just gives you a platform to go on one of your same old diatribes. I'm sure you can find lots of like-minded people at Free Republic who will join you in lording your superiority over the lower species of liberals.
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Old 07-18-2010, 03:14 AM   #9
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That said there sure does seem to be a massive difference in the support for the President beween White Democrats and Black Democrats. Any one care to speculate on the reason for this?
Did you even read the article? Obviously not, because it speculated on a few reasons, which you've conveniently ignored. You're also misinterpreting the article, because it says nothing about white Democrats. It talks about white voters in general, which could be (more than likely) Republican, Democrat, independent or whatever else. It also does not compare white voters who voted for Obama in the election with their feelings now; many of them didn't vote for him to begin with, so why would that change now?

But alright, if you insist on being obtuse, out of some misguided spirit of debate I'll throw you a bone. Could it have anything to do with the particular media sources these groups are more likely to consume? Could it be that this has less to do with the "Democratic party" and more to do with regional variation, which the article also doesn't analyze? You're also taking for granted that the president's approval ratings haven't fallen equally with black voters, which the article does not say; it only mentions white voters. Maybe there really is no "massive difference" and you're mistaken in your assumption?

More likely, in my opinion, thick-skulled morons who shouldn't even have access to the internet, like you, run around making incendiary statements because you want to have some "deep" discussion about race relations when in fact you're trying to justify your own racist subconscious.

Still have me on ignore? Good.
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Old 07-18-2010, 03:46 AM   #10
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Sorry, you're going to have play your games solo unless you can find another opponent. You're not going to bait me into either an ongoing semantics debate with you nor a discussion of race that just gives you a platform to go on one of your same old diatribes. I'm sure you can find lots of like-minded people who will join you in lording your superiority over the lower species of liberals at Free Republic.
Right so it is Okay for you to attempt to play games (a failed attempt to mock a thread title) typical liberal hypocrite, when challenged, can't defend oneself against even token criticism. And of course you don't want to discuss the race based divisions which will eventually destroy the Democratic party, because then you would have to admit your deeply held racist beliefs manifested by your paternalistic view(s) of the black race. Much like the idiots we see in this infamous picture by Will Counts, only nicer.
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Old 07-18-2010, 04:13 AM   #11
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Incident, you're the one who keeps harping on "racial divisions" and you have the nerve to post **** like this? Take your racist trolling elsewhere please.
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Old 07-18-2010, 12:56 PM   #12
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Regis apparently just underlining and Bolding the salient points in an article is not enough for the likes of LesterX and DES. It needs to be more obvious perhaps using color and changing font size will do the trick. I'll do it this time but in the future that will be up to you.
I was mocking Regis's annoying habit of writing (or more likely in this case, copying) headlines to suit an agenda. Whether or not the midterms will "surely be devastating" remains to be seen. It ain't over until it's over. Talk to me in November.



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Old 07-18-2010, 02:29 PM   #13
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Right so it is Okay for you to attempt to play games (a failed attempt to mock a thread title) typical liberal hypocrite, when challenged, can't defend oneself against even token criticism. And of course you don't want to discuss the race based divisions which will eventually destroy the Democratic party, because then you would have to admit your deeply held racist beliefs manifested by your paternalistic view(s) of the black race. Much like the idiots we see in this infamous picture by Will Counts, only nicer.
I'm perfectly capable of defending myself, so let me clarify something for you in case you're too dense to get it: I do not have one ounce of respect for you or your opinions, therefore I do not feel compelled to defend myself against the crap that you spew. Attempting to bait me into discussion by posting that picture and comparing me to those people is truly pathetic and not the least bit surprising coming from the likes of you.
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Old 07-18-2010, 10:03 PM   #14
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Thanks for pointing this out guys. I didn't know I was leaving Obama. Oh, wait, at this point, I'm not. And unless somebody else comes out of nowhere and knocks me off my feet, I'm not going to. Obama's done well in my book, considering all he was left to clean up, he's done his best there and still has found time to address health care and homosexual issues.
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Old 07-18-2010, 11:56 PM   #15
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Agreed, Dave. And in the face of all that he has had to do in 18 months, I've yet to hear one, just ONE, viable proposal from the other side of the aisle. As long as they stop every initiative he or his staff proposes, they're happy as pigs in slop and think they're accomplishing something positive.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:13 AM   #16
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I was mocking Regis's annoying habit of writing (or more likely in this case, copying) headlines to suit an agenda. Whether or not the midterms will "surely be devastating" remains to be seen. It ain't over until it's over. Talk to me in November.
Really, you are serious? Regis presents an article, quite reasonably titles a thread about the article. White Democrats are abandoning Obama. Of course, he presents articles that he is interested in (or fit his intellectual agenda) but so do you Libs. Or -- do you actually believe that Libs don't do the same thing? That would be truly snort-worthy. No actually it is far more likely that your reaction to Regis is because his agenda doesn't fit in with your agenda. And rather than speculate on why that is, you attack Regis rather than defend your beliefs that the articles expose. In this case why there is gigantic race based divide now present in the Democratic party.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:26 AM   #17
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I'm perfectly capable of defending myself, so let me clarify something for you in case you're too dense to get it: I do not have one ounce of respect for you or your opinions, therefore I do not feel compelled to defend myself against the crap that you spew. Attempting to bait me into discussion by posting that picture and comparing me to those people is truly pathetic and not the least bit surprising coming from the likes of you.
Er, that is not actually a defense. I am positive that the ranting woman in the picture probably did not have one ounce of respect for the people or the opinions of those that pointed out her obnoxious racist views. What I do know is that the woman/girl depicted in the picture probably believed that her form of racism was the righteous truth probably didn't believe she was a racist at all. In that way your brand of racism is no different than hers. Someday (I hope) you will wake up and probably feel ashamed of the way you have treated blacks.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:34 AM   #18
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Thanks for pointing this out guys. I didn't know I was leaving Obama. Oh, wait, at this point, I'm not. And unless somebody else comes out of nowhere and knocks me off my feet, I'm not going to. Obama's done well in my book, considering all he was left to clean up, he's done his best there and still has found time to address health care and homosexual issues.
Really, Davey I don't think Regis said or implied anywhere that every white person was leaving Obama? Right? I am sure that there are many white moonbats that believe, contrary to all evidence, that Obama is doing well? >Snort<
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:45 AM   #19
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Agreed, Dave. And in the face of all that he has had to do in 18 months, I've yet to hear one, just ONE, viable proposal from the other side of the aisle. As long as they stop every initiative he or his staff proposes, they're happy as pigs in slop and think they're accomplishing something positive.
Most likely that is because you don't listen and almost certainly don't comprehend any proposal that comes from anything to the right of our socialist fascist leader.

For those of you who can still look outside the narrow bounds of the liberal closed mind. Check out proposals by Congressman Paul Ryan.

http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/

One of the things that is sickening me about the Liberal Leaders is lies like this: that the Republicans have no alternative plans. I don't no what's worse the Lib leaders that start these lies or those sock puppet lib followers that in ignorance blindly repeat them.
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Old 07-19-2010, 05:32 AM   #20
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Er, that is not actually a defense. I am positive that the ranting woman in the picture probably did not have one ounce of respect for the people or the opinions of those that pointed out her obnoxious racist views. What I do know is that the woman/girl depicted in the picture probably believed that her form of racism was the righteous truth probably didn't believe she was a racist at all. In that way your brand of racism is no different than hers. Someday (I hope) you will wake up and probably feel ashamed of the way you have treated blacks.
Er, what part of "I don't feel compelled to defend myself" wasn't clear to you? Of course it wasn't a defense. I wasn't defending myself. You get more pathetic with each post, which I actually didn't think was possible.
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