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Old 07-19-2012, 02:18 PM   #21
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But tackling government does not address human nature, in it's entirety. There is existence beyond governance. Matters beyond it's purview.

There's no perfect society.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:19 PM   #22
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GOVERNMENT IS A TOOL OF GREAT POWER AND

NARROWLY LIMITED USEFULNESS.


IT REQUIRES CLOSE MANAGEMENT.... LIKE FIRE.

IT CANNOT BE GIVEN ITS HEAD.... EVER.

AND IT CANNOT BE SUFFERED TO ACT OUTSIDE

OF CLOSE SUPERVISION AND CONSTANT, RIGID RESTRAINT.


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Old 07-19-2012, 02:20 PM   #23
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As if to suggest that, by following a certain code, we all become saints, and the earth becomes as a new Eden.

This is nonsense.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:21 PM   #24
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WHILE GOVERNEMNT CAN BE, WITH PROPER MANAGEMENT AND RESTRAINT, A

USEFUL TOOL FOR MANAGING CRIMINALS.....




IT IS FUNDAMENTALLY CRIMINAL.... AND IT IS A MAGNET FOR

CRIMINALS.... WHO ALWAYS SEEK POWER. (ALWAYS!)

LIKE FIRE.... IT WILL CONSUME ITS MASTER AS SOON AS

IT IS ALLOWED TO.



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Old 07-19-2012, 02:24 PM   #25
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HE GOVERNS BEST WHO GOVERNS LEAST.


HE BENEFITS MOST FROM GOVERNMENT

WHO RESTRAINS AND MANAGES IT BEST.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:29 PM   #26
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WE'RE NOT SAINTS.


WE CAN ASPIRE TO BE...AND OUGHT TO.


THOSE WHO ASPIRE TO BE OTHERWISE REQUIRE RESTRAINT.

THEY ARE FEW.


BUT MALIGNANT.



...AND TOO MANY OF THEM POPULATE OUR

GOVERNMENT OFFICES.

MANY GOVERNMENTS, PAST AND PRESENT, CONSIST ENTIRELY

OF CRIMINALS...OF THE MOST MALIGNANT SORT... AND THEIR

HENCHMEN AND HEAD-BREAKERS.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:29 PM   #27
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Because he gives the impression of having interests, beyond that of corporate toadying. No 'man of the people' he, but certainly no 'good ole boy' either. Not just another white, stuffed suit who hails from old money. Probably didn't rub shoulders with government cronies at university. Seems to give a fuck, even if you disagree with what he's doing. Not everyone's a Conservative, whose life revolves around their bank balance. And that must infallibly exert a great influence upon the public psyche.

That's fresh. It's different. Dare I say it. Unique?
I completely don't understand how someone could come away with that impression..
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:29 PM   #28
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MOST GOVERNEMNT IS MALIGNANT.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:30 PM   #29
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As if to suggest that, by following a certain code, we all become saints, and the earth becomes as a new Eden.

This is nonsense.
No. by restraining the crooks, we can be as perfect as human society ever gets..
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:31 PM   #30
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OBAMA IS A PATHETIC LITTLE TIN-POT LEFTIST POLITICIAN....

BEING USED BY A CANNY CABAL OF TYRANNISTS...AND THEIR MEDIA DUPES.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:33 PM   #31
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There is no stasis in human affairs. This is a fundamental truth. Life cannot, and will not, be reduced to a snapshot in time. It shall proceed, and despite any effort to arrest it's momentum. One cannot stem the flow. To attempt it is vanity. And the product is misery.

Both Liberals and Conservatives fail to comprehend this. Or if they do not, they pretend it is otherwise.

No excess. No limitation. Only continuum.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:35 PM   #32
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RIGHT AND WRONG PERSIST, REGARDLESS OF TIME.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:36 PM   #33
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There is no stasis in human affairs. This is a fundamental truth. Life cannot, and will not, be reduced to a snapshot in time. It shall proceed, and despite any effort to arrest it's momentum. One cannot stem the flow. To attempt it is vanity. And the product is misery.

Both Liberals and Conservatives fail to comprehend this. Or if they do not, they pretend it is otherwise.

No excess. No limitation. Only continuum.
But the power of government should be restrained to a "snapshot in time"

Because, history is filled with examples of what happens if you do not.. And we're finite beings. We're here for only an instant.

We have a natural right to function without undue interference from our servants..

If you let them go, they forget this.. They start thinking WE'RE the servants and they're the Lords..

It's a dangerous condition that can diminish, or even ruin outright, the lives of generations before it is checked.. IF it is checked.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:36 PM   #34
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I completely don't understand how someone could come away with that impression..
I think it's more that people are so crushed with the weariness of politics, they'll entertain anything that looks different at this point. Blind hope.

Don't forget, that's what put him where he is right now.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:37 PM   #35
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HUMAN NATURE IS STABLE ACROSS CONSIDERABLE

STRETCHES OF TIME.

WE ARE CONFRONTED DAILY WITH THE


OUTRAGES OF THE REPTILE BRAIN...

AND GOVERNEMNT OFFICERS ARE NOT EXEMPT.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:38 PM   #36
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HIS COMPLEXION PUT HIM WHERE HE IS.

WE REALLY HAVE NO MORE PRESS IN AMERICA.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:39 PM   #37
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OUR DIFFICULTIES ARE OF CONGRESSIONAL ORIGIN.


OBAMA IS A PASSING DISTURBANCE... A FENDER-BENDER.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:39 PM   #38
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I think it's more that people are so crushed with the weariness of politics, they'll entertain anything that looks different at this point. Blind hope.

Don't forget, that's what put him where he is right now.
I can see that.. The Republicans lost for decades because they were the "party of the rich" But in truth, Obama's completely corrupt.. Just as bad as they are.

All these green hoaxes, money to his cronies.. He sold us down the river to big Pharma and Insurance..

He's a cheap con artist.. But, some people just don't see that.

If Bush did it, they'd see it instantly.. But they don't with this guy?
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:44 PM   #39
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THE MEDIA ARE GENERALLY PROTECTIVE OF OBAMA...

AND OF ANYONE WHO PROMOTES

MORE GOVERNMENT AND LESS


ACCOUNTABLE GOVERNMENT.

THEY ARE A SMALL GROUP....

WITH A HUGE MEGAPHONE.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:44 PM   #40
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I suspect many don't see it because they hate the Republicans so badly.. Bush(s) hurt them terribly.

People like SD and rocat warp reality as as not to find fault with anyone Republican. (Even vile slime like Trent Lott) Perhaps they're doing the same thing with Obama?

"Yes, he's bad... But, omg.. The Republicans and Bush are much worse."
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