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Old 06-30-2012, 05:59 PM   #1
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Default Republican Governors who won't implement Obamacare..
Like Perry and Jindal, may be shooting their mouths off prematurely..

My understanding is that if you don't implement the law, you don't get matching funds for medicaid expansion..

But residents of the state are STILL REQUIRED to purchase care.

This will not sit well with many lower income (And even middle class) families as they begin to lose any care they have and are forced to purchase it on the open market.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:25 PM   #2
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Like Perry and Jindal, may be shooting their mouths off prematurely..

My understanding is that if you don't implement the law, you don't get matching funds for medicaid expansion..

But residents of the state are STILL REQUIRED to purchase care.

This will not sit well with many lower income (And even middle class) families as they begin to lose any care they have and are forced to purchase it on the open market.
The Fla governor has also said he will not implement it. 26 states joined the challenge. This is by no means over.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:27 PM   #3
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The Fla governor has also said he will not implement it. 26 states joined the challenge. This is by no means over.
Unless wins and repeals this, it is most certainly over..

Roberts saw to that.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:44 PM   #4
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It's good to see at least a couple Gov's trying to act like a fucking Governor.

I'll never understand why they gave their powers up in the first place.....

The Gov's, could stop all this shit, in a heartbeat....but they're too worried about losing a couple bucks of fed money, to stand up for their state, and their office.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:46 PM   #5
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It's good to see at least a couple Gov's trying to act like a fucking Governor.

I'll never understand why they gave their powers up in the first place.....

The Gov's, could stop all this shit, in a heartbeat....but they're too worried about losing a couple bucks of fed money, to stand up for their state, and their office.
Well, they're going to suffer all of the negative effects, regardless. The taxes and the mandate stand. They're "Constitutional" now..

People still have to have ins and employers will still be dropping their coverage.. They're going to lose medicaid funds and perhaps even the federal matching funds..

What do you do THEN?
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:50 PM   #6
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Well, they're going to suffer all of the negative effects, regardless. The taxes and the mandate stand. They're "Constitutional" now..

People still have to have ins and employers will still be dropping their coverage.. They're going to lose medicaid funds and perhaps even the federal matching funds..

What do you do THEN?
What then?

Gov's get voted OUT of course........and the next guy promises to suck federal cock, and 'fix' things.......(IE, get more free stuff to the people).

What won't happen, is that people won't say 'Holy fuck, we gotta fix this, it's gonna suck, but we HAVE to fix things'.

It's sad really.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:53 PM   #7
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What then?

Gov's get voted OUT of course........and the next guy promises to suck federal cock, and 'fix' things.......(IE, get more free stuff to the people).

What won't happen, is that people won't say 'Holy fuck, we gotta fix this, it's gonna suck, but we HAVE to fix things'.

It's sad really.
Yeah.. Because people really are powerless here. They're going to have to buy this... that's been settled.

If they lose the sliding scale matching funds, and the medicaid money.. Governors will be in a real spot.

They'll almost have to implement it.

You can't fight it back up to the court.. They've ruled on it.

The GOP could kill it, so that's about the only hope.... But until (and unless) they do, I dunno what good option governors have left.

It's been ripped right out of their hands and what remains is stacked against them.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:53 PM   #8
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This will not sit well with many lower income (And even middle class) families as they begin to lose any care they have and are forced to purchase it on the open market.
My tears are falling like rain. Really!
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:55 PM   #9
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My tears are falling like rain. Really!
Well, by definition we're talking about people who aren't on the system already being forced to take it.. And there's going to be people who will lose their employer coverage as they pay the tax instead.

So, it's not just poor niggers.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:57 PM   #10
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Nobody has any real options here.. The taxes stand.. The mandate stands.. They can withhold additional federal funding if you don't play ball. .

What do you do?

That decision just ended it.. It's a legitimate federal power now.
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:58 PM   #11
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HOW IN HELL IS THE PRESIDENT GOING

TO REPEAL LEGISLATION?




...
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:59 PM   #12
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This will not sit well with many lower income (And even middle class) families as they begin to lose any care they have and are forced to purchase it on the open market.

THE FEDS WANT A TRAINWRECK.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:00 PM   #13
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IF IT TAKES A FULL-BLOWN DEPRESSION TO

WHIP THESE PROLES TO THEIR KNEES, WE'LL GET ONE...

ENGINEERED IN WASHINGTON.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:01 PM   #14
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THE CONGRESS WILL NOT ALLOW ANY PRESIDENT

TO SNATCH THIS PERMANENT CASH COW AWAY FROM THEIR

GRASPING CLAWS.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:01 PM   #15
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What do you do?

That decision just ended it.. It's a legitimate federal power now.
Well I don't know about you but I'm going to wait for Congress to order me to purchase a Chevy Volt and tax me if I don't. I cannot believe Roberts was stupid enough to set that as precedent. He cannot have the brains God gave a guppy.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:03 PM   #16
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HOW IN HELL IS THE PRESIDENT GOING

TO REPEAL LEGISLATION?




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Well, fortunately.. Much of this is written in czar-eese.. Leaving actual implementation and administration up to the DHHS..

Who is appointed by the President.

So, that gives some sway to the executive.

A President will also have to sign laws repealing it.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:03 PM   #17
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Well I don't know about you but I'm going to wait for Congress to order me to purchase a Chevy Volt and tax me if I don't. I cannot believe Roberts was stupid enough to set that as precedent. He cannot have the brains God gave a guppy.
And our front runner won't even call it "Unconstitutional"
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:04 PM   #18
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PEOPLE WILL EITHER PAY THEIR BILLS....

OR LOSE WHAT LIBERTY THEY STILL RETAIN.

THAT'S IT.

ROMBAMAKARE IS A BRUTAL TAX ON YOUTH AND

HELATH... AND HEALTHY LIVING AT ANY AGE.


IT WILL BE ENFORCED VIA A MOST INTRICATE,

BRUTAL, AND INVASIVE TYRANNY....





DAMN THAT BITCH, ROBERTS.....

DAMN THEM ALL.


FIRE THEM ALL.


STOP THIS MONSTROUS THING NOW... IN 2012.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:05 PM   #19
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ROMBAMAKARE IS A BRUTAL TAX ON YOUTH AND

HELATH... AND HEALTHY LIVING AT ANY AGE. Yeah, and speaking of age.. There's going to be rationing.

You know it.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:07 PM   #20
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THE DEMPUBLICAN/PROGRESSIVE,

MITT "MANDATES" ROMNEY, IS MR.


GOVERNMENT HALTHCARE.




HE'S THE FIXER.



HE'LL PUSH IT RIGHT UP EVERYONE'S ASS.


(HE COULDN'T STOP IT IF HE TRIED...... AND HE WON'T)
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