[parishilton]

Organizations get disoriented after achieving their stated mission and in their quest for meaning they end up working at cross purpose of original intent. No longer about equality and justice but where's my free stuff.

[hacyOrgachbic]

Obviously not, if concessions are still assumed to be warranted.

You don't understand how it works, dude. No offence. That's not how feminism works.

[romalama]

Organizations get disoriented after achieving their stated mission and in their quest for meaning they end up working at cross purpose of original intent. No longer about equality and justice but where's my free stuff.

presently we've no lack of organizations that've outlived their usefulness.

power and money; better than crack cocaine.

[codecouponqw]

Those concessions will undermine everything they have done

[HonestSean]

Those concessions will undermine everything they have done

To the contrary, it will strengthen their resolve.

As well as to consolidate the assumption that women are victims, and that men are oppressors.

[FalHaitle]

Feminism is about women not being victims.

I don't want any special consideration because of my gender in the workplace.

I would like special consideration in other places, but that has nothing to do with equality or victimhood. Yes, I think the message has been lost. But then again I'm not a great fan of Affirmative Action either.

[portoskins]

Feminism is about women not being victims.

Based on the assumption that they are victims to begin with.

I don't want any special consideration because of my gender in the workplace. You are granted such considerations by society at large.

I would like special consideration in other places, but that has nothing to do with equality or victimhood. Yes, I think the message has been lost. But then again I'm not a great fan of Affirmative Action either. Unless such considerations are based upon gender.

[Pashtet]

Those concessions will undermine everything they have done

Could you post a link to what you're talking about? I missed it.

[PaulRyansew]

Based on the assumption that they are victims to begin with.

No, it's based on bias in the workplace, on limited opportunities for women and girls because of their gender. I won't go through my Set Designer's Union story all over again. Growing up a male most likely post the establishment of Feminism, you may not be personally aware of this.


You are granted such considerations by society at large. Can you tell me precisely what those considerations are?


Unless such considerations are based upon gender. They are considerations from Mr.M and are most definitely based on gender.

[selayeffethy]

What courtroom?

[BodoidearoLew]

No, it's based on bias in the workplace, on limited opportunities for women and girls because of their gender. I won't go through my Set Designer's Union story all over again. Growing up a male most likely post the establishment of Feminism, you may not be personally aware of this.

So it is about vicimhood. This despite the fact that women suffer no detriment professionally. 52% of management positions in my own country are now occupied by women. Women also work less hours and take more sickness leave. All this, and they're somehow 'oppressed'. But feminism goes waaaay the hell beyond workplace bullshit, to encompass every last facet of societal operation.

Can you tell me precisely what those considerations are? If indeed one can be 'precise' about so fundamental and all-pervasive a quality as absolute impunity. Women are basically unaccountable. They're afforded a far greater level of leniency in criminal proceedings; suffering nothing like the extent of incarceration as men do for the same crimes, and enjoy more leeway in divorce courts and during custody proceedings. They are always basically 'victims'. Even when they're not (perhaps especially then). And the law supports that view, for fear of being labelled as somehow misogynistic.

They are considerations from Mr.M and are most definitely based on gender. Is MrM a savage and brutal oppressor?

[IntinyBut]

The only way to dispatch feminism to the end it so fittingly deserves, is not to challenge it.

[Jenisoisy]

So it is about vicimhood. This despite the fact that women suffer no detriment professionally. 52% of management positions in my own country are now occupied by women. Women also work less hours and take more sickness leave. All this, and they're somehow 'oppressed'. But feminism goes waaaay the hell beyond workplace bullshit, to encompass every last facet of societal operation.

Really? I thought there was some glass ceiling thing. Well, some people think there is - I think it women earning less may have a bit to do with working less hours and maternity leave.

[ElectraDupu]

Organizations get disoriented after achieving their stated mission and in their quest for meaning they end up working at cross purpose of original intent. No longer about equality and justice but where's my free stuff.

What does this mean? And to which "organization" do you refer?

[carletoxtrs]

Really? I thought there was some glass ceiling thing. Well, some people think there is - I think it women earning less may have a bit to do with working less hours and maternity leave.

And so there is such a ceiling. If you're apt to hearken to feminists.

What the stats dictate is that, on average, men here earn 20% more then women. What they don't take account of (especially throughout the annals of feminist doctrine lulz) is that, on average, men work longer hours, and take less sickness and annual holiday leave than do women. Men are also more likely to work in the higher paid and more hazardous occupations than women, who almost exclusively dominate the service sector (which pays less). Certainly, these inconsistencies are a product only of clever and incomplete statistical bias.

And whatever any lingering inequality, they're manifest only in the private sector (which is notably less subject to oversight). Local government occupations (for all intents and purposes, female dominated) reflect no such disparity.

[luspikals]

PoliSci and Psych grads make less. Women make less because of their empowered position to decide for themselves. Then, they bitch about the consequences of their own decisions and blame men.

[GoveMoony]

What fucking court room?

This isn't about the congressional hearings is it?

[Lafclaria]

Impressionable herrings.

[Liabmeasez]

So it is about vicimhood. This despite the fact that women suffer no detriment professionally. 52% of management positions in my own country are now occupied by women. Women also work less hours and take more sickness leave. All this, and they're somehow 'oppressed'. But feminism goes waaaay the hell beyond workplace bullshit, to encompass every last facet of societal operation.


If indeed one can be 'precise' about so fundamental and all-pervasive a quality as absolute impunity. Women are basically unaccountable. They're afforded a far greater level of leniency in criminal proceedings; suffering nothing like the extent of incarceration as men do for the same crimes, and enjoy more leeway in divorce courts and during custody proceedings. They are always basically 'victims'. Even when they're not (perhaps especially then). And the law supports that view, for fear of being labelled as somehow misogynistic.


Is MrM a savage and brutal oppressor?

My boss is a woman. My new peer is a woman. There are several women directors in my company and a bunch of managers. If they're being oppressed, it's the best fucking oppression in the history of victimization.

There is no such thing as a glass ceiling or institutional discrimination. It does not exist.

[Effopsytupt]

Really? I thought there was some glass ceiling thing. Well, some people think there is - I think it women earning less may have a bit to do with working less hours and maternity leave.

Not really. Not all women work less hours or take maternity leave; you're falling for the sterotype. There is still a glass ceiling and still a good old boy's network.