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Old 01-02-2012, 03:30 AM   #1
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Default Obama on NDAA: I have the power to detain Americans… but I won’t
Statement by the President on H.R. 1540



The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it. In particular, I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists. Over the last several years, my Administration has developed an effective, sustainable framework for the detention, interrogation and trial of suspected terrorists that allows us to maximize both our ability to collect intelligence and to incapacitate dangerous individuals in rapidly developing situations, and the results we have achieved are undeniable. Our success against al-Qa’ida and its affiliates and adherents has derived in significant measure from providing our counterterrorism professionals with the clarity and flexibility they need to adapt to changing circumstances and to utilize whichever authorities best protect the American people, and our accomplishments have respected the values that make our country an example for the world.

http://www.infowars.com/president-ob...ns-but-i-wont/

He's a neo con, security stater.. As bad as bush ever was.

Should get a lot of votes from America's jihadi, pseudo-Conservative assholes who see muslims hiding under their beds.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:34 AM   #2
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This sucks.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:36 AM   #3
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...n-of-citizens/

The legislation has drawn severe criticism from civil liberties groups, many Democrats, along with Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, who called it “a slip into tyranny.” Recently two retired four-star Marine generals called on the president to veto the bill in a New York Times op-ed, deeming it “misguided and unnecessary.”

“Due process would be a thing of the past,” wrote Gens Charles C. Krulak and Joseph P. Hoar. “Current law empowers the military to detain people caught on the battlefield, but this provision would expand the battlefield to include the United States – and hand Osama bin Laden an unearned victory long after his well-earned demise.”
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:38 AM   #4
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Did Barry happen to address the fact that whether or not he will detain indefinitely without charge isn't as important as whether one of his successors will?
If this were to get into the wrong hands...
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:39 AM   #5
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The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it. In particular, I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists. But...but...bammy insisted that citizens be included before signing the bill:

http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-detenti...nse-levin-635/
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:39 AM   #6
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It's Progress.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:40 AM   #7
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Republicans voted for it.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:42 AM   #8
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Did Barry happen to address the fact that whether or not he will detain indefinitely without charge isn't as important as whether one of his successors will?
If this were to get into the wrong hands...
It's already in the wrong hands..
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:48 AM   #9
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But...but...bammy insisted that citizens be included before signing the bill:

http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-detenti...nse-levin-635/
Don't blame Obama.. He didn't write the bill.

He just signed it.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:48 AM   #10
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86 senators voted for this shit. That's insane.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:58 AM   #11
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The only thing that SLIGHTLY reassures me is the fact that this IS the United States Government we're talking about here-The most incompetent, inept, ineffective bunch around.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:01 AM   #12
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Yeah, that's real comforting..
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:20 AM   #13
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Anyone who dislikes Ron Paul automatically approves of this. Hoff says so.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:21 AM   #14
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I'm an idiot.. Hoff says so.
I do.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:29 AM   #15
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I do.
Piss in your coffee.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:19 AM   #16
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Statement by the President on H.R. 1540



The fact that I support this bill as a whole does not mean I agree with everything in it. In particular, I have signed this bill despite having serious reservations with certain provisions that regulate the detention, interrogation, and prosecution of suspected terrorists. Over the last several years, my Administration has developed an effective, sustainable framework for the detention, interrogation and trial of suspected terrorists that allows us to maximize both our ability to collect intelligence and to incapacitate dangerous individuals in rapidly developing situations, and the results we have achieved are undeniable. Our success against al-Qa’ida and its affiliates and adherents has derived in significant measure from providing our counterterrorism professionals with the clarity and flexibility they need to adapt to changing circumstances and to utilize whichever authorities best protect the American people, and our accomplishments have respected the values that make our country an example for the world.

http://www.infowars.com/president-ob...ns-but-i-wont/

He's a neo con, security stater.. As bad as bush ever was.

Should get a lot of votes from America's jihadi, pseudo-Conservative assholes who see muslims hiding under their beds.
And here we have the Amateur-in-Chief failing yet another leadership test. The most controversial parts of the bill, he claims to have "serious reservations" about. But he signs it anyway. He promises not to use the power (as tyrants always do), but has nothing to say about future executives. Instead of sending it back and telling them to fix it, he pays lip service. Of course, we know that he doesn't actually have any reservations, and was just making a politically comforting statement. Lying asshole. It is reminiscent of Bush and his signing of McCain-Feingold, saying that the court would ultimately decide. It's not for the Chief Executive to punt things to the court, nor is it for the Chief Executive to look at only his administration when gauging powers that will affect all administrations to come as long as this law is in place.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:20 AM   #17
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And here we have the Amateur-in-Chief failing yet another leadership test. The most controversial parts of the bill, he claims to have "serious reservations" about. But he signs it anyway. He promises not to use the power (as tyrants always do), but has nothing to say about future executives. Instead of sending it back and telling them to fix it, he pays lip service. Of course, we know that he doesn't actually have any reservations, and was just making a politically comforting statement. Lying asshole. It is reminiscent of Bush and his signing of McCain-Feingold, saying that the court would ultimately decide. It's not for the Chief Executive to punt things to the court, nor is it for the Chief Executive to look at only his administration when gauging powers that will affect all administrations to come as long as this law is in place.
I agree. This bill is horrifying.
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Old 01-02-2012, 08:46 AM   #18
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86 senators voted for this shit. That's insane.
Well....as long as it's just insanity.

We're ok.

I was worried that it might be anarchy.

We can't have that, you know.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:52 PM   #19
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http://youtu.be/6aLlMIZr48k
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FIRE THIS ROTTEN CONGRESS!
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:53 PM   #20
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http://youtu.be/6aLlMIZr48k
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....AND GET THAT NIGGER OUT OF THERE!!!!!!
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