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Old 12-31-2011, 06:11 AM   #21
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Wouldn't stop them from supplying a nuke to someone who'd do it. Ever think of that?

http://www.bloomberg.com/article/201...OcZ6NT3wo.html
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:13 AM   #22
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Apparently, the US bonded Sunni and Shia better than they did in Operation wutzitznutz in Iraq. If only there were a million WTC's. We could have real democracy in Iraq.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:14 AM   #23
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Apparently, the US bonded Sunni and Shia better than they did in Operation wutzitznutz in Iraq. If only there were a million WTC's. We could have real democracy in Iraq.
Maybe a video game?
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Old 12-31-2011, 12:13 PM   #24
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Wouldn't stop them from supplying a nuke to someone who'd do it. Ever think of that
They'd be held culpable, regardless.

Ever think of that?
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:06 PM   #25
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If you're referring to Israel ( shock), they seem to do a rather good job at controlling their use of nukes. None used in 40 plus years is a pretty good track record. Better than we can claim. Do you really believe Ahmadinejad will show equal restraint? Give a few to the Saudis. They hate Iran more than Israel does. They can solve the problem.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:01 PM   #26
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They'd be held culpable, regardless.

Ever think of that?
I don't think so. We know damn well many of the bombs that killed our troops in Iraq were made by Iran. Haven't done a damn thing about it either.
N Korea could sell a nuke to some madman and the UN would just scold them. No punishment at all.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:19 PM   #27
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If Iran gets a nuke. they could give it to some terrorist group. that group could smuggle it in to NY harbor and blow up most of NYC. Or they could bring it in through mexico and blow up LA. There would be no clear trail to Iran. So who would we retaliate against?
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:28 PM   #28
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If Iran gets a nuke. they could give it to some terrorist group. that group could smuggle it in to NY harbor and blow up most of NYC. Or they could bring it in through mexico and blow up LA. There would be no clear trail to Iran. So who would we retaliate against?
It would put us in the same position we were in after 9-11. Targeting a country for the crimes of an organization. The people will have none of that shit anymore. We have tied ourselves up in our own propaganda and left ourselves without options.
Paul will not make that any better. He'll be hiding under his desk with his musket waiting for the enemy to arrive.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:46 PM   #29
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That'd be national suicide.. They won't do that.
Of course it would be.
The U.S. has over 10,000 nuclear weapons.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:47 PM   #30
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If your neighbor was acting crazy and breaking into other peoples houses shooting the places up would you want a gun to protect yourself?
I would want a nuclear weapon.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:54 PM   #31
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why would they? How would you prove who provided it
No need to prove anything.Nuke the country or countries you want the public to believe were responsible.
If one was nuked and proven not responsible,claim making it a democracy!!
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:49 PM   #32
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If Iran gets a nuke. they could give it to some terrorist group. that group could smuggle it in to NY harbor and blow up most of NYC. Or they could bring it in through mexico and blow up LA. There would be no clear trail to Iran. So who would we retaliate against?
That would defeat the whole purpose of getting the nuke in the first place. The nuke is a deterrent. It protects you from invasion. If you give it away, you've lost your bargaining chip.
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Old 12-31-2011, 05:55 PM   #33
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That would defeat the whole purpose of getting the nuke in the first place. The nuke is a deterrent. It protects you from invasion. If you give it away, you've lost your bargaining chip.
OMG, WTF are you talking about??? No one is going to give away their only nuke. And no one makes just one anyway. Duhh.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:00 PM   #34
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Or they could bring it in through mexico and blow up LA.
An excellent argument for arming Iran..
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:05 PM   #35
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If a beligerant, nuclear Israel weren't making the case for a nuclear deterrant of their own.. I doubt we'd have problems with Iran.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:11 PM   #36
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If a beligerant, nuclear Israel weren't making the case for a nuclear deterrant of their own.. I doubt we'd have problems with Iran.
Iran would simply shift their focus......to someone else.....like us.....

Evil does not just disipate. Some countries in this world just suck and we have to deal with them. It's not our fault they suck, despite what Paul claims. Their leadership is demented and need to be beaten down.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:11 PM   #37
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However, face with a lopsided US foreign policy and a lingering, oft stated desire.. and following an actual attempt, to turn them into a proxy state.. Why WOULDN'T they want a fucking nuke?

Have you people lost your fucking minds?

We've created a situation where they need a weapon for self defense.. Their greivances are completely legitimate. With the help of our allies, we've CREATED this problem.

What in the fuck is the matter with you?

And what do we do after a strike?

We can't invade and hold Iran.. Do we just bomb them every two weeks till the end of time? Hoping in vain that they don't develop a nuke offshore or take the project underground?

What would our actions tell the rest of the world about the necessity of nuke arms? You'd have to be out of your mind to sign the NNPT after a stunt like that..

What will it to do drive nations into the arms of our enemies?

Do you people realize this isn't a fucking video game?
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:17 PM   #38
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Iran would simply shift their focus......to someone else.....like us.....
Gee, I wonder why they would do that?

Why not Russia, China or India?

Evil does not just disipate. Some countries in this world just suck and we have to deal with them. It's not our fault they suck, despite what Paul claims. Their leadership is demented and need to be beaten down. Annnnnd, we're just going to do this all by our lonesome? Right?

Because there's a military solution for everything that ails us?
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:19 PM   #39
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The fact is, we picked Iran because of their location and their resources.. It has nothing whatsoever to do with them.

They know why we picked them.. and if they want a nuke at this point I don't blame them at all.
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Old 12-31-2011, 06:20 PM   #40
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If Americans had the choice, how long would we sit beneath the sword of fucking Damocles before attempting to defend ourselves?

Anyone care to offer an honest answer to that one? Eh?
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