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**Nwxffgke** · 12-04-2011, 03:26 AM

IF HE HAS SUGGESTED THAT THE U.S. GOVT. PERPETRATED THE ATTACKS, I

DO NOT AGREE. Why would that be surprising?

Given our reaction to the attacks.

**arriftell** · 12-04-2011, 03:34 AM

http://youtu.be/4Nc2GWytR0E
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THEIR REACTION, NOT MINE.

THEY INITIATED YET ANOTHER PULLED PUNCHES ENGAGEMENT... THAT

HAS NOW OUT-LASTED WWI AND WWII... AND SPENT SEVERAL TRILLION

DOLLARS AND USURPED LIBERTIES... WHILE CAREFULLY AVOIDING DOING ANYTHING

SIGNIFICANT TO ADDRESS THE ATTACK ITSELF.

THE GOVT. REACTION TO THE MUCH-OVERHYPED BP SPILL WAS SIMILAR.

**somozasayre** · 12-04-2011, 03:35 AM

http://youtu.be/4Nc2GWytR0E
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PERHAPS ANOTHER ROUND OF FLU SHOTS.....

AND MORE RESTRICTIONS ON AUTOMOBILISTS...

**Guloqkcm** · 12-04-2011, 03:49 AM

Surely you're not suggesting that all "deniers" are Paul fans?

In fact, saw a survey of residents in the very footprint of the WTC.. and a majority of them doubted the official theory.

All Paul fans?

No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that with the exception of the occasional Van Jones type, ALL deniers that get within 10 miles of mainstream Republican/Democrat politics are Ron Paul supporters. The rest are off in weird-party land or stay away from politics completely.

As for the residents nearby, their opinions are moot and can easily be discounted. Such a traumatic event would surely have a psychological impact. I'm not interested in their opinions about the subject because their very rationality is subject to questioning.

**DrKirkNoliss** · 12-04-2011, 03:50 AM

Do you think I'm a truther or a holocaust denier?!?!? Get fucking real...

No, which is why I'd like you to speak about the second part of the question. Do you like being associated with those people?

**JulietOreira** · 12-04-2011, 03:51 AM

http://youtu.be/4Nc2GWytR0E
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CUE: "BOO GOT SHOT!"

**gundorana** · 12-04-2011, 03:52 AM

No. It's much more embarrassing. It's like fucking the devil.

That's funny, which is how I am sure you meant that to be. Like him or not, he's a mainstream character that stays within the bounds of rationality.

**imporrilk** · 12-04-2011, 03:53 AM

http://youtu.be/pvLAh8LLl7o

**panholio** · 12-04-2011, 03:55 AM

To some it would be. lol

And what about the militant black panthers in obama's camp?

You missed that part.

Of course they are associated with him. La Raza too. I didn't think we even needed to go there. None of us will defend those assholes. None of us want to be associated with them.

**beneitpedro** · 12-04-2011, 03:55 AM

http://youtu.be/lYc3Fa1uXhk

WHEEE!

**lomonel** · 12-04-2011, 03:55 AM

That's funny, which is how I am sure you meant that to be. Like him or not, he's a mainstream character that stays within the bounds of rationality.

Sure, I meant it to be funny. But let's remember that this guy basically orchestrated the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people overseas. So, really, it's not so funny...

**slimsex** · 12-04-2011, 03:56 AM

I personally consider the neo-cons to be much nuttier than either holocaust deniers or "truthers"

There's loads of them in the Republican party, and they all hate Paul.

More devious and dangerous, maybe (okay, definitely). But nuttier? Hardly.

**Guloqkcm** · 12-04-2011, 03:58 AM

To be perfectly honest, bigac, it is threads like this that are the only think preventing you from becoming me.

You're on the cusp.

Stop blowing it...

Why would I want to move down to the minor leagues?

**M1iFiNmC** · 12-04-2011, 03:58 AM

Why would I want to move down to the minor leagues?

Damn. You're crazy.

You are fired as my apprentice...

**Friend_Joe** · 12-04-2011, 03:58 AM

More devious and dangerous, maybe (okay, definitely). But nuttier? Hardly.

Man, I dunno.. If the mideast slips out from under us, they and their crazy plans are to blame.

Remember the Palestinian vote? Those stupid fuckers actually thought we'd get moderation there. That "democracy" would save the day!

They voted for Hamas.. Just like we (The sane people among us, anyway) knew they would.

NOW there's Egypt.. and it's looking like the same thing all over again.

Iraq is hardly settled business.

They're NUTS!

**Twendypreency** · 12-04-2011, 03:59 AM

Sure, I meant it to be funny. But let's remember that this guy basically orchestrated the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people overseas. So, really, it's not so funny...

Bah.

**nryFBa9i** · 12-04-2011, 04:00 AM

Bah.

Nah. He orchestrated the election and the administration. He built the fucking thing.

**rujeltaoser** · 12-04-2011, 04:00 AM

http://youtu.be/lYc3Fa1uXhk

BUT...THEY'RE GOOD ISLAMISTS... SO SAFE...SO MODERATE...

JUST LISTEN... THEY'LL TELL YOU AS MUCH!

**freeprescriptionplanrrx** · 12-04-2011, 04:01 AM

Man, I dunno.. If the mideast slips out from under us, they and their crazy plans are to blame.

Remember the Palestinian vote? Those stupid fuckers actually thought we'd get moderation there. That "democracy" would save the day!

They voted for Hamas.. Just like we (The sane people among us, anyway) knew they would.

NOW there's Egypt.. and it's looking like the same thing all over again.

Iraq is hardly settled business.

They're NUTS!

Dangerously incompetent at times, yes. But they at least work within the bounds of rationality.

**perhilzit** · 12-04-2011, 04:03 AM

And there's a distinction here.. Laraza and the panthers and those fuckers are right out.

They advocate horribly anti-Constitutional, anti-American policies and positions. They're just takers. That's why I'd be ashamed of associating with them.

Deniers, however.. they just believe in a different version of historical events, and they back it up with a reasonable argument and research..

That's it.

That doesn't frighten me. I don't even put them in the same league with the Panther assholes and militant spics.

12-04-2011, 03:26 AM	#21
Nwxffgke Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	IF HE HAS SUGGESTED THAT THE U.S. GOVT. PERPETRATED THE ATTACKS, I DO NOT AGREE. Why would that be surprising? Given our reaction to the attacks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:34 AM	#22
arriftell Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 411 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/4Nc2GWytR0E ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THEIR REACTION, NOT MINE. THEY INITIATED YET ANOTHER PULLED PUNCHES ENGAGEMENT... THAT HAS NOW OUT-LASTED WWI AND WWII... AND SPENT SEVERAL TRILLION DOLLARS AND USURPED LIBERTIES... WHILE CAREFULLY AVOIDING DOING ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT TO ADDRESS THE ATTACK ITSELF. THE GOVT. REACTION TO THE MUCH-OVERHYPED BP SPILL WAS SIMILAR. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:35 AM	#23
somozasayre Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/4Nc2GWytR0E ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PERHAPS ANOTHER ROUND OF FLU SHOTS..... AND MORE RESTRICTIONS ON AUTOMOBILISTS... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:49 AM	#24
Guloqkcm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	Surely you're not suggesting that all "deniers" are Paul fans? In fact, saw a survey of residents in the very footprint of the WTC.. and a majority of them doubted the official theory. All Paul fans? No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that with the exception of the occasional Van Jones type, ALL deniers that get within 10 miles of mainstream Republican/Democrat politics are Ron Paul supporters. The rest are off in weird-party land or stay away from politics completely. As for the residents nearby, their opinions are moot and can easily be discounted. Such a traumatic event would surely have a psychological impact. I'm not interested in their opinions about the subject because their very rationality is subject to questioning. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:50 AM	#25
DrKirkNoliss Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 476 Senior Member	Do you think I'm a truther or a holocaust denier?!?!? Get fucking real... No, which is why I'd like you to speak about the second part of the question. Do you like being associated with those people? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:51 AM	#26
JulietOreira Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 584 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/4Nc2GWytR0E ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CUE: "BOO GOT SHOT!" Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:52 AM	#27
gundorana Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 502 Senior Member	No. It's much more embarrassing. It's like fucking the devil. That's funny, which is how I am sure you meant that to be. Like him or not, he's a mainstream character that stays within the bounds of rationality. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:53 AM	#28
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12-04-2011, 03:55 AM	#29
panholio Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 409 Senior Member	To some it would be. lol And what about the militant black panthers in obama's camp? You missed that part. Of course they are associated with him. La Raza too. I didn't think we even needed to go there. None of us will defend those assholes. None of us want to be associated with them. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:55 AM	#30
beneitpedro Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 488 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/lYc3Fa1uXhk WHEEE! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:55 AM	#31
lomonel Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 648 Senior Member	That's funny, which is how I am sure you meant that to be. Like him or not, he's a mainstream character that stays within the bounds of rationality. Sure, I meant it to be funny. But let's remember that this guy basically orchestrated the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people overseas. So, really, it's not so funny... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:56 AM	#32
slimsex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 459 Senior Member	I personally consider the neo-cons to be much nuttier than either holocaust deniers or "truthers" There's loads of them in the Republican party, and they all hate Paul. More devious and dangerous, maybe (okay, definitely). But nuttier? Hardly. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:58 AM	#33
Guloqkcm Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 516 Senior Member	To be perfectly honest, bigac, it is threads like this that are the only think preventing you from becoming me. You're on the cusp. Stop blowing it... Why would I want to move down to the minor leagues? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:58 AM	#34
M1iFiNmC Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	Why would I want to move down to the minor leagues? Damn. You're crazy. You are fired as my apprentice... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:58 AM	#35
Friend_Joe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 505 Senior Member	More devious and dangerous, maybe (okay, definitely). But nuttier? Hardly. Man, I dunno.. If the mideast slips out from under us, they and their crazy plans are to blame. Remember the Palestinian vote? Those stupid fuckers actually thought we'd get moderation there. That "democracy" would save the day! They voted for Hamas.. Just like we (The sane people among us, anyway) knew they would. NOW there's Egypt.. and it's looking like the same thing all over again. Iraq is hardly settled business. They're NUTS! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 03:59 AM	#36
Twendypreency Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 471 Senior Member	Sure, I meant it to be funny. But let's remember that this guy basically orchestrated the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people overseas. So, really, it's not so funny... Bah. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 04:00 AM	#37
nryFBa9i Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 429 Senior Member	Bah. Nah. He orchestrated the election and the administration. He built the fucking thing. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 04:00 AM	#38
rujeltaoser Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	http://youtu.be/lYc3Fa1uXhk BUT...THEY'RE GOOD ISLAMISTS... SO SAFE...SO MODERATE... JUST LISTEN... THEY'LL TELL YOU AS MUCH! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 04:01 AM	#39
freeprescriptionplanrrx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 524 Senior Member	Man, I dunno.. If the mideast slips out from under us, they and their crazy plans are to blame. Remember the Palestinian vote? Those stupid fuckers actually thought we'd get moderation there. That "democracy" would save the day! They voted for Hamas.. Just like we (The sane people among us, anyway) knew they would. NOW there's Egypt.. and it's looking like the same thing all over again. Iraq is hardly settled business. They're NUTS! Dangerously incompetent at times, yes. But they at least work within the bounds of rationality. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-04-2011, 04:03 AM	#40
perhilzit Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 368 Senior Member	And there's a distinction here.. Laraza and the panthers and those fuckers are right out. They advocate horribly anti-Constitutional, anti-American policies and positions. They're just takers. That's why I'd be ashamed of associating with them. Deniers, however.. they just believe in a different version of historical events, and they back it up with a reasonable argument and research.. That's it. That doesn't frighten me. I don't even put them in the same league with the Panther assholes and militant spics. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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