[Tumarimmicdak]

No, all I remember is you, but you've admitted to smoking tobacco, so you don't really count (I'm against the use of ALL drugs, legal and illegal).

That's tantamount to gross deflection.

It's also very much beside the point. Legal or otherwise, the larger issue remains one of tyranny, and a people's right to self determination. You're desirous of Big Government.

You refuse to acknowledge the lack of recorded fatality owing to use of marijuana. That's dishonesty, since we both know it's a fact.

[GalasaKoll]

(I'm against the use of ALL drugs, legal and illegal).

Penicillin is a drug.

[slima]

That's tantamount to gross deflection.

It's also very much beside the point. Legal or otherwise, the larger issue remains one of tyranny, and a people's right to self determination. You're desirous of Big Government.

You refuse to acknowledge the lack of recorded fatality owing to use of marijuana. That's dishonesty, since we both know it's a fact.

I'm only for Big Government in the case of drug policy.

[juyrett]

I'm only for Big Government in the case of drug policy.

Big Government, nonetheless. I admire this concession however. You're an unapologetic tyrannist. In a twisted sense, that's rather admirable.

[wentscat]

I'm for Big Government.

Fascist.

[Justlovemy]

Big Government, nonetheless. I admire this concession however. You're an unapologetic tyrannist. In a twisted sense, that's rather admirable.

Fine. I don't give a fuck. At least I don't have a drug problem like everyone else on this worthless site.

[Loonerisav]

Fine. I don't give a fuck. At least I don't have a drug problem like everyone else on this worthless site.

You have a bigger problem with drugs than anyone else on this web site. It's all you talk about.

[Cengaeas]

You have a bigger problem with drugs than anyone else on this web site. It's all you talk about.

No, I don't have a problem with drugs. I have a problem with drug USERS.

[famosetroie]

No, I don't have a problem with drugs. I have a problem with drug USERS.

Most of the people on this forum are not drug users. Yet you have a problem with all of them. You even accuse non-users of using.

Don't you think that's a bit obsessive, slanderous and rude?

[Paladin]

Fine. I don't give a fuck. At least I don't have a drug problem like everyone else on this worthless site.

You have the biggest problem of all, and with no drug use to excuse you.

[hexniks]

You have the biggest problem of all, and with no drug use to excuse you.

What's my problem? Not having a liberal mindset that makes me feel like people have some sort of right to use drugs? Drugs do nothing but harm users and loved ones. When enough people turn their backs on drug users, society suffers. We're seeing that right now. There are certain countries like Malaysia that have strict zero-tolerance policies when it comes to drugs. If you're caught using or smuggling them, you're given the death penalty. Instead, we just arrest them, make them pay a fine and send them on their way. That's why I don't understand when people say that the majority of prisoners in the U.S. are drug offenders. Unless you're a big-time dealer or grower, you don't get in that much trouble.

[Mambattedge]

What's my problem? Not having a liberal mindset that makes me feel like people have some sort of right to use drugs? Drugs do nothing but harm users and loved ones. When enough people turn their backs on drug users, society suffers. We're seeing that right now. There are certain countries like Malaysia that have strict zero-tolerance policies when it comes to drugs. If you're caught using or smuggling them, you're given the death penalty. Instead, we just arrest them, make them pay a fine and send them on their way. That's why I don't understand when people say that the majority of prisoners in the U.S. are drug offenders. Unless you're a big-time dealer or grower, you don't get in that much trouble.

No punishment provides assurance against recidivism. Capital punishment included. Malaysia's own drug trade remains, and will continue to do so, no matter how draconian the punishments. Same for anywhere else. And a drug 'offence' is still an offence. I imagine repeat offenders incur heavier sentences.

But this is practically tangential. Analysis of the judiciary goes no way towards resolving the wider issue, which remains legalisation.