[Rurcextedutty]

The 14th Amendment states that the validity of the debt shall not be questioned, giving the POTUS Executive Power to raise the debt ceiling when there is no other option, i.e., a congressional stalemate.
That being said, our current congress is clearly slated to see a majority of it's incumbants ousted in 2012. If the dems get their way....there is a pretty big chance that things will get worse, likewise, that same fear resonates among the republicans as well, thus, congress will be held responsible in either case.
However.....if the president is forced to create his own plan and invoke the 14th amendment, he will be the sole owner of the crisis, leaving both sides of the aisle innocent of any failed policy. Obama becomes the scapegoat......the irony being that....well....the chickens have come home to roost.
How many of his "friends and collegues" has he thrown under the bus since taking office?
It would stand to reason that the democrats of both the house and senate are frustrated with this president for his lack of support for them, just as he lacks support for any republican. Both party's appear to be one in the same as far as he's concerned, because neither side of the aisle respect him as a leader anymore.
When the presidents plan fails, they are left with no blood on their hands......and Obama is left with sole ownership of the impending doom, leaving congress simply saying.....we tried everything at our disposal, to no avail......Mr. President, we need YOU to make a decision.
I think both sides agree that whoever the next POTUS is......they are exponentially a better hope for this country than another four years of this yo-yo.
It may be a stretch.....but then again.....it is the US government.

[Meerenuch]

If we get a fucking downgrade because of the debt size and failure to control it, as moody's is threatening (Please, please, please) they ALL OWN IT..

The only group with clean hands are the Tea Party.. Who wanted to cut spending.

[wallyfindme]

If we get a fucking downgrade because of the debt size and failure to control it, as moody's is threatening (Please, please, please) they ALL OWN IT..

The only group with clean hands are the Tea Party.. Who wanted to cut spending.

Perhaps both sides really do embrace the tea party.....just won't admit it.

[Jon Woodgate]

I think they hate them.. Turds in the DC punchbowl.

[andreas]

If we get a fucking downgrade because of the debt size and failure to control it, as moody's is threatening (Please, please, please) they ALL OWN IT..

The only group with clean hands are the Tea Party.. Who wanted to cut spending.

Amen.

And keep in mind....that the Tea Party sorta saved the repubs last cycle.....and they've been shit on in return.

They haven't forgotten that....

[TeveVikep]

FIRE THEM ALL.

[trettegeani]

"The buck stops here". Those are Ubama's own words.

[weaddercaps]

http://youtu.be/Qh6PXqclUoI THE MILLER SISTERS

http://youtu.be/zcu6FjK9vgs LADIES & GENTLEMEN, THE ROLLING STONES

"LORENA" http://youtu.be/dyskZquf0ac TOM ROUSH

LISTEN TO THE MOCKINGBIRD
http://youtu.be/Gvr3lbxi1a0 TOM ROUSH

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THEY ALL SUCK.

THEY ALL LIE.

THEY ALL SPEND.

THEY ALL BORROW.

FIRE THEM ALL.

[Daruhuw]

If we get a fucking downgrade because of the debt size and failure to control it, as moody's is threatening (Please, please, please) they ALL OWN IT..

The only group with clean hands are the Tea Party.. Who wanted to cut spending.

The tea party have the dirtiest hands. They saw the big picture, and had a tantrum.

[iqxdvjgmat]

"The buck stops here". Those are Ubama's own words.

Those are Harry's words......Obama just plagiarizes.........a mulatto type Crawley......

[jamemeveRhype]

The tea party have the dirtiest hands. They saw the big picture, and had a tantrum.

How does common sense give you the dirty hands?
Ooops, my bad.......it's DC.....there is no common sense.
Carry on.

[esdfsdflast]

The 14th amendment does not give the President power to raise the debt ceiling. The actual wording of Section 4 is:

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But Neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in the aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. Section 4 of the 14th amendment only concerns debts incurred during the fighting of the Civil war. It has nothing to do with president dumb fuck spending like a drunken sailor.

[zttrftwsq]

The 14th amendment does not give the President power to raise the debt ceiling. The actual wording of Section 4 is:



Section 4 of the 14th amendment only concerns debts incurred during the fighting of the Civil war. It has nothing to do with president dumb fuck spending like a drunken sailor.

And the right to citizenship by birth of an undocumented immigrant in the United States was for slaves, not wetbacks. But nothing in our constitution seems to matter anymore unless it fits the liberal left agenda. So.....with this admin....your point is moot. You're not wrong.....it's just.....logic is folly these days.
It's also illegal to incite a public riot......but if I could get enough people together....I would without hesitation.....if for no other reason than my country's sanity.

[cmruloah]

And the right to citizenship by birth of an undocumented immigrant in the United States was for slaves, not wetbacks. But nothing in our constitution seems to matter anymore unless it fits the liberal left agenda. So.....with this admin....your point is moot. You're not wrong.....it's just.....logic is folly these days.
It's also illegal to incite a public riot......but if I could get enough people together....I would without hesitation.....if for no other reason than my country's sanity.

But the "anchor baby" cannot petition for his parents until s/he is of legal age. Which means that the parents can and should be deported. I am not bashing Hispanics, I believe the same should apply to illegals from all countries.

[adverwork]

But the "anchor baby" cannot petition for his parents until s/he is of legal age. Which means that the parents can and should be deported. I am not bashing Hispanics, I believe the same should apply to illegals from all countries.

The law should be repealed in it's entirety. It only creates unnecessary problems for the US.

[JohnMaltczevitch]

If It Turns Out On Obama, Great.
But It's Not A Grand Scheme Put Together On The Hill.

[Pharmaciest2007]

If you are capable of biding your time and bullshitting, a career in politics may just be be your beck and call.