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Old 07-10-2011, 05:39 PM   #1
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Default Article: Liberals and their love of "Infrastructure"
“Cost overruns in the order of 50 percent in real terms are common for major infrastructure, and overruns above 100 percent are not uncommon,” Bent Flyvbjerg, a professor of major program management at the University of Oxford’s Said Business School, writes in the Oxford Review of Economic Policy. “Demand and benefit forecasts that are wrong by 20-70 percent compared with actual development are common.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...a-postrel.html

From an analysis of hundreds of projects, from 20 countries over 70 years.. the largest data set ever compiled..
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:41 PM   #2
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Synopsis: Liberals are stupid dreamers who never developed and are destined to remain bi-curious, urban tweens, while conservatives and other smart, adult people build things that work.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:45 PM   #3
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..AND THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN'T FUCK UP..... PRIVATE OUTFITS ALWAYS OUT-PERFORM THEM.

REMEMBER THE OVERPASS DEMOLITION/REPLACEMENT AFTER THE BAD L.A. EARTHQUAKE?

REMEMBER THE KUWAIT OIL FIRES?

HOW ABOUT THE PANAMA CANAL?
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:45 PM   #4
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EMPIRE STATE BUILDING VS BIG DIG.....


HOOVER DAM VS SUPERCONDUCTING SUPERCOLLIDER
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:50 PM   #5
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What, only liberals want a solid infrastructure? I personally prefer it when our bridges don't come crashing down. I want potholes to be filled and the buildings we need to get built. I'm all for buildings to be quake resistant.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:53 PM   #6
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Nobody is saying that.. But Obama has been waving the infrastructure card for nigh on three years now, and the rosy economic scenarios and projected costs are both smoke in mirrors.

Further, I think the states should be building their own infrastructure... I have no interest in financing bridges to nowhere as some sort of misguided jobs program.

If I want a bridge, it's because I want to cross some water.. Not so some nigger can lean on a shovel at union wage.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:59 PM   #7
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http://youtu.be/mZimZYTwuDk

I'D LIKE TO SEE STATES DO ALL ROADS, BRIDGES, ETC.

INTERSTATE ROUTES TO A COMMON STANDARD... ALL OTHERS TO STATE'S DISCRETION.


STOP THE FEDERAL MONEY/POWER GRAB.

KEEP THE MONEY IN THE STATES/LOCALITIES.
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:01 PM   #8
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http://youtu.be/mZimZYTwuDk

"BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POOR STATES????"


WHAT ABOUT 'EM?
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:02 PM   #9
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INTERSTATE ROUTES TO A COMMON STANDARD... ALL OTHERS TO STATE'S DISCRETION. Yeah, and there's no reason why State legislatures and governors can't develop standards..

Libs act like state government is chopped liver.. and incapable of anything beyond letting faggots marry.

State government should be a lot more important and influential than it is now. Let them work out standards for carbon, roads, pot, and whatever else the people decide.. THEN, let them face the consequences of their decisions.

That's how it's supposed to work, and stupid is supposed to hurt.

We need to get back to that..
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:02 PM   #10
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IF MICHIGAN WOULD RATHER PAY NIGGERS TO WHELP INSTEAD OF KEEPING UP THE HIGHWAYS... SO BE IT.
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:03 PM   #11
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http://youtu.be/mZimZYTwuDk

"BUT WHAT ABOUT THE POOR STATES????"


WHAT ABOUT 'EM?
My answer?

They need to attract business investment and manage their bonds very carefully.

Not all states are the same.. and that's fine, imo.
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:04 PM   #12
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IF MICHIGAN WOULD RATHER PAY NIGGERS TO WHELP INSTEAD OF KEEPING UP THE HIGHWAYS... SO BE IT.
Exactly.. Let THE BELLS OF STUPID RING ACROSS THIS LAND!!!!

And tomorrow, the hangover..
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:05 PM   #13
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THEY NEED TO PRIORITIZE SPENDING.... AND SEE TO IT THAT PUBLIC SPENDING YIELDS PUBLIC BENEFIT.... OR ELSE STOP IT.
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:09 PM   #14
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THEY NEED TO PRIORITIZE SPENDING.... AND SEE TO IT THAT PUBLIC SPENDING YIELDS PUBLIC BENEFIT.... OR ELSE STOP IT.
Contrary to liberal whinging, being lean is a GOOD thing.. It forces them to prioritize.

A glut of money is the WORST thing that can happen to a government.. and the people it allegedly serves.
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:12 PM   #15
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Contrary to liberal whinging, being lean is a GOOD thing.. It forces them to prioritize.

A glut of money is the WORST thing that can happen to a government.. and the people it allegedly serves.
Good luck getting a liberal to understand the very basic behavioral psychology and its effect on economics behind that one.

Free money! We've got plenty! Hand it out to buy votes! Hey, what happened to all of that money? We need more! We neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it!
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:13 PM   #16
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http://youtu.be/mZimZYTwuDk

THE GOVERNMENT.... NOT THE PEOPLE... SHOULD BE KEPT ON A TIGHT ALLOWANCE.
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:16 PM   #17
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Good luck getting a liberal to understand the very basic behavioral psychology and its effect on economics behind that one.

Free money! We've got plenty! Hand it out to buy votes! Hey, what happened to all of that money? We need more! We neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed it!
It's that poor working sap!!!! HE NEEDS TO PAY HIS FAIR SHARE, GOSH-DAMNIT!

The Nigs wuz slaves.. and they'll vote for shiny beads..

I NEED SOME FREE BEADS! RIGHT NAO!!!

How much fucking government do we REALLY NEED, anyway?
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:26 PM   #18
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It's that poor working sap!!!! HE NEEDS TO PAY HIS FAIR SHARE, GOSH-DAMNIT!

The Nigs wuz slaves.. and they'll vote for shiny beads..

I NEED SOME FREE BEADS! RIGHT NAO!!!

How much fucking government do we REALLY NEED, anyway?
It should be obvious to all that we need very little. Of course, ask that question of many people and they'll start rationalizing all over the place.

"Well, you've got to take care of the poor... Those single mothers need help... We can't just leave people out in the cold... The kids need school lunches... We should subsidize electric bills for the poor... People really should have top-notch medical insurance even if they can't pay for it..."

This is the shit you have to pound out of people. Don't ever let stupid emotional statements like this go unchallenged. They build on themselves.
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