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Old 02-06-2011, 05:18 PM   #1
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Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt)
Updated: Feb. 4, 2011
For a generation, the Muslim Brotherhood has been by far the most muscular and influential of Egypt’s dissident organizations. It was officially banned but unofficially tolerated, in part because of its cautious approach to criticizing or challenging the regime of President Hosni Mubarak. It has long had a vast following among Egypt's 83 million people.
When widespread anger at Mr. Mubarak burst into massive public protests in late January 2011, the Brotherhood initially stood aloof, fearful that the government would try to blame it for the unrest, as the government in fact did. As a result, it found itself largely on the sidelines.
The Brotherhood joined the secular opposition in banding together around a Mohamed ElBaradei, a prominent and secular government critic, to negotiate on behalf of the forces seeking the fall of Mr. Mubarak. It appeared to be taking a more assertive role on Feb. 3, issuing a statement asking for Mr. Mubarak to step aside for a transitional government.
The Obama administration has spoken cautiously about the future role of the group, saying only that all parties must renounce violence and accept democracy. But one of the few near certainties of a post-Mubarak Egypt is that the Brotherhood will emerge as a powerful political force.
The unanswered question, according to experts on the region, is whether that will prove a manageable challenge for the United States and Israel or a catastrophe for American interests in the Middle East.
Read More... NEW YORK TIMES
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:46 PM   #2
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yeah, they lust for democracy...so they can take over and create a theocracy/dictatorship. The Muslim Brotherhood are very suspect, and they are Johnny-come-lately as far as the revolt goes...trying to ride the wave, after they initially sided with Mubarak (out of being pussies, no doubt)...and they, along with the Mohamed ElBaradei charecter are candidates for new sock puppet in charge.
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:51 PM   #3
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Interesting article..

I guess any real debate would have to begin with a question like this: How strongly do we support self determination?

Americans have, repeatedly throughout our history referred to this as an inalienable right of all men. And Americans have, repeatedly, denied the legitimacy of authoritarian regimes.

But now it's time to decide if we really believe that?

So.. Are we full of shit? Do we, as a unique (American) culture and a society, REALLY believe these are universal truths?

Yes or No? Anyone?
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:52 PM   #4
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Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt)
Updated: Feb. 4, 2011
For a generation, the Muslim Brotherhood has been by far the most muscular and influential of Egypt’s dissident organizations. It was officially banned but unofficially tolerated, in part because of its cautious approach to criticizing or challenging the regime of President Hosni Mubarak. It has long had a vast following among Egypt's 83 million people.
When widespread anger at Mr. Mubarak burst into massive public protests in late January 2011, the Brotherhood initially stood aloof, fearful that the government would try to blame it for the unrest, as the government in fact did. As a result, it found itself largely on the sidelines.
The Brotherhood joined the secular opposition in banding together around a Mohamed ElBaradei, a prominent and secular government critic, to negotiate on behalf of the forces seeking the fall of Mr. Mubarak. It appeared to be taking a more assertive role on Feb. 3, issuing a statement asking for Mr. Mubarak to step aside for a transitional government.
The Obama administration has spoken cautiously about the future role of the group, saying only that all parties must renounce violence and accept democracy. But one of the few near certainties of a post-Mubarak Egypt is that the Brotherhood will emerge as a powerful political force.
The unanswered question, according to experts on the region, is whether that will prove a manageable challenge for the United States and Israel or a catastrophe for American interests in the Middle East.
Read More... NEW YORK TIMES
Paragraph spacing please.. and go back to all caps.
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Old 02-06-2011, 07:58 PM   #5
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Lust for Democracy?
Ummm...yeah. I wish them the best, but suspect the 'lust' may have drawn all the blood from their brains, to empower their loins.
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Old 02-06-2011, 10:49 PM   #6
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IT'S FROM THE TIMES, SOPHIE, AND IT IS IN PARAGRAPHS. IT EVEN HAS A LINK... RIGHT THERE ON THE LEFT BUTTOCK, NEAR THE TATTOO OF LENIN'S FACE.
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Old 02-06-2011, 11:01 PM   #7
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Another troubling aspect of this is what is implied when people like Dick Cheney, Tony Blair, etc.. come out and say that Mubarak shouldn't leave because of the "chaos" that will ensue.

It really makes you wonder how much they respect our own right to self determination.. Which (I trust) isn't in any doubt whatsoever in the minds of most Americans.

But may be in great doubt in the minds of political elites.

Maybe this explains why Americans, despite having a democratic form of government, seldom seem to get what they want? The elites deem it "too extreme" and dismiss it in the simplest of ways.

Perhaps what we're seeing in Egypt is an image of what would happen if Americans demanded accountability at home?
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Old 02-06-2011, 11:30 PM   #8
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LET'S GIVE THE WORLD A DEMONSTRATION OF REPUBLICAN DEMOCRACY.

LET'S FIRE THEM ALL!
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