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Old 10-13-2010, 06:46 PM   #1
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Default The Fourteenth Amendment needs to be repealed
For several reasons - more specifically the due process clause, which pretty much grants the federal government/judges to rule in totalitarian fashion outside of legislators and grants the federal government unlimited powers, not to mention contradicts the Tenth Amendment.

The Fourteenth Amendment is exactly what grants the power to judges to rule however they see fit, more specifically the 9th circuit. i.e "activist" judges.

Very dangerous. It opens a Pandoras Box of tyranny..

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/cha...ranscript.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourtee...s_Constitution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_process
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:58 PM   #2
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Judges? Off with their heads!
Most judges are either niggers or communist jews.
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Old 10-13-2010, 09:01 PM   #3
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THERE IS A SERIOUS LACK OF JUDICIARY RESTRAINT.

THE SIXTEENTH AMENDMENT NEEDS TO BE REPEALED OUTRIGHT. IT ABROGATES MUCH OF THE REST OF THE CONSTITUTION.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:44 PM   #4
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THERE IS A SERIOUS LACK OF JUDICIARY RESTRAINT.

THE SIXTEENTH AMENDMENT NEEDS TO BE REPEALED OUTRIGHT. IT ABROGATES MUCH OF THE REST OF THE CONSTITUTION.
It was the Fourteenth Amendment that paved the way for the Sixteenth Amendment.

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The Fourteenth Amendment is also why anytime fagot liberals dont like a law that they go running to the 9th district under :

nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property,without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "liberty" is an extremely loose term - liberty could mean anarchy.
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Old 10-14-2010, 04:03 PM   #5
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Uhh...

The 14th amendment provides a definition of a citizen of this country. This amendment provides that all states will provide equal protection to everyone within their jurisdiction. It equally provides all constitutional rights to all citizens of this country, regardless of race, sex, religious beliefs and creed.

Maybe it could use an update, but not repeal
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Old 10-14-2010, 04:27 PM   #6
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Uhh...

The 14th amendment provides a definition of a citizen of this country. This amendment provides that all states will provide equal protection to everyone within their jurisdiction. It equally provides all constitutional rights to all citizens of this country, regardless of race, sex, religious beliefs and creed.

Maybe it could use an update, but not repeal
It also allows TYRANNICAL liberal judges to override democracy. e.g Prop 8

You might as well use the Fourteenth Amendment to push communism/redistribution of wealth since we all dont have "equal" amount of property...

Fuck that - I want the fucking thing repealed and something BETTER that doesn't contradict the Tenth Amendment.
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Old 10-14-2010, 04:48 PM   #7
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Whats to stop an illegal alien from squatting in your fucking house and stealing your shit under the 14th Amendment? answer? absolutely nothing but a judge.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. That means they can steal your shit if a judge will side with them and see it their way......
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:36 PM   #8
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Whats to stop an illegal alien from squatting in your fucking house and stealing your shit under the 14th Amendment? answer? absolutely nothing but a judge.



That means they can steal your shit if a judge will side with them and see it their way......
"nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law" is pretty clear.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:45 PM   #9
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"nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law" is pretty clear.
Yeah, its clear that judges can define it too...

In short a lazy liberal could sue to squat in your house and a liberal judge could side with him on the basis of 'liberal logic/interpretation' and the burden would be on you to appeal the case to a higher level and if the higher courts are 'liberal' enough than you're shit out of luck.

Do you not see the problem here?

The 14th grants the judicial system the power to rule as fucking totalitarian dictators of sort...

Thats fucking dangerous given the notion that progressive socialists are whackjob tyrants that rule with their emotions and their HATE rather than the boundaries of the law.
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Old 10-14-2010, 06:49 PM   #10
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The only thing it does it slip some power away from the politicians and give it to the judges, which is not any better, but not any worse.

For example A conservative politician in office, could imminent domain my house and give it to a condo company, because he and the company share the same conservative viewpoints of business coming first.
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:08 PM   #11
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The only thing it does it slip some power away from the politicians and give it to the judges, which is not any better, but not any worse.

For example A conservative politician in office, could imminent domain my house and give it to a condo company, because he and the company share the same conservative viewpoints of business coming first.
But unlike liberals MOST conservatives respect the constitution while MOST liberals view the constitution as a roadblock to their utopia. Believe me, if they could take our guns away they would do it and enslave us all into an Orwellian Stalinist society.

Beyond the Patriot Act show me where conservatives ATTACK the constitution or attempted to ban documented individual liberties.....
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:49 PM   #12
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But unlike liberals MOST conservatives respect the constitution while MOST liberals view the constitution as a roadblock to their utopia. Believe me, if they could take our guns away they would do it and enslave us all into an Orwellian Stalinist society.

Beyond the Patriot Act show me where conservatives ATTACK the constitution or attempted to ban documented individual liberties.....
George Bush and that bunch of neo-cons who created the Patriot Act are about as conservative as Karl Marx.
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:20 PM   #13
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I think we should be able to keep our guns, Conservatives agree with me. I think we should be able to keep our drugs, conservatives disagree with me. I think homosexuals should be able to have their rights, conservatives disagree with me. Conservatives aren't for smaller government, only smaller government up to the shit they want to do!
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:20 PM   #14
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Conservatives try to tell us what we can and cannot put in our own mouths, that's about as Marxist as it gets.
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:22 PM   #15
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George Bush and that bunch of neo-cons who created the Patriot Act are about as conservative as Karl Marx.
Hey, I didn't support the Patriot Act and I never thought Bush was a real "conservative."

Well, Obama extended it.....
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:25 PM   #16
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I think we should be able to keep our guns, Conservatives agree with me. I think we should be able to keep our drugs, conservatives disagree with me. I think homosexuals should be able to have their rights, conservatives disagree with me. Conservatives aren't for smaller government, only smaller government up to the shit they want to do!
What rights do homosexuals NOT have?

Sorry to break the fucking news to you Mark but gays CAN serve in the military - they just have to keep their fagotry to them selves.

Do straight men have the right to not shower with gays in the military Mark???

I'm a conservative mark and if you want drugs thats your own personal choice.
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:29 PM   #17
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Conservatives try to tell us what we can and cannot put in our own mouths, that's about as Marxist as it gets.
I dont give a FUCK what anyone does - just dont FORCE people to interact with people whom they're opposed to if they dont want to..

Get it Mark?

Telling me I have to shower with a fag is an infringement on MY RIGHTS. Telling me I have to bunk with a fag is an infringement of MY RIGHTS. Telling me I have to hire a nigger is an infringement of MY RIGHTS..

Where the fuck are my rights mark? because all I see is liberal social engineering and no one defending my right to be opposed to liberal values.

You see how that works Mark?
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:31 PM   #18
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What rights do homosexuals NOT have?

Sorry to break the fucking news to you Mark but gays CAN serve in the military - they just have to keep their fagotry to them selves. You just answered your own question right there. What they don't have is the right to talk about their personal lives in the Military, like everyone else.

I'm a conservative mark and if you want drugs thats your own personal choice. I feel like Conservatism is constantly tied to strong moral laws, you are not that kind of conservative, but there are many, and I struggle against their kind every day.
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Old 10-14-2010, 09:48 PM   #19
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You just answered your own question right there. What they don't have is the right to talk about their personal lives in the Military, like everyone else.
Sorry SPEWING your life is NOT A RIGHT...

Furthermore, I wish freedom of speech WAS A REAL RIGHT but its not....... When EVERYONE is allowed to say whatever the fuck they want without reprocussions THEN I will accept their right to say they're gay...

You think I would have the right to call another a nigger? or a fag? - they wont let me talk that way so why the fuck should they have the RIGHT to say what they want??

Its called SELECTIVE speech and LIBERALS regulate it.....

Do you not see that? do you not see how this government is playing favorites and SEGREGATING speech?

So when FREE SPEECH is a true right NO speech is a right....

I feel like Conservatism is constantly tied to strong moral laws, you are not that kind of conservative, but there are many, and I struggle against their kind every day. Morals is a personal choice and a personal ethics code.

I dont care what the fuck people do - just dont think for a second I have to put up with what you do because I will BLUNTLY call you out on it if I believe my rights are being violated.

Look, I'm tired liberals trying to DICTATE whats acceptable and whats not while using the fucking constitution to justify their bullshit while condemning the constitution when I say FAG or NIGGER or when I perpetuate MY ideas...
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