[DouseAuthott]

What is more important Ethnicity or Religion???

We know Ethnicity and Religion are two different things like Oranges and apples but what I want to know is what is more important to you and how should it be.

Should Ethnicity be put in front of religion or should religion be put in front of ethnicity??

Why would you put one in front of another ???

Aren't both Ethnicity and religion equally important???

Do you think both Ethnicity and Religion should hold the same place in society or in your personal life???

I was discussing this with some friends and some of them said Religion is more important and some said ethnicity.

Please give your thought on this topic and explain why you think it is like that.

p.s: will you contradict yourself if you say they both have the same place because if you are a religious person then religion tells you that there is nothing as important as religion, so can you actually put both in the same place????

Don't Ethnicity and Religion contradict each other???

The philosophy of Religion is that we are all brothers because we belong to a certain religion whereas behind the ethnicity thing it says that we are only brothers with the ones that we share same linguistic, cultural, genetic similarity.

So is it possible placing both in the same bag????

[ErubTiereedig]

They are both very important, but religion moreso. Religion is a very important part of Sicilian culture, as we are the most Catholic, conservative people in Europe. It's hard for me to separate them.

[alegsghed]

They are both very important, but religion moreso. Religion is a very important part of Sicilian culture, as we are the most Catholic, conservative people in Europe. It's hard for me to separate them.

you said both but you said religion is more important which means that you contradicted yourself.

let's put it this way, who would you as a proud Sicilian chose?? a Sicilian Muslim or a Nigerian Catholic???

[lymnCymment]

Some of my ancestors were Sicilian Muslims. I answered both because the two are inseparable. We have become nearly a monoreligious region, and one of the most religious areas on the Eurasian continent.

[MaigicyuNinia]

Some of my ancestors were Sicilian Muslims. I answered both because the two are inseparable. We have become nearly a monoreligious region, and one of the most religious areas on the Eurasian continent.

you are wrong they are not Inseparable it is quiet the opposite these two things are both unbondable.

you can't bond them, you can't put Ethnicity and Religion in the same place ( talking about Modern Religions like Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism)

Religion is the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or a set of beliefs concerning the origin and purpose of the universe. It is commonly regarded as consisting of a person’s relation to God, gods, or spirits.

An ethnic group (or ethnicity) is a group of people whose members identify with each other, through a common heritage, consisting of a common language, a common culture and a tradition of common ancestry (corresponding to a history of endogamy).


Ethnicity and religion are like the poles of a magnet, they don't touch, even though in many cases religion is part of a Ethnicity but not always because one ethnicity may be composed of a couple of religions.

[sbrpkkl]

Well, I don't know any Sicilian atheists, or Jews, or Protestants, or Muslims, or Buddhists. Every Sicilian I know is a Catholic.

So if I say it is more important to be Sicilian, how is that possible when one must be a Catholic to be a Sicilian?

I can say it is more important to be a Catholic, and for any good Christian that is the obvious answer, but I'm being honest.

The most important things to me are God and my family. My people are an extension of my family.

[Corporal White]

Well, I don't know any Sicilian atheists, or Jews, or Protestants, or Muslims, or Buddhists. Every Sicilian I know is a Catholic.

So if I say it is more important to be Sicilian, how is that possible when one must be a Catholic to be a Sicilian?

I can say it is more important to be a Catholic, and for any good Christian that is the obvious answer, but I'm being honest.

The most important things to me are God and my family. My people are an extension of my family.

no you mustn't.

as you said there have been people in your family tree that were Muslims.

what if a Sicilian decides to convert from Catholicism to Islam or Atheism will that make him non-sicilian???

I don't think that is the case because Religion and Ethnicity can't be bonded.

Don't tell me there are no SIcilian Atheists I am sure there are A BUNCH

So you would chose the Nigerian Catholic over the Sicilian Muslim???

[tabcdyop]

as you said there have been people in your family tree that were Muslims.

what if a Sicilian decides to convert from Catholicism to Islam or Atheism will that make him non-sicilian???

I don't think that is the case because Religion and Ethnicity can't be bonded.

Don't tell me there are no SIcilian Atheists I am sure there are A BUNCH

There are no Sicilian Muslims today. The island was, for 200 years or so largely Muslim but once the island's control switched, then the people were given the choice; convert, or leave.

[sbrscnds]

There are no Sicilian Muslims today. The island was, for 200 years or so largely Muslim but once the island's control switched, then the people were given the choice; convert, or leave.

we are not talking if there are muslims or not and that is not the point of the topic at all and we are not talking about SIcilians, we happened to talk about SIcilians cuz my friend above is Sicilian otherwise it could be Albanian, Arab, Egyptian, Algerian, Iraqi etc etc....

Just read the thread one more time.

[Wvq9InTM]

I personally think ethnicity is more important than religion, as I do not think religion is essential and I think it causes more harm than good.

[Elelaytet]

My religion and my ethnicity are interwoven. I respect other faiths and I am interested in other cultures.

The correct answer is to say religion is more important, but as an imperfect human being who spends far more time dealing with people than with God, It's not so simple. So, I say both.

[dodadaxia]

For the sake of a fuller, more harmonious, more holistic life I think ethnicity and religion/philosophy/ideology must be as near as possible to each other.

Our (human) spiritual life, so to say, started out when being a part of a certain ethnic group meant having that group's beliefs.

[Shiplyopidomi]

I personally think ethnicity is more important than religion, as I do not think religion is essential and I think it causes more harm than good.

Ethnicity is essential?

So you are against race-mixing by default, correct?

[ForumMasta]

My religion and my ethnicity are interwoven. I respect other faiths and I am interested in other cultures.

The correct answer is to say religion is more important, but as an imperfect human being who spends far more time dealing with people than with God, It's not so simple. So, I say both.

I am very aware that your ethnicity and religion are interwoven but that is not the case with the rest of Ethnicities, there are Christian Arabs, there are Christian Egyptians, there are Christian Albanians etc etc...

If you say your religion is more important then you immediately deny that you are brother to the ones that you are only linguistically, culturally and Genetically related but you say you are brother to the ones that share the same religion and Ethnic Brotherhood doesn't exist.

I also say both even though I have hard time how can I like both then I think maybe I don't like both that much and I don't care.

I also have hard time to believe myself when I say I put both of them in the same place, it is mind puzzling when I start thinking which one should be put first.

I personally think ethnicity is more important than religion, as I do not think religion is essential and I think it causes more harm than good.

OK that was a good answer, this means that you are an atheist, aren't you ???

[johnsonjunior]

Ethnicity is essential?

So you are against race-mixing by default, correct?

no, of course not.

[geaveheadeNox]

no, of course not.

So if neither ethnicity nor religion are essential to form a community/society then what common identification is??

Humanism ~ ideological?

[AbraxiaAsus]

I am very aware that your ethnicity and religion are interwoven but that is not the case with the rest of Ethnicities, there are Christian Arabs, there are Christian Egyptians, there are Christian Albanians etc etc...

And I share my faith with them and can bond with them as kindred spirits.

If you say your religion is more important then you immediately deny that you are brother to the ones that you are only linguistically, culturally and Genetically related but you say you are brother to the ones that share the same religion and Ethnic Brotherhood doesn't exist.

I also say both even though I have hard time how can I like both then I think maybe I don't like both that much and I don't care.

It's a very complicated question, eh?

I truly feel for the Christian Albanians who came to Sicily and to Southern Italy to flee Islam. On the surface one would have surmised that they had chosen their religion, and yet they have managed to kept their ethnicity, whereas they compromised on their Orthodox faith and became Catholics, while they remain Albanians, five hundred years later... and yet, they can't really go back to Albania now. It's not their homeland anymore.

I also have hard time to believe myself when I say I put both of them in the same place, it is mind puzzling when I start thinking which one should be put first.

I concur.

[Mmzmptvk]

being against race mixing doesn't mean hating the other races or wanting to preserve your own race doesn't mean you hate the others, ethnicity doesn't mean that you hate the other races or ethnicities.

I understand why people mix and i got no problem with that and I understand why people don't want to intermix and I got no problem with them neither since this is a personal choice.

[alecaf]

I have a preference for Mediterranean/Latin Catholic women.

Human beings created race, so saying that race mixing should be forbidden is against human nature. In Africa, we were all brothers and sisters.

I am no longer willing to date women who do not belong to the Christian faith, nor women who are from entirely alien cultures. The cliche of "opposites attract" doesn't work for me.

[sandracuk]

And I share my faith with them and can bond with them as kindred spirits.


It's a very complicated question, eh?

I truly feel for the Christian Albanians who came to Sicily and to Southern Italy to flee Islam. On the surface one would have surmised that they had chosen their religion, and yet they have managed to kept their ethnicity, whereas they compromised on their Orthodox faith and became Catholics, while they remain Albanians, five hundred years later... and yet, they can't really go back to Albania now. It's not their homeland anymore.


I concur.

there are many many many Christian Albanians in Albania and Kosova and 2ice as more as there are in Italy and they don't have any problems and no one is discriminating them.

So you feel kindred to the people that have your same religion and you would intermix with them ( Marriage, friendship etc.. ) which automatically falls in contradiction what Ethnicity stands for ( preserving your linguistic, cultural, racial, traditional values ).

isn't this somehow messed up???