[ropinirole]

Your answers private! I shoulda made it multiple choice, oh well. The Native Americans were all born here and they're American citizens so the first option includes them too.

So who's Native American in your view? I think anyone that's born in America (the country, duh) is Native American as in being native to the land even though they're not the Indian Americans. keep the thread straight forward and clean please. I have a headache and I'll get pissed off if I see dumb comments.

na·tive/ˈnātiv/
Noun: A person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not.
Adjective: Associated with the country, region, or circumstances of a person's birth.

[xiaoselangone]

Everyone who has been born and raised in America is American, but the actual Native Americans are of course the Amerindians, that will stay that way for now at least in my eyes. I think on the inside even Americans consider the Amerindians the actual Native Americans, thus the romanticism with them as well.

But I think with time that idea might change, just like the perception of whom Americans are, though this will take a while I think.

I should add that most people might also consider colonial Americans as Native to America, along with the later Italian/Irish migration (I'm not sure if the Irish came later? sorry correct me if I'm wrong) as well.

[niemamczasu]

Everyone who has been born and raised in America is American, but the actual Native Americans are of course the Amerindians

I agree with this.

[HassFks]

Europeans are not native to this land though. Does your 23andMe sight America as your homeland?

I think anyone who has a substantial amount of Native American blood that renders them being more Native than Euro who could not fit in Europe is a Native American.

The word Native means your native to this land. I can't have kids in Ireland and say they are Native Irish, it would make absolutely no sense.

Real Amerindians or First Nations are treated like foreigners in their own land though if they venture out of the reservation.

[Gideleb]

Anyone that has American citizenship is American. It doesn't really matter if they were born here or not, they're just not Native Americans unless they were born here.

[Quigoxito]

Anyone that has American citizenship is American. It doesn't really matter if they were born here or not, they're just not Native Americans unless they were born here.

You do realize that there is an America outside of USA?

And that these artificial borders were drawn by European Colonists.

[Prosocorneliay]

You do realize that there is an America outside of USA?

And that these artificial borders were drawn by European Colonists.

I'm talking about America the country right now and not the continent.

[VotsUtegems]

I'm talking about America the country right now and not the continent.

She is speaking strictly in regards to the United States of America, and they're called Americans whereas people from South America are often referred to either by their place of birth (i.e. Venezuelans) or as Latino/a's. How odd if you actually think about it, everyone from the America's should be called (North/South) American.

Though unlike South America, in the States someone isn't a Texan(dunno?), there actually are big differences between the borders of North and South America, aside from their racial/cultural/ethnic components.

[MwhwF6bp]

The word Native means your native to this land. I can't have kids in Ireland and say they are Native Irish, it would make absolutely no sense.

But what if your kids were to mix with the Irish?What are they going to be called in the future?
The Irish who have Scandinavian blood via the Vikings are considered Irish natives.
It takes time,and one day anybody born in the US is going to be called Native Americans.

People come and die or get mixed together.

[ambientambien]

In the English language this is the case. In the Spanish language Americans are called 'Estadounidenses'. Not that it matter on an Anglophone forum.

[lisualsethelp]

She is speaking strictly in regards to the United States of America, and they're called Americans whereas people from South America are often referred to either by their place of birth (i.e. Venezuelans) or Latino/a's. How odd if you actually think about it, everyone from the America's should be called (North/South) American.

Though unlike South America, in the States someone isn't a Los Angelesans (dunno?), there actually are big differences between the borders of North and South America, aside from their racial/cultural/ethnic components.

Well if USA and Canada were not so European there wouldn't be a difference.
They always confuse Mexico for being South American because they are so "weird and different", but they just have more native blood in them, they still speak a European language.

[Clilmence]

Every native person was not native at some stage of history, so 'nativity' is only the stage in history, not something constant. The only real natives are blacks in Africa, as homo sapiens apparently was born there.
In common perception "Indians' are considered native, but I think it was the case in XVI century, whern Europeans just started arriving, nowadays a person of Euro-descent is as native as Indian.

[Catieliecutty]

Injuns.

most mexicans are mixed (obviously) and its hard to really consider them fully native americans in that sense, but some of these guys from el salvador nicaraqua etc. look like they just stepped off the set of apocalypto hahaha.. i think for those people it would be stupid to consider them anything else other than indigenous.

[WhonyGataxott]

What's going to happen when every single Amerindian is mixed-bred?
Who's going to be labeled Native American?Anybody born in the Americas?

[IoninnyHaro]

The word Native means your native to this land. I can't have kids in Ireland and say they are Native Irish, it would make absolutely no sense.

Real Amerindians or First Nations are treated like foreigners in their own land though if they venture out of the reservation.

na·tive



noun /ˈnātiv/ 
natives, plural


1.A person born in a specified place or associated with a place by birth, whether subsequently resident there or not
- a native of Montreal
- an eighteen-year-old Brooklyn native
in·dig·e·nous



adjective /inˈdijənəs/ 



1.Originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native
- the indigenous peoples of Siberia
- coriander is indigenous to southern Europe
but yeah i get what your saying. native americans=indians.

[AM1VV9r6]

Amerindians were very unlucky they weren't so resistant against smallpox. The overwhelming majority got wiped out. The only reason why they're so rare nowadays.

[Averti$ingGuru]

The first Americans....the Amerindians

[famosetroie]

What's going to happen when every single Amerindian is mixed-bred?
Who's going to be labeled Native American?Anybody born in the Americas?

There is a simple answer for that.

If all black people were to be mixed into white, do they become the new black? No it just means black people are gone now.

So if all natives disappear that means they are gone now, the word does not change.

[PolPitasc]

Last I checked, the landmass of the United States is no longer under the ownership of the West Indians. They lost this land hundreds of years ago, it now belongs to Americans. The colonists and rulers dictate the laws of the land and as such any native born citizen is a Native American by definition. Anyone who says otherwise, is simply a poser. Most of those so-called "Native Americans" have European blood as well, as you already know.

The Aztecs, Mayans, Incas et al were great civilizations which spanned across the American continent however today the descendants of those people are generally far too admixed to claim much nativity in the first place. We refer to the modern Indians as "Native Americans" only out of respect for their past suffering. Real Americans= Modern US citizens, as you said.

[baskentt]

Aztecs, Mayans and Incas. The reason why so little is left of their advanced civilisations is because their population thinned out. Well, the Incas didn't have a writing system, because the Aztecs were too far removed from them and hard to reach due to climatology.