[LkEHaduy]

Jimi Hendrix

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whether you like him or not .

Well I don't like him and technically he's not Afram. Even if he was an Afram, I wouldn't consider him to be one of the greatest. Sure he's good at rallying the sheep with slogans like "change", "hope", "progress", "we" and "us", but being able to herd the masses well doesn't constitute greatness in my book. The United States has a long history of populist demagogues so he's nothing special.

[ariniaxia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix[COLOR="Silver"]

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Well I don't like him and technically he's not Afram. Even if he was an Afram, I wouldn't consider him to be one of the greatest. Sure he's good at rallying the sheep with slogans like "change", "hope", "progress", "we" and "us", but being able to herd the masses well doesn't constitute greatness in my book. The United States has a long history of populist demagogues so he's nothing special.

Jimi Hendrix's rendition of The Star Spangled Banner was one of the most innovative guitar performances I ever heard.

Not only has he been among the worst US presidents, Obama may be the most overrated man in the history of mankind.

[DumErrory]

The reason I have posted a picture of Obama is because you said
1/ I'm starting this thread so that members can list their favorite American figures of African descent. Please post a picture of the figures you admire if they haven't been posted already and
2/ I created this thread to talk about the greatest Afram contributors to American (and Western) culture and history. I believe he meets all the above highlighted criterias .
Situational awareness my brotha , I got plenty

[Vjwkvkoy]

The reason I have posted a picture of Obama is because you said
1/
and
2/
I believe he meets all the above highlighted criterias .
Situational awareness my brotha , I got plenty

He's a contributor to American history. Whether or not his contribution (becoming the first "black" president) constitutes greatness is a matter of opinion and the quality of scale you use to measure greatness. Furthermore, I said Afram contributors. Obama is not an Afram. Obama, at the most, was adopted by Aframs. Afram is a term used to identify an ethnic group that was formed in the United States during the slave trade and who are mostly descended from West Africans. The term is often used on this forum because it is more specific than the term 'African American'. I hope that you now have a better awareness of the situation.

[dalnecymync]

Mr African American man , I apologize for ever contributing to your thread , peace .

[giturbewan]

I'm starting this thread so that members can list their favorite American figures of African descent. Please post a picture of the figures you admire if they haven't been posted already. Also tell us why you admire them. I'll start with a few of my own.

Buffalo Soldiers

You admire former slaves that fought for their previous owners against the native americans? What is there to admire?

[DumbNelmcrece]

These should be the top of the list, without their effort and endurance of paving the way, there would not have been a Barak Obama

Harriet Tubman
Frederick Douglass
George Washington Carver
Benjamin Banneker
W.E.B Du Bois
Richard Wright
Jame Baldwin
Charles R Drew
Lena Horne
Malcolm X


The list is endless, I would not consider Michael Jordan or any sport figure today, the great accomplishments of African Americans, that is rather a insult of the fighting heroes of the past.

Here is a list of African American Congressional representatives in United States History, i must admit, i was rather surprised how long the list really is!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African...tates_Congress

[Bonioners]

Josephine Baker!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephine_Baker

[agiopwer]

Obama in African American and will only make into the greatest because historically he is the first, but performance wise no.

The best are Malcolm X, MLK, the Black Panthers[before COINTELPRO infiltrated them], Madame CJ Walker, the Tuskegee Airmen, Nat Turner, Denmark Vesey, Gabriel Prosser, David Walker, WEB DuBois.

[bestonlinepharmasy2]

Obama in African American and will only make into the greatest because historically he is the first, but performance wise no.

The best are Malcolm X, MLK, the Black Panthers[before COINTELPRO infiltrated them], Madame CJ Walker, the Tuskegee Airmen, Nat Turner, Denmark Vesey, Gabriel Prosser, David Walker, WEB DuBois.

Colorist DuBois, dissin' Fatha Garvey! I guess you have not read what Garvey said about him.

[JoZertekAdv]

Colorist DuBois, dissin' Fatha Garvey! I guess you have not read what Garvey said about him.

The beef between DuBois and Garvey centered around two things, DuBois didn't believe Aframs should have to go back to Africa and number two DuBois hated the fact that Garvey sat down and talked with white racist Klansmen who believe back to Africa was the solution.

[jhfsdhf]

The beef between DuBois and Garvey centered around two things, DuBois didn't believe Aframs should have to go back to Africa and number two DuBois hated the fact that Garvey sat down and talked with white racist Klansmen who believe back to Africa was the solution.

So that's why he had to call him a black monkey? DuBois came off very much so as a 'mulatto' elitist and he believed in colorism hierarchy. Garvey went into his church and DuBois had the light skinned people up front and the dark skinned people in the back.

[adverwork]

Its hard not to become racist against 'European Americans' when reading all kind of atrocities they have committed. God give me patience.

[deethythitoth]

So that's why he had to call him a black monkey? DuBois came off very much so as a 'mulatto' elitist and he believed in colorism hierarchy. Garvey went into his church and DuBois had the light skinned people up front and the dark skinned people in the back.

BS, Garvey equally referred to DuBois with similarly racially charged insults:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Garvey#Criticism

Garvey suspected Du Bois was prejudiced against him because he was a Caribbean native with darker skin. Du Bois once described Marcus Garvey as "a little, fat black man; ugly, but with intelligent eyes and a big head." Garvey called Du Bois “purely and simply a white man's nigger" and "a little Dutch, a little French, a little Negro … a mulatto … a monstrosity.” This led to an acrimonious relationship between Garvey and the NAACP. Garvey accused Du Bois of paying conspirators to sabotage the Black Star Line to destroy his reputation.

[Avgustslim]

Yeah they threw shots at each other. DuBois just seemed to cater more to mixed Blacks though.

[N95FzmMw]

Yeah they threw shots at each other. DuBois just seemed to cater more to mixed Blacks though.

DuBois was NAACP, which catered to ALL blacks of all hues. He was a Pan-Africanist.

[Quick$bux]

DuBois was NAACP, which catered to ALL blacks of all hues. He was a Pan-Africanist.

With lights in the forefront. National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People. UNIA= Universal NEGRO Improvement Association. Which one sounds MORE Pan-African?

[griddle]

With lights in the forefront. National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People. UNIA= Universal NEGRO Improvement Association. Which one sounds MORE Pan-African?

All blacks in America were called "colored" not just mulattoes, come on man. The NAACP came together because of lynching primarily.

[avitalporatova]

With lights in the forefront. National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People. UNIA= Universal NEGRO Improvement Association. Which one sounds MORE Pan-African?

How is Garvey's memory regarded in Jamaica today? I remember reading somewhere that the UNIA had chapters in Cuba and the DR at one point. I'll have to investigate more on this, though.

[c2siOlIk]

All blacks in America were called "colored" not just mulattoes, come on man. The NAACP came together because of lynching primarily.

Yeah yeah but you have to admit the UNIA was the most Pan-African of the two.

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How is Garvey's memory regarded in Jamaica today? I remember reading somewhere that the UNIA had chapters in Cuba and the DR at one point. I'll have to investigate more on this, though.

Garvey is a Jamaican national hero so he is remembered positively and honored by Rastafari as a prophet. The Bobo Shanti house of Rastafari even consider him part of the holy trinity.