[HenriRow]

There is a colony of Basque people that have been living in Nevada, USA since the days of the Gold Rush and still hold their culture



Check it out, interesting video!

[greekbeast]

As I saw in the video, they still keep basque language! AMAZING!

Anyway, it's hard to me to separate one ethnic group from its "natural zone". In fact, basque people are very close to nature, mountains, rivers...

[AncewwewBus]

that is interesting. something i did not know

[Gymngatagaica]

They arent many people in numbers. Some basque people mainly from french Basque Country, Northern Navarra, and Bizkaia went as shepherds to Wyoming, Nevada, Idaho and California in 1940-50-60. Other basques (mainly bizkaians) went to Australia to cut sugarcane in Queensland in those ages.But in my opinion these emigrations to America-Australia werent very big, and most of them returned to Basque Country.

[eduptultyt]

"There are at least two things that clearly can be attributed to Basques: the Society of Jesus and the Republic of Chile".
Miguel de Unamuno.

[geaveheadeNox]

"There are at least two things that clearly can be attributed to Basques: the Society of Jesus and the Republic of Chile".
Miguel de Unamuno.

I can say something.

Firstly, Unamuno was not basque in a ethnic and linguistical way (I know he was born in Basque Country).

Secondly, Unamuno was a jeacobin who hated all languages different from spanish, calling them sharply "dialectes".

Thirdsly, Unamuno would be surprised if he lived right now and realized how communism, and not christianims no more, is the most extended ideology in Basque Country.

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They arent many people in numbers. Some basque people mainly from french Basque Country, Northern Navarra, and Bizkaia went as shepherds to Wyoming, Nevada, Idaho and California in 1940-50-60. Other basques (mainly bizkaians) went to Australia to cut sugarcane in Queensland in those ages.But in my opinion these emigrations to America-Australia werent very big, and most of them returned to Basque Country.

In fact, since Industrial Revolution in XIXth century, Basque Country has been a land of receiving people and not leaving.

[shkarpet$]

Unamuno was ethnic Basque, stop saying your typical nonsense.

[ricochettty]

Unamuno was far more basque than those Amaiur "perriflautas" and PNV "carcas".

[bp9QxekG]

Unamuno was far more basque than those Amaiur "perriflautas" and PNV "carcas".

Firstly, "Miguel" is not a basque name. There is a basque version of this name, Mikel, but he was named by the spanish one. That's got an important meaning.

Secondly, he did not speak basque. In fact, as I said, he despised all languages different from spanish.

Nowadays, he would be from the far-right party Partido Popular or something like that. Like Miguel �ngel Blanco (who was not basque either).

Coming back to the thread, I'm glad about those basque groups around the world but I think they are minories because - as I said - Basque Country has been an industrial land where their people haven't had need to leave.

[Qesomud]

Firstly, "Miguel" is not a basque name. There is a basque version of this name, Mikel, but he was named by the spanish one. That's got an important meaning.

Secondly, he did not speak basque. In fact, as I said, he despised all languages different from spanish.

Nowadays, he would be from the far-right party Partido Popular or something like that. Like Miguel �ngel Blanco (who was not basque either).

Coming back to the thread, I'm glad about those basque groups around the world but I think they are minories because - as I said - Basque Country has been an industrial land where their people haven't had need to leave.

Pff. Try to find basque sounding names among XIX basque people...(Sabino -a very basque name- Arana wasn't as familiarized with basque language as Unamuno was) He knew euskera and was one of the intellectual fathers of the II Republic. He was a libertarian critical with the monarchy, the carlists, the red revolutionary way taken by the Republic -no es esto, no es esto...- and the autocracy that followed the civil war -franquism-.

"Inscitia, omnis arrogantiae mater est" (google it and learn something...you are welcome)

[CelexaNY]

He may study basque language a little, like a biologist studies a fly, but he did not speak it. Personally, to me Unamuno was a fucking idiot... due to the things he told about my country. Anyway, this is not the subject of this thread...

Firstly, I've been in Basque Country learning the language. I've been in Donosti, Beasain, Lazkao, Idiazabal... treating with basque people. I know what's a basque.

Secondly, I don't understand your first comment about Amaiur and PNV. Everybody knows that ethnic basque vote for basque parties, while "maketos" vote for PSOE and PP. Are you aware of the differences between Hernani and Irun?



Don't try to give me lessons about basque, please... Ondo ibili!

[G8whlTAe]

Don't try to give me lessons about basque, please... Ondo ibili! Am I giving lessons about basque language? Wow, you must be in LSD. Anyways, I bet your knowledge is anechdotical, given you don't know how to write proper catalan.

Your "everybody knows" fits only in Walt Disney productions.

Unamuno didn't know basque a little:

"Estas diatribas de Unamuno provocaron su leyenda de antivasco, hasta el punto de que un actual académico de Euskaltzaindia llegó a decir hace 20 años que "no podÃ*a ser un buen vasco si no hablaba euskera". Unamuno opositó a la cátedra de este idioma en el Instituto de Bilbao junto a Resurrección MarÃ*a de Azkue, que fue el nombrado, y propio Sabino Arana, y escribió en euskera tanto en prosa como en verso. "

RidÃ*cula.

On topic (basques in Nevada, this name sounds familiar to me...)

http://www.abc.es/20101117/cultura-c...011181729.html

[mikaelluioy]

Most people of Basque ancestry in Canada speak French.

[P3bWjm1j]

Spanish nationalists and Cinderella always fighting.Unamuno was basque born, and had basque ancestors, but I doubt that he knew speaking basque. I would consider him basque. But saying that Unamuno was more basque than Amaiur voters is false, because Amaiur gipuzkoan-bizkaian promedy voters are problably the most etnically autoctonous basque. The party which havent many "basque" vote is clearly PSOE which is based in spaniard inmigrant vote. Cinderella, Hernani isnt a good example of basque autoctonous vote. Hernani, and Pasajes are exceptions , where town mostly populated by spaniard inmigrants vote basque separatists. The rest of the towns( Lasarte, Iun, Eibar, Zumarraga, Ermua,Portugalete, etc ) are mainly socialist, or regionalist PNV voters like in Bilbao.

But this thread is about basques in America, not about Unamuno.

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Most people of Basque ancestry in Canada speak French.

Because most of them come with french colonization of Canada hundreds of years ago. They are not recent basque inmigrants. In Latinamerica there are millions of people with basque surname, but they are as basque as Curro Jimenez.

[TobaccoNUE]

No, Perikolez, I'm not a (nor Sakarisker) spanish nationalist and Unamuno knew basque language. But yes, let's stay on topic.

[Fertionbratte]

I can say something.

Firstly, Unamuno was not basque in a ethnic and linguistical way (I know he was born in Basque Country).

Secondly, Unamuno was a jeacobin who hated all languages different from spanish, calling them sharply "dialectes".

Thirdsly, Unamuno would be surprised if he lived right now and realized how communism, and not christianims no more, is the most extended ideology in Basque Country.

Umm okay.. thanks..

[nikolapegayyyaasss]

information point...

curro jimenez.



unamuno.



wasn't unamuno who said to franquist ...'vencereis pero no convencereis'? (you will win but you will not convince).

[TCjwwhcY]

Because most of them come with french colonization of Canada hundreds of years ago. They are not recent basque inmigrants. In Latinamerica there are millions of people with basque surname, but they are as basque as Curro Jimenez.

This is true. I am actually of Basque ancestry myself.