[Suvaxal]

Socioeconomic factors aside which leads to premature deaths in black people.
Blacks age much slower than white people and they dominate a lot of sports. Are blacks the healthiest race?

Physically, practically everyone ages more slowly than white people. I've seen Asians talk about this as well. Hell, I'm 20 and my hairline is starting to recede. It has nothing to do with general health or life expectancy, though.

Also, I don't really get how you can just brush off socio-economic factors and violence when it has such a huge influence on black people's life expectancy worldwide.

[hubua990]

The black guy got the everloving shit beaten out of him.

And, actually, they're not the same age. Vietnam Tom Bruso is nearly 70.

Have You heard that He's technoviking father?

[10traistintarry]

Physically, practically everyone ages more slowly than white people. I've seen Asians talk about this as well. Hell, I'm 20 and my hairline is starting to recede. It has nothing to do with general health or life expectancy, though.

Also, I don't really get how you can just brush off socio-economic factors and violence when it has such a huge influence on black people's life expectancy worldwide.

Stress,junk food and pollution also have a contribution,and all of these are found in plenty in highly developed countries.

[DownloadADOBEsoftware]

Socioeconomic factors aside which leads to premature deaths in black people.
Blacks age much slower than white people and they dominate a lot of sports. Are blacks the healthiest race?

Not true.
Studies show that affluent middle & upper end Blacks still had a higher rate of premature sudden death syndrome.

Blacks are born sooner with a shorter gestation period. Blacks are born with a lighter birth weight.
Blacks walk earlier, Blacks stand up earlier, Blacks reach puberty earlier, Blacks reach menopause earlier.

Blacks are setup to not live as long. All of those traits are also more common in Chimpanzees.
Chimpanzees have a higher sudden death syndrome, shorter gestation period & lighter birth weight, earlier puberty & menopause
& Chimpanzees also stand up earlier & walk earlier ect.

Chimpanzees even in captivity don't & can't live as long as the average human. So it shows it is largely genetic.

[Shemker394]

Not true.
Studies show that affluent middle & upper end Blacks still had a higher rate of premature sudden death syndrome.

Blacks are born sooner with a shorter gestation period. Blacks are born with a lighter birth weight.
Blacks walk earlier, Blacks stand up earlier, Blacks reach puberty earlier, Blacks reach menopause earlier.

Blacks are setup to not live as long. All of those traits are also more common in Chimpanzees.
Chimpanzees have a higher sudden death syndrome, shorter gestation period & lighter birth weight, earlier puberty & menopause
& Chimpanzees also stand up earlier & walk earlier ect.

Chimpanzees even in captivity don't & can't live as long as the average human. So it shows it is largely genetic.

No it does not, it only shows that you are not bright.

You can't conclude in your arm chair 'pseudo-science" that loose (imagined with no real backing data or formal study) correlation is causation.



All my grandparents but one lived to be over 80, one had a stroke at 60 and died (grandmother)...everyone else lived very long, longer than the average white person.

Blacks also as stated have less genetic disease, and things like high blood pressure and heart disease are not necessarily "racial" the variation is too wide to be associated with race (as already shown)...

Keep trying to prove blacks are lower apes though...

Typical

Typically pathetic.

[JAMES PIETERSE]

Blacks have less genetic diseases, that I'm aware of, or is it that white people are just studied more?

Blacks die more of chronic diseases.

''healthy" really has nothing to do with "sports ability" that is a dumb comparison, many champion athletes die early and in poor health, due to the constant strain on their bodies at a very young age.

Blacks often die younger than Asians or whites, but it is almost always due to chronic diseases that have to do with diet and exercise, the living standards are different, so it is hard to compare across the board.

Like I said, when looking at genetic illnesses, whites (and secondary Asians) seem to manifest a lot more, the only one I can think of for blacks that is somewhat common in Sickle Cell Anemia, but "Sickle Cell Trait" is a genetic benefit, it is two copies that make you sick, and most people don't die from it, they just have a painful life when it flares up (but it is not a constant thing, not like M.S., Tay-Sachs, etc).

Sickle cell anemia is a genetic disease. Is quite common in blacks. far more common than most of the so called white genetic diseases.
Lupus is higher in blacks.

Blacks have higher blood pressure because they are more sensitive to the adrenal hormone aldosterone which increases salt retention / uptake.
So essentially Blacks can eat less salt & have more of an effect from it. Which gives them more hypertension.

Blacks laos have higher diabeties blood sugar risks. Along with higher prostate & lung cancer risks.

The socio economic status of Black Americans is not so bad. The black american medianhouseholdincome is closer to the level of Scotland,Ireland & the European Union than it is to the white american income.
The black american income is on par with Singapore & Hong Kong. Not exactly very bad. But, Blacks in america do largely have a third world like lifestyle filled with mediocrity. But, that is largely genetic.

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No it does not, it only shows that you are not bright.

You can't conclude in your arm chair 'pseudo-science" that loose (imagined with no real backing data or formal study) correlation is causation.



All my grandparents but one lived to be over 80, one had a stroke at 60 and died (grandmother)...everyone else lived very long, longer than the average white person.

Blacks also as stated have less genetic disease, and things like high blood pressure and heart disease are not necessarily "racial" the variation is too wide to be associated with race (as already shown)...

Keep trying to prove blacks are lower apes though...

Typical

Typically pathetic.

The data shows upper end blacks still have an elevated risk of sudden infant death syndrome?

The study showed that blacks had a higher sensitivity to aldosterone which helps with salt retention.
Which right there increases hypertension. (Duh)
It is likely because most of the African population sweated much more because of the heat leading to more loss of salt & with most African populations being inland they typically did not have as much salt intake. Thus, this is likely why blacks have elevated salt retention from elevated aldosterone levels.

You can go look it up yourself.
A number of factors show blacks are closer to chimpanzees. Which includes a higher twinning rate, a higher genetic diversity, a shorter gestation period & yet a quicker period to walk.
In both cases this was more common in blacks than whites & more common in chimpanzees than in blacks.
In the same statistics show east asians are further from blacks than whites.

I don't think you can explain why Chimpanzees have the highest twinning rates, & the shortest gestation period & the quickest time to walk, then with Blacks, Then whites, & Then East Asians on the opposite end with the lowest twinning rates, longest gestation period & longest period to walk.

Sorry that is largely genetic.

[DurryVony]

Why do you keep lying, I have already showed on this site, that blacks do not have higher blood pressure, are you fucking illiterate, read the goddamn study results you low rent bastard.

Blacks can eat less salt, blacks have blah blah blah hormone.

Idiot, read the study, if that is true, than Caribbean blacks would have as high a rate of High Blood Pressure and black Americans would not have lower rates than many Western Europeans, Germans have over 1/3 more higher rates of HB than black Americans...

Jamaicans are poorer than black Americans, white Americans, and EU people, thanks. Germans is the largest economy in the EU...

Thanks.

Higher diabetes rates does not mean "genetic disease" it means inability to digest certain sugars, because they did not have that in their diet. That is like calling lactose intolerance a "genetic disease", get the fuck out of here.

WTF are you talking about "sweat" more salt? Please quote something please...

Caribbean blacks live in the tropic, black Americans, most of whom live in Subtropical South, they all sweat quite a bit, it is not like they live in Scotland or most blacks live in Toronto. LOL

If you really want to test your theory look at high blood pressure rates of blacks in Canada (most of them are of Caribbean origin) and see if their lack of "sweating" increases their BP, LOL Get the fuck out of here..

Sickle Cell Anemia is not common.

Please state how common it is? Then compare to common genetic diseases found in whites.

You stating some bullshit, does not make it so.

I have been black all my damn life and don't know one black with Sickle Cell Anemia and I'm certain I know far more blacks than you...it is not common at all.

And wtf is alfieb thanking you for being a illiterate retard???

I'm not interested in twinning, gestation, etc. I'm talking about health stats, don't draw in various bullshit out of your ass with no "cites" to confound the issue. Stay on topic, if you can't there is medication for that.

[P9CCd35R]

Why do you keep lying, I have already showed on this site, that blacks do not have higher blood pressure, are you fucking illiterate, read the goddamn study results you low rent bastard.

Blacks can eat less salt, blacks have blah blah blah hormone.

Idiot, read the study, if that is true, than Caribbean blacks would have as high a rate of High Blood Pressure and black Americans would not have lower rates than many Western Europeans, Germans have over 1/3 more higher rates of HB than black Americans...

Jamaicans are poorer than black Americans, white Americans, and EU people, thanks. Germans is the largest economy in the EU...

Thanks.

Higher diabetes rates does not mean "genetic disease" it means inability to digest certain sugars, because they did not have that in their diet. That is like calling lactose intolerance a "genetic disease", get the fuck out of here.

WTF are you talking about "sweat" more salt? Please quote something please...

Caribbean blacks live in the tropic, black Americans, most of whom live in Subtropical South, they all sweat quite a bit, it is not like they live in Scotland or most blacks live in Toronto. LOL

If you really want to test your theory look at high blood pressure rates of blacks in Canada (most of them are of Caribbean origin) and see if their lack of "sweating" increases their BP, LOL Get the fuck out of here..

Sickle Cell Anemia is not common.

Please state how common it is? Then compare to common genetic diseases found in whites.

You stating some bullshit, does not make it so.

I have been black all my damn life and don't know one black with Sickle Cell Anemia and I'm certain I know far more blacks than you...it is not common at all.

And wtf is alfieb thanking you for being a illiterate retard???

I'm not intereste
d in twinning, gestation, etc. I'm talking about health stats, don't draw in various bullshit out of your ass with no "cites" to confound the issue. Stay on topic, if you can't there is medication for that.

http://ezinearticles.com/?High-Blood...ans&id=4386054

Many theories exist about why black Americans experience higher levels of hypertension disease than other groups. One major study suggested a connection between high levels of uric acid and hypertension among blacks as a possible explanation. Researchers and medical professionals already know that excessive levels of uric acid are a major cause of kidney disease. African Americans also experience higher levels of kidney disease.

Other theories include a failure by bodily systems to eliminate excessive salt in the urine and the presence of higher levels of the hormone aldosterone.



The gestation period does matter. For humans have a longer gestation period than almost any other animal our size & yet we live longer.
& the gestation period is higher in East Asians who live the longest.

It is not just gestation period.
Chimpanzees & Blacks walk sooner, reach puberty sooner & reach menopause sooner.
It shows that Whites & East Asians are setup to mature later & also live longer.

[Mister.levitra]

http://ezinearticles.com/?High-Blood...ans&id=4386054

Many theories exist about why black Americans experience higher levels of hypertension disease than other groups. One major study suggested a connection between high levels of uric acid and hypertension among blacks as a possible explanation. Researchers and medical professionals already know that excessive levels of uric acid are a major cause of kidney disease. African Americans also experience higher levels of kidney disease.

Other theories include a failure by bodily systems to eliminate excessive salt in the urine and the presence of higher levels of the hormone aldosterone.



The gestation period does matter. For humans have a longer gestation period than almost any other animal our size & yet we live longer.
& the gestation period is higher in East Asians who live the longest.

It is not just gestation period.
Chimpanzees & Blacks walk sooner, reach puberty sooner & reach menopause sooner.
It shows that Whites & East Asians are setup to mature later & also live longer.

THis is Polsky Mac...only he writes in that retarded way, keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again...

[Narkeere]

I actually thanked the wrong post, to answer your question.

[ReggieRed]

THis is Polsky Mac...only he writes in that retarded way, keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again...

Why do chimpanzees have a shorter gestation period & don't live as long.

Why because chimpanzees are not setup to live as long.

This is why blacks also have a shorter gestation period & don't live as long.

Sorry but it is largely genetic.

A short gestation period & yet an earlier time to walk in both Blacks & Chimpanzees shows how blacks are setup to mature at a quicker rate & die at an earlier age.

These are facts & reality.

Not the fantasy land of racial biological equality that the liberal idiots have put forth.

[Anteneprorid]

Why do chimpanzees have a shorter gestation period & don't live as long.

Why because chimpanzees are not setup to live as long.

Humans have a longer childhood, which partly explains our long life per nature (disregarding deaths due to injuries, poison, starvation etc). You have to put the different stages in life into consideration when you talk about cross-species longlivety.

[errolurberozy]

Yep Polsky Mac...please someone check his IP and compare the location it is coming from, even if it is not the same IP to Polski Mac and his last reincarnation as that "Slavic Polish Warrior" whatever the hell his name was...

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Why do chimpanzees have a shorter gestation period & don't live as long.

Why because chimpanzees are not setup to live as long.

This is why blacks also have a shorter gestation period & don't live as long.

Sorry but it is largely genetic.

A short gestation period & yet an earlier time to walk in both Blacks & Chimpanzees shows how blacks are setup to mature at a quicker rate & die at an earlier age.

These are facts & reality.

Not the fantasy land of racial biological equality that the liberal idiots have put forth.

Why is it you keep coming back to a site, to troll when you are not wanted? Your self esteem that low? If I was banned from a site, I would not come back, fuck them.

You act like a bitch. All that drug induced weight lifting is a cover for you closet homosexuality.

[dafodilkemmy]

Humans have a longer childhood, which partly explains our long life per nature (disregarding deaths due to injuries, poison, starvation etc). You have to put the different stages in life into consideration when you talk about cross-species longlivety.

Yes I agree.
Humans have a longer lifespan for our highly developed brains take much longer mature.
This is also why we have longer gestation periods. Because our highly developed brains also takes longer to develope in the womb.
We also walk later than chimpanzees because we are actually likely born too soon compared to our developement. So essentially we are underdeveloped in proportion to our maturity when we are born.
So it leaves us unable to walk as early as chimpanzees.
As a result of our larger more developed brains taking longer to develope we reach puberty later & as a result reach menopause later &
therefor live longer.

So, when Blacks are born sooner, walk sooner, reach puberty sooner & reach menopause sooner it shows that blacks are also not setup to live as long. Much like chimpanzees are not.

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Yep Polsky Mac...please someone check his IP and compare the location it is coming from, even if it is not the same IP to Polski Mac and his last reincarnation as that "Slavic Polish Warrior" whatever the hell his name was...

---------- Post added 2010-08-24 at 11:15 ----------



Why is it you keep coming back to a site, to troll when you are not wanted? Your self esteem that low? If I was banned from a site, I would not come back, fuck them.

You act like a bitch. All that drug induced weight lifting is a cover for you closet homosexuality.

Ad hominem much? I see this PolskiMoc slav polish warrior has hurt your feelings very deeply huh?

But, back to the facts.

Chimpanzees have a 4 times higher genetic diversity than humans, Blacks have a higher genetic diversity as well.

The differences in genetic diversity are parrel.

Here is your positioning of Blacks compared to Chimpanzees. Whites are very close to East Asians. While Blacks are quite far from both East Asians & Whites,.
Genetic Diversity.
Chimpanzees more, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Twinning rates
Chimpanzees more, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Gestation period
Chimpanzees shorter, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Birth weight
Chimpanzees lighter, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Head size at birth
Chimpanzees smaller, Blacks, Whites, East asians
Time it takes to stand up & crawl
Chimpanzees shorter, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Puberty menarche reached
Earlier in Chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Menopause reached
Earlier in Chimps, Blacks, Whites, East asians
Life spans
Quicker in Chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Brain size
Smaller in chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
IQ
Lower in Chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Violence
Higher in chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Myopia which is shown to increase iq by 8 points
Lower in chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians

[viagsjicguara]

now that he is gone, can we get back to a normal discussion?

[Cajlwdvx]

now that he is gone, can we get back to a normal discussion?

LOL.

Polski when not using extreme racial prejudice is a good poster, I recall having a good exchange with him about physics and astronomy! But when it goes to race, ethnicy and etc.. wow.. he always gives a bad trip to all!!

[Pataacculakp]

Wait. Did EasyMac just say East Asians are the master race? I think he did.

[tyclislavaify]

No,when they are doing good their women are super-fat,when they are doing bad their women are fat or starving to death; japanese live long and healthy lives,due to diet and sports,*stereotype mode on* fried chicken isn't good for your health.

But African-Americans aren't even real Black people to begin with, if you're going with purity.

African Black (socioeconomic factors aside, so look at a healthy tribe that's not war-strickem) women are by FAR more fit than Japanese or any other Mongoloid.

This may seem anecdotal but I think it's exceedingly clear that Blacks are the most healthy and robust race alive. Naturally fittest, best muscle tone, best cardio, much lower likelyhood of disease, extremely slow aging, etc. etc. etc.

Oh, and btw Nomar, bodyfat =/= health. Someone who's physically fit (as in cardio + muscle) but chubby is MUCH healthier than somebody who's thin but not really muscular i.e. a typical white girl on a diet. And Mexican-American chics by default tend to just be unhealthy because they're more often than not borderline obese AND physically unfit. Read up if you don't believe me.

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The black guy got the everloving shit beaten out of him.

And, actually, they're not the same age. Vietnam Tom Bruso is nearly 70.

A social rarity. 1st time I've witnessed such an event in my entire 20 years, and please believe I've seen the reverse more times than I can count on my hands. Have you ever witnessed death before?

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Yes I agree.
Humans have a longer lifespan for our highly developed brains take much longer mature.
This is also why we have longer gestation periods. Because our highly developed brains also takes longer to develope in the womb.
We also walk later than chimpanzees because we are actually likely born too soon compared to our developement. So essentially we are underdeveloped in proportion to our maturity when we are born.
So it leaves us unable to walk as early as chimpanzees.
As a result of our larger more developed brains taking longer to develope we reach puberty later & as a result reach menopause later &
therefor live longer.

So, when Blacks are born sooner, walk sooner, reach puberty sooner & reach menopause sooner it shows that blacks are also not setup to live as long. Much like chimpanzees are not.

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Ad hominem much? I see this PolskiMoc slav polish warrior has hurt your feelings very deeply huh?

But, back to the facts.

Chimpanzees have a 4 times higher genetic diversity than humans, Blacks have a higher genetic diversity as well.

The differences in genetic diversity are parrel.

Here is your positioning of Blacks compared to Chimpanzees. Whites are very close to East Asians. While Blacks are quite far from both East Asians & Whites,.
Genetic Diversity.
Chimpanzees more, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Twinning rates
Chimpanzees more, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Gestation period
Chimpanzees shorter, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Birth weight
Chimpanzees lighter, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Head size at birth
Chimpanzees smaller, Blacks, Whites, East asians
Time it takes to stand up & crawl
Chimpanzees shorter, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Puberty menarche reached
Earlier in Chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Menopause reached
Earlier in Chimps, Blacks, Whites, East asians
Life spans
Quicker in Chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Brain size
Smaller in chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
IQ
Lower in Chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Violence
Higher in chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians
Myopia which is shown to increase iq by 8 points
Lower in chimps, Blacks, Whites, East Asians

Only a true dunce would consider order as somehow significant. If Chimp scores 10, Blacks 2.5, Whites 1 and Asians .5, Blacks are by FAR more similar to other Humans than Chimps. To even include chimps in the comparison is just so retarded it's really incredible you can even operate a keyboard Polski. Then again, we don't know how many you go through a day...

[WournGona]

okay had to make an account to post on this

In my experience (I worked and known a lot of black people because my mom is friends with a lot and I've worked with a lot too) - blacks don't age looks wise, you can be like 60 and still look 40, and 40 and look in your 20s as a black, weight wise I think the proportion is same as whites, perhaps blacks have slight more heavier people, but the youth are in very good shape unlike American white kids who sit around all day doing nothing *ahem*

Health wise as in aliments and going to the doctor, I think they (American blacks I speak of) are somewhat poorer than other races, which mostly has to do with a historical diet that actually effects long term generations - that's what school taught me anyways.

[Extinimot]

In my experience (I worked and known a lot of black people because my mom is friends with a lot and I've worked with a lot too) - blacks don't age looks wise, you can be like 60 and still look 40, and 40 and look in your 20s as a black, weight wise I think the proportion is same as whites, perhaps blacks have slight more heavier people, but the youth are in very good shape unlike American white kids who sit around all day doing nothing *ahem*

Health wise as in aliments and going to the doctor, I think they (American blacks I speak of) are somewhat poorer than other races, which mostly has to do with a historical diet that actually effects long term generations - that's what school taught me anyways.

Hey, good post bruh. Welcome.