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Old 09-11-2011, 08:04 AM   #1
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Default What do you consider to be Black?
Just SSAs or is it more broad to you? I know some people also consider Aborigine Australians and some Asian groups to be Black.

What is Black to you?
Also, do you consider Halle Berry Black or mixed? What do you think about the ODR? Do you consider mixed raced people with SSA admixture black?
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:06 AM   #2
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SSAfricans and Black South Americans (even though some of them would be seen as mixed and not Black)
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:07 AM   #3
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Anyone of 70% of SSA ancestry or more, and groups who resemble SSA like Melanesians.


I consider Aboriginies and dark skinned Indians Black too, just of a different type of Black from SSA.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:09 AM   #4
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People of African descent. Other dark skinned people (Indians, natives etc), are just what they are. In my mind, I guess due to my cultural upbringing, black = African.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:09 AM   #5
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If someone has significant enough African ancestry to be visible, I would consider them Black.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:11 AM   #6
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SSAs I guess. Also NW blacks that are typically mixed like Aframs and Afro-Caribbean people. I consider Aborigines to be their own thing.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:13 AM   #7
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Anyone of 70% of SSA ancestry or more, and groups who resemble SSA like Melanesians.


I consider Aboriginies and dark skinned Indians Black too, just of a different type of Black from SSA.
This, but 70% changed to detectable
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:15 AM   #8
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I forgot the Andaman Islanders. They are Black too. The general laymen would see these people as Black.

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Old 09-11-2011, 08:16 AM   #9
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Africans and their Diaspora.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:16 AM   #10
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It might be considered slightly off-topic but do African-Americans see East Africans such as Somalians, Eritreans and Ethiopians as "Black"?

To your question, "Black" to me is a person who traces his/her ancestry to the South of the Sahara and possesses "Afrotropical" traits such as "wooly" hair, elongated limbs, a broad nose and subnasal prognathism.

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Old 09-11-2011, 08:17 AM   #11
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I forgot the Andaman Islanders. They are Black too. The general laymen would see these people as Black.

Hell's yeah...
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:17 AM   #12
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What about Horn Africans? I consider them Black, but I know quite a few people who don't think they are Black including Aframs who do not view them as Black. Horn Africans in my area sometimes get mistaken for Middle Eastern or South Asian by Aframs because they do not fit their concept of Black. I remember I had a friend from Ethiopia who was very offended when people didn't think she was Black and she got into it with this Afram girl who thought she was lying because she said she was from Africa. It was a very ignorant sight. The girl was like, "You're not African. Girl you Indian."
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:19 AM   #13
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It might be considered slightly off-topic but do African-Americans see East Africans such as Somalians, Eritreans and Ethiopians as "Black"?
I do, because they are also Sub Saharan Africans, just of a different type from West Africans and thier descendants in the New World.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:21 AM   #14
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Would Tamils pass as blacks in US?
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:22 AM   #15
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Anyone of 70% of SSA ancestry or more, and groups who resemble SSA like Melanesians.

I consider Aboriginies and dark skinned Indians Black too, just of a different type of Black from SSA.
This..... with Andaman Islanders, "Negritos", and Papuans added
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:22 AM   #16
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It might be considered slightly off-topic but do African-Americans see East Africans such as Somalians, Eritreans and Ethiopians as "Black"?

To your question, "Black" to me is a person who traces his/her ancestry to the South of the Sahara and possesses "Afrotropical" traits such as "wooly" hair, elongated limbs, a broad nose and subnasal prognathism.

Regards.
I'm not African American, but I see Ethiopeans and other North Africans as black, but somehow consider Moroccans "brown". I'm not sure why.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:22 AM   #17
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I forgot the Andaman Islanders. They are Black too. The general laymen would see these people as Black.

http://images.lightstalkers.org/imag...a_03_large.jpg
Do you consider Indians to be Mulattoes then? They are basically 30-60% 'Andaman-like' + West Asian.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:23 AM   #18
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Would Tamils pass as blacks in US?
With the right haircut

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Do you consider Indians to be Mulattoes then? They are basically 30-60% 'Andaman-like' + West Asian.
If you put it like that...Then, yeah...

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I do, because they are also Sub Saharan Africans, just of a different type from West Africans and thier descendants in the New World.
Agreed
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:28 AM   #19
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Black doesn't equal negroid, some South-Indians can be named black or ''black-ish'' without having negroid ancestry at all.
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:28 AM   #20
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For me it's not so much phenotype, but moreso anyone with visible or somewhat visible SSA admixture who adopts mannerisms that are Afram-like or is totally Aframized.

I would call this despite the latter looking way more Afram/black.
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