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Old 08-30-2011, 07:14 AM   #1
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Default Facebook Photo of White Man with Black Child's Body Shocks South Africa
Don't know whether others on this forum have read the article, but it was posted on another forum too:
A photograph uploaded on Facebook of a white South African man posing like a hunter near an apparently lifeless body of a black child has created a furore as South African police try track him down.


The man has a Facebook user profile with the name "Eugene Terrorblanche," an apparent play on the name of Eugene Terreblanche, an extremist Afrikaner leader murdered last year, and has 590 "friends" as of Saturday. Authorities are yet to confirm the authenticity of the undated picture and have not ruled out the possibility of photograph manipulation.

According to the South Africa Sunday Times, which first reported the story, the search is now on for the person or persons responsible for the picture, for whoever created the user profile and for those who have seen the photograph but failed to report it.

Surprisingly, the photo was uploaded June 24, 2010, but went little noticed until now. It took more than a year to be spotted by authorities as none who saw the picture reported it or posted a comment condemning it.

Regardless of whether the picture is fake, "everyone party to the posting" and those who have viewed the image are under a potential prosecution threat, authorities said.

Human rights groups have expressed their concern for the child in the picture who could have been wounded or dead.

The director of Women + Men Against Child Abuse, Miranda Jordan, said she found it "incredibly disturbing" not knowing the child's fate.

"I couldn't believe what I was seeing ... this is sickening and disgusting. Is this child hurt? Is he dead? Who would take this kind of picture?" she said. "This hate image incites racism that almost all South Africans have fought so hard to eradicate."

Minister of Police Nathi Mthethwa's spokesman, Zweli Mnisi, said the minister has ordered an "immediate investigation" and called on the man in the picture - or anyone who recognized him - to come forward to assist in the probe.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/2051...ser-invest.htm Any thoughts?
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:20 AM   #2
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Disgusting, if he has killed or wounded the kid, but I resent the labelling of Eugene Terre'Blanche as an Afrikaner extremist; he was a Boer patriot. He was a great man, and nothing any of his followers have done or will do will detract from that fact in my mind.

It could all be a hoax.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:22 AM   #3
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Disgusting, if he has killed or wounded the kid, but I resent the labelling of Eugene Terre'Blanche as an Afrikaner extremist; he was a Boer patriot. He was a great man, and nothing any of his followers have done or will do will detract from that fact in my mind.

It could all be a hoax.
Yes of course, the pic could be fake, but the idea in itself is already disgusting enough.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:25 AM   #4
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Yes of course, the pic could be fake, but the idea in itself is already disgusting enough.
It is disgusting, but disgusting enough to warrant prosecution of all involved? And apparently the idea of involvement will be stretched far and wide to include all who have viewed the picture and not reported it to the police.

Plus if the guy has shot a Black kid in the veld, who is going to be able to prove anything? There will be hundreds or thousands of missing Black kids of that age in South Africa and the body, assuming he was dead, will have disintegrated by now.

He could just say, "I paid a Black boy to pose for the photo".
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:25 AM   #5
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Disgusting! Hopefully the police will find him. When they do find him ^he should be tortured for life!
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:30 AM   #6
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I hope this guy enjoys the unemployment line. However, the kid will be on it too when he gets older and I think that kind of sucks for him because now he is too young and not mature enough to know any better.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:30 AM   #7
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If it is faked as I think it is, the photo is in very bad taste. According to one news report, the photo was previously investigated and the "hunter" told the police that the child was paid to pose. Now that it has been publicized in the media, of course it is a whole new issue and has to be investigated all over again.

If it is real, I personally can't see any sane person letting his face be shown in such a picture. Why not just turn himself in?
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:37 AM   #8
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It is disgusting, but disgusting enough to warrant prosecution of all involved? And apparently the idea of involvement will be stretched far and wide to include all who have viewed the picture and not reported it to the police.

Plus if the guy has shot a Black kid in the veld, who is going to be able to prove anything? There will be hundreds or thousands of missing Black kids of that age in South Africa and the body, assuming he was dead, will have disintegrated by now.

He could just say, "I paid a Black boy to pose for the photo
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You make valuable points there. But whether it's worse enough to prosecute that whole set of people is depending on relative terms, South-Africa is not (Western)Europe, they don't hold on to western standards that much(different system).
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:44 AM   #9
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I'm pretty sure the picture is fake, hence my unemployment line comment, since posting that kind of stuff on Facebook has those ramifications.

Also, "Eugene Terrorblanche" is borrowed from an obscure Die Antwoord track dissing Eugene TerreBlanche. Seems like a sick joke. Very sick I might add.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:46 AM   #10
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You make valuable points there. But whether it's worse enough to prosecute that whole set of people is depending on relative terms, South-Africa is not (Western)Europe, they don't hold on to western standards that much(different system).
Their legal system is intriguing, mainly because they did inherit part of the old British system. As I understand it one has a right to trial by a jury of their peers, the double jeopardy rule still exists there (unlike in Britain anymore ) etc so they are a largely Anglo influenced country in terms of their legal system.

As for how the law is enforced in practice, I would imagine that prosecutions and sentences are politically motivated in many cases and that the strict Montesequeian separation of the judiciary and the executive is non-existant. If the ANC leaders want a criminal to suffer they will ensure he does, if they want him to go free or to be treated with lenience they will ensure that happens.

Look at Johan Nel, 169 years IIRC. Then look at the pitiful sentences doled out to rapists, gang-affiliated murderers, drug dealers, child abusers, those orchestrating the Boer genocide (aka farm murders). Nel offended the new status quo, just as Mandela offended the old one, and just as the Apartheid gov't ensured the book was thrown at Mandela so did the ANC ensure Nel suffered.

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I hope this guy enjoys the unemployment line.
I'd employ him lol, to pick off looters if the rioting kicks off here again.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:49 AM   #11
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I think it's fake too.
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Old 08-30-2011, 07:59 AM   #12
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JPEGSnoop says it's been edited:



GIMP features prominently on that list, but it's impossible to tell just from this whether it has been faked in particular, or just cropped, or the lighting adjusted, etc.

Edit: Obviously the black rectangle over the child's face is part of the editing, but that could easily be done in Paint. After doing some comparisons, the most striking thing about this photo is the number of different camera signatures. I also noticed that the "GIMP" signature is present in all photos, edited or unedited, so that's probably a false alarm.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:02 AM   #13
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^^
Cool application
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:04 AM   #14
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It does seem fake, but the fact that someone would edit a photo to get such a result for the sake of humour/genuine hate is quite disturbing. Anything that involves a distressed/abused/dead child (or even an adult, but the sight of a child is more impacting) is a complete red line, IMHO..
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:06 AM   #15
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I'd employ him lol, to pick off looters if the rioting kicks off here again.
He doesn't even look in good enough shape to do that.

Not saying I am the model of fitness, though.

Anyways, at one of my old jobs I had the power to hire people and did interviews. If he showed up, I wouldn't hire him because of that photo (there are also people on Anthroforums I wouldn't hire) no matter how well qualified he was. If he has bad enough judgement to post such a picture, I can only imagine what he would do with very powerful software that has global ramifications if it screwed up.

The kid? Hmmm... up in the air. He is immature, judgement may change. Might hire him but watch his ass like a hawk in the probationary period. However, I am young enough to be experienced with social media and that judgement lapses are possible on it. Older people who do the hiring and don't understand social media as well, for sure would throw his resume in the trash without thinking about it.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:09 AM   #16
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it looks edited, look at back of the head of kid, it looks cut
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:16 AM   #17
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Agreed looks fake. pretty bizzare stuff man hah.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:18 AM   #18
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He doesn't even look in good enough shape to do that.
Perhaps but he doesn't look like he would have any qualms about putting a few looters down.

Not saying I am the model of fitness, though.

Anyways, at one of my old jobs I had the power to hire people and did interviews. If he showed up, I wouldn't hire him because of that photo (there are also people on Anthroforums I wouldn't hire) no matter how well qualified he was. If he has bad enough judgement to post such a picture, I can only imagine what he would do with very powerful software that has global ramifications if it screwed up.
What software did you work on? And agreed if he killed the kid he's a murderer, if he wounded him he's a...wounder? and if it is a hoax then he has poor judgement at best.

The kid? Hmmm... up in the air. He is immature, judgement may change. Might hire him but watch his ass like a hawk in the probationary period. However, I am young enough to be experienced with social media and that judgement lapses are possible on it. Older people who do the hiring and don't understand social media as well, for sure would throw his resume in the trash without thinking about it.
Which is why I'd never put a picture of myself doing anything dumb on the internet.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:23 AM   #19
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What software did you work on? And agreed if he killed the kid he's a murderer, if he wounded him he's a...wounder? and if it is a hoax then he has poor judgement at best.
I worked for a major investment bank on their securities and convertible bonds trading software (think, evil mortgage backed securities). A typo could cause the DOW to drop and the global economy to go with it (it happened because of a glitch at another bank, a year or so ago, and my mother called to ask me if it was me ). Stressful as hell job, and you don't want somebody with poor judgement there. I screwed up a few times, luckily it was only in the test environment - which I once totally broke and ended up giving a bunch of people the rest of the day off because they had nothing to do till it was fixed.

Which is why I'd never put a picture of myself doing anything dumb on the internet. Good idea.
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:35 AM   #20
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I worked for a major investment bank on their securities and convertible bonds trading software (think, evil mortgage backed securities). A typo could cause the DOW to drop and the global economy to go with it (it happened because of a glitch at another bank, a year or so ago, and my mother called to ask me if it was me ). Stressful as hell job, and you don't want somebody with poor judgement there. I screwed up a few times, luckily it was only in the test environment - which I once totally broke and ended up giving a bunch of people the rest of the day off because they had nothing to do till it was fixed.
Which one? My dad has worked for quite a few (mainly JP Morgan) but he worked on clearinghouse stuff though, boring as f*** but it pays handsomely.
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