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Old 06-30-2011, 12:24 AM   #21
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Also the Voodoo guy seem kind of stereotypical, like if African culture is only voodooo and withcraft.
Well ok, first you complain there is nothing Africans can relate to, then they try to stick in something from the African tradition, and you complain that it's too stereotypical.

So what would be your suggestion then? What is something that African Americans could relate to, without it looking like they were "trying to be white?"
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:26 AM   #22
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Yeah, that bothered me too.

What I don't understand is why people keep saying she was "trying to be white". Can somebody please explain to me what it means to "try to be white"?
it that the movie was based in Russian culutre, it doesn't fit an Afrma character to be in a movie based on Russian tradition, it would be like a black person doing the role of marie Antoniette.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:27 AM   #23
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Yeah well I think they wanted to make a movie that a large audience could relate to and it ended up turning into a mess. Its hard to cater to everyone and this sometimes leads to people trying to throw everything in one pot when it does not always have to be this way. I think that if you made a movie based off African Tales a lot of Aframs would be interested but many other non Afram groups might feel unconnected with the themes.
Other groups have sat through Cinderella,Snow White,Little Mermaid,Beauty and the Beast,etc. If it's a good movie...then I think people of all cultures can like it.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:28 AM   #24
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it that the movie was based in Russian culutre, it doesn't fit an Afrma character to be in a movie based on Russian tradition, it would be like a black person doing the role of marie Antoniette.
You mean the frog part, then. OK, I can see that.

It did seem a little forced.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:29 AM   #25
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Well ok, first you complain there is nothing Africans can relate to, then they try to stick in something from the African tradition, and you complain that it's too stereotypical.

So what would be your suggestion then? What is something that African Americans could relate to, without it looking like they were "trying to be white?"
Its a tough to make a definition that would seem appropriate everything is going to be under fire from someone and not everyone can be happy with presentations. It is best to just paint as accurate as a picture as possible so the greatest amount of people can relate to it and the others who can not well I suppose it was just not meant for their tastes. I think Heidegger said it best the modern age is the age of inauthenticity it lacks the ability to speak poetically because it has lost its sense of awe and wonder because it tries to cram everything into a single Gestalt.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:29 AM   #26
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Well ok, first you complain there is nothing Africans can relate to, then they try to stick in something from the African tradition, and you complain that it's too stereotypical.

So what would be your suggestion then? What is something that African Americans could relate to, without it looking like they were "trying to be white?"
Something stereotypical, that is what non-African thinks about african culture, withcraft, voodoo, poverty, there is much more to African culture than just voodoo, they must do research, but I think they were too lazy and just tought that they would "make us happy" with only putting black characters and putting a voodoo villain on a movie.They should have tried something not stereotypical.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:30 AM   #27
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Other groups have sat through Cinderella,Snow White,Little Mermaid,Beauty and the Beast,etc. If it's a good movie...then I think people of all cultures can like it.
I suppose so but I think blacks relate best to things when they see the characters portrayed as black with an Afram style that is added to it. There is a unique family structure that defined each racial group and a particular style which each group is subconsciously attracted to. I am sure Aframs and other groups enjoyed European inspired fairy tales but it probably was not their style subconsciously whether they want to admit or not.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:31 AM   #28
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You mean the frog part, then. OK, I can see that.

It did seem a little forced.
And the dresses, too European and everything, Aframs can't relate to that, a princess with an Euro gown and crown and the prince who had a white pheno but black skin.Those are what Afrmas think as Europeanized Africans.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:34 AM   #29
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I suppose so but I think blacks relate best to things when they see the characters portrayed as black with an Afram style that is added to it. There is a unique family structure that defined each racial group and a particular style which each group is subconsciously attracted to. I am sure Aframs and other groups enjoyed European inspired fairy tales but it probably was not their style subconsciously whether they want to admit or not.
A motherland base Disney film would connect all Blacks. Take it back to Africa.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:35 AM   #30
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Something stereotypical, that is what non-African thinks about african culture, withcraft, voodoo, poverty, there is much more to African culture than just voodoo, they must do research, but I think they were too lazy and just tought that they would "make us happy" with only putting black characters and putting a voodoo villain on a movie.They should have tried something not stereotypical.
Its hard to go outside the norm and relate to individuals or groups. Each individual has his interpretations of the norms and stereotypes applied to certain groups and some of them might not be true, might be partially true, or totally true. In the end the group reacts best to the norm or stereotypes that is applied to them it sort of allows them to keep to a group identity and the Creole culture is very diverse and probably does not represent every Afram group in America very well.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:36 AM   #31
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And the dresses, too European and everything, Aframs can't relate to that, a princess with an Euro gown and crown and the prince who had a white pheno but black skin.Those are what Afrmas think as Europeanized Africans.
I hate that ish.

Well said j.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:36 AM   #32
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A motherland base Disney film would connect all Blacks. Take it back to Africa.
The Lion King was more realisitc in what African culture is than the princess and the fFog.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:37 AM   #33
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A motherland base Disney film would connect all Blacks. Take it back to Africa.
That might be more authentic but what would Aframs say when they see that dresses are not the standard norm in Africa they might be a little culturally shocked. Personally Aframs have their own unique flavor which connects them with Blacks from Africa but there are cultural understandings that differentiate them and make them more Modern. A lot of Aframs are partially European as well so its not like they understand SSA Ideas as well as the SSA's do.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:37 AM   #34
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The Lion King was more realisitc in what African culture is thn the princess and teh frog.
It was and it was an awesome film. Now I just need an African film with some PEOPLE
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:38 AM   #35
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I loved Lion King.

But Princess and the Frog wasn't supposed to be African, it was supposed to be African- American.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:38 AM   #36
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The Lion King was more realisitc in what African culture is thn the princess and teh frog.
Definitely so and it was less racial connotative than this movie was. I know that all thoughts of race go out the window when the lens are focused on a single race from the perspective of that race.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:38 AM   #37
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I have watched that movie with my 6 years old little sister in the theatre and that was a very ridiculous movie all of them had straight hair and caucasoid features,I thought she was African American not somali,the price looked Arab/hindu rather than African
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:39 AM   #38
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I loved Lion King.

But Princess and the Frog wasn't supposed to be African, it was supposed to be African- American.
The question should be what is African American there might be a lot of different interpretations that can be attached to that but it seems to me that the average African American is sort of Europeanized in their ways although they might not recognize it at least the ones in the middle and upper classes.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:41 AM   #39
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That might be more authentic but what would Aframs say when they see that dresses are not the standard norm in Africa they might be a little culturally shocked. Personally Aframs have their own unique flavor which connects them with Blacks from Africa but there are cultural understandings that differentiate them and make them more Modern. A lot of Aframs are partially European as well so its not like they understand SSA Ideas as well as the SSA's do.
I think neither the Princess and the Frog doesn't repesnet Afrmas flavor either.They must do the research if they don't want to be criticized.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:42 AM   #40
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It was a liberal movie I think its one of the movies you have to face palm for. Makes you think what the leftist are trying to feed to our children. Its alright that Blacks want their own fairy tales surrounded around them although its quite exotic because the concept of fairy tales is mainly a European one. I think though when they portray it in a way like they did so in that movie it makes you wonder if Blacks are not happy with who they are and want to pretend to be white which I don't thin is authentic. Overall some of the characters were accurately depicted accept for that one white guy who was like the paige of the King it looked there was a little Irish discrimination going on there.
that's not 100% true Middle Easterns also have that concet 1001 nights remember,Middle Easterns also probably invented that concept
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