[makemoneyonli]

Which is more important to you - your gender or your race?
I mean we are all obviously very interested in race here but which one is more important to you? just for fun I want to see what people say. Do you hold more value in your gender or in your race/ethnicity.

[q9h9pPne]

My gender is more important to me, definitely. Being a woman has obviously shaped the person I am much more than my race has and that makes it more important. I've never segregated based on race, but I've been segregated based on gender, and that's pretty normal and common.

[xanonlinexan]

Gender. Because of the unfortunate fact that life is HELL for females in the Third World/Outer Rim.

[alenbarbaf]

i was born with both a gender and a race.

my mentality and my culture is more important than both of them.

[doxinwasido]

Gender. I believe gender shapes my identity more than my race or ethnicity.

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Gender. Because of the unfortunate fact that life is HELL for females in the Third World/Outer Rim.

Think about that statement for a moment. Is life for women in the Third World really worse than life for men in the Third World? Do the men in these countries not suffer to defend their families from criminals, fight in horrific wars, get tortured, get murdered like they're disposable, prefer to starve before letting their wives and children go hungry, etc?

[chzvacmyye]

Gender. Being a female would require worries about make-up, clothes and going through childbirth. Life is a bit easier for a man in those departments. Oh and not having a penis is no fun

[suingincentix]

Gender. I believe gender shapes my identity more than my race or ethnicity.

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Think about that statement for a moment. Is life for women in the Third World really worse than life for men in the Third World? Do the men in these countries not suffer to defend their families from criminals, fight in horrific wars, get tortured, get murdered like they're disposable, prefer to starve before letting their wives and children go hungry, etc?

Yes, but we have some alleviating thing called male privilege, which comes from our societies being heavily pathriarchic in nature. With duties come a lot of rights for us, but for them females it's mostly duties more than anything.

[emexiagog]

Gender. I believe gender shapes my identity more than my race or ethnicity.

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Think about that statement for a moment. Is life for women in the Third World really worse than life for men in the Third World? Do the men in these countries not suffer to defend their families from criminals, fight in horrific wars, get tortured, get murdered like they're disposable, prefer to starve before letting their wives and children go hungry, etc?

Life is hard in general in the third world but life is harder for a third world women....that's a fact.

[leflyCode]

Yes, but we have some alleviating thing called male privilege, which comes from our societies being heavily pathriarchic in nature. With duties come a lot of rights for us, but for them females it's mostly duties more than anything.

What rights do men in the Third World have that women don't have?

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Life is hard in general in the third world but life is harder for a third world women....that's a fact.

Please detail those hardships?

[Filling25]

What rights do men in the Third World have that women don't have?

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Please detail those hardships?

a) For starters, it's unlikely that affairs involving men of power a la Dominique Strauss-Kahn would have been exposed at all.

b) In corporate places, men and women with the same Curriculum have differing salaries, favoring the former more than the latter.

c) Despite the progress made on legislation, violence against women (specially of the domestic kind) remains rampant.

d) Single mothers are very common nowadays compared with decades past.

And a very long and painful etc.

[G8whlTAe]

i already have like three genders anyways, so race is what I identify predominantly with.

[MwhwF6bp]

a) For starters, it's unlikely that affairs involving men of power a la Dominique Strauss-Kahn would have been exposed at all.

b) In corporate places, men and women with the same Curriculum have differing salaries, favoring the former more than the latter.

c) Despite the progress made on legislation, violence against women (specially of the domestic kind) remains rampant.

d) Single mothers are very common nowadays compared with decades past.

And a very long and painful etc.

Do you have any studies on the differing salaries between men and women in your country? I ask because people nowadays often assume that if there is inequality of outcome between groups it must be due to unjust discrimination. I would like to know how many hours those women work and what exactly they do as compared to their male counterparts.

Is domestic violence against women a moral norm in your country? In my country, it's practically acceptable for women to hit men. Women are also more likely to use weapons when they abuse men. Men are even prosecuted for defending themselves against violent women. Check out these statistics on domestic violence against men.

So single motherhood is only the fault of men in your view? It has nothing to do with the decisions of irresponsible females who bear children with irresponsible men? It has nothing to do with contemporary moral norms which accept single motherhood and promiscuous women who have children out of wedlock as a norm?

Is this really what makes life hell for women as compared to men in these countries?! How do the hardships you mentioned measure up to the hardships I mentioned for men? Does being more likely to be murdered, sent to war, tortured and sacrifice your own life for the life of women and children count for nothing?

Patriarchy

Domestic Violence

[Audi_z]

Both

[O25YtQnn]

Another fun fact from China:
It has been reported that there has been an outbreak of domestic violence in China involving Chinese women committing violence against Chinese men. In 2003 10% of violence in families involved male victims. The wives beat their husbands, and some cut off their penises. In Wuxi in Jiangsu province a man had his penis cut off by his wife.

On July 21, 2008, the All China women's Federation reported that in Nanjing, China, it was reported that several wives cut off their husband's penis because they could not stand that their husbands were gambling or cheating on them. These are classified as a "crime of impulsion" by prosecutors in Nanjing, because the women go through an "emotional crisis". Most of these female criminals were younger than 35, and receive only a suspended sentence or one below three years, and are sent back home. Feminism is Western civilization's greatest cultural export!

[EntectCelpelm]

Do you have any studies on the differing salaries between men and women in your country? I ask because people nowadays often assume that if there is inequality of outcome between groups it must be due to unjust discrimination. I would like to know how many hours those women work and what exactly they do as compared to their male counterparts.

Regrettably, I don't have any studies at hand regarding my country, but from what some private sector colleagues of mine have told me, a male economist working for any of the banks based on the country can be paid US$5,000 per month, while a female counterpart doing the same wins only half that. Sadly, we don't have the salaries paid per worked hour regime you people have in the States, so people here tend to work 8-9 hours a day, five days a week.

Is domestic violence against women a moral norm in your country? In my country, it's practically acceptable for women to hit men. Women are also more likely to use weapons when they abuse men. Men are even prosecuted for defending themselves against violent women. Check out these statistics on domestic violence against men.

In the capital, it's a mixed bag, but in the provinces it's a moral norm, specially among the peasantry. If a woman commits adultery, it's expected of the man to hit her, and even kill her and the male rival, depending on the time she has spent cheating. Now, if a man is adulterous, he's more often than not seen as a "macho man" and a modellic citizen of the community, even though people might rail against him on the pulpit.

So single motherhood is only the fault of men in your view? It has nothing to do with the decisions of irresponsible females who bear children with irresponsible men? It has nothing to do with contemporary moral norms which accept single motherhood and promiscuous women who have children out of wedlock as a norm?

Yes, because the majority of the males here dislike using condoms at the moment of making the old in-and-out, so they frown on the female whenever the woman demands them to put it on. Regrettably, lack of education (and self empowerment) makes women here be unable to discern when the man she's dating is a scumbag. I'm talking about the lower classes, of course, cuz' women from the middle classes and up are pretty much liberated and westerrnized.

Is this really what makes life hell for women as compared to men in these countries?! How do the hardships you mentioned measure up to the hardships I mentioned for men? Does being more likely to be murdered, sent to war, tortured and sacrifice your own life for the life of women and children count for nothing?

Patriarchy

Domestic Violence

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I apologize if I exaggerated on my previous post, cuz' I should have pointed out that the cases on the Third World vary between the countries currently at peace and the ones engaged in warfare.