[orison]

The history say that many arab tribes went to "Jazira" region of Mesopotamia (Mosul, Sinjar, Hatra and other cities in north). Al-Hatra (Al-Hedhar) was the capital of Kingdom of Araba the arabs went to these places 3 century B.C. They live there much before arab muslins, when muslins came majority of populations in Mosul was arab and christians. Is very likely that christians from Mosul are descendant of ancient arab tribes that live in this areas since Kingdom of Araba and neighbors of assyrians villages in nineveh plains. For this i ask Is Mosul and Region more arab than lebanese people?
Today Mosul people Majority are arab but with minority of Kurds and turkmans that come to live in mosul after 1930.

For me Mosul People (maslawi) is more arab than lebanese people.

[AnthonyKing]

I would say that when Muslims came to the region the people living there were predominantly of local descent mixed with some Arab tribes that had settled in the area over the preceding centuries. Are they more Arab than Lebanese people? I would say yes if you're comparing them to Lebanese Christians; I'm not sure if that would be the case with Lebanese Muslims, esp. the ones in the south of the country. In comparison to other Iraqi Arabs, they probably have more local Mesopotamian ancestry than the Arabs in central and esp. southern Iraq.

[acneman]

Is very likely that christians from Mosul are descendant of ancient arab tribes that live in this areas since Kingdom of Araba and neighbors of assyrians villages in nineveh plains.

Today's Assyrians are principally descended from the peoples of North Mesopotamia and its immediate surroundings. But, yes, Assyrians have had deep ties with Arabia, for at least as long as they have identified by the self-appellation Assurayu/Suraya.

Arabian admixture, following the Fall of Nineveh, and before the rise of Christianity, would not have been an exceptional occurrence, as Assyria had already absorbed Aramaean tribes centuries before the end of the Neo-Assyrian era, and presumably the Arabian elements present in Babylonia in the twilight of the Neo-Assyrian era. These Aramaeans, I reckon, would have been most similar to today's Druze, and some Syrian Arabs.

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i think saddam phenotype is very common among iraqis in the province of nineveh and salahuddin and in deir ez-zor province in syria














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arabs of northwest iraq they look different from arabs of arabia they are more robust and usually quite tall with probably haplogroup j2

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arabs of northwest iraq they look different from arabs of arabia they are more robust and usually quite tall with probably haplogroup j2

Tikrit

As a fort along the Tigris (Akkadian: Idiqlat), the town is first mentioned in the Fall of Assyria Chronicle as being a refuge for the Babylonian king Nabopolassar during his attack on the city of Assur in 615 BC.[2]

Tikrit is usually identified with the Hellenistic settlement Birtha.[3] As Tagrit, it was the seat of the Maphrian of the Monophysites.

Over a thousand years ago, it possessed a fortress and a large Christian monastery. It was renowned as a centre for the production of woolen textiles. The Arab Uqaylid Dynasty took hold of Tikrit in 1036.

The town, and much of Iraq with it, was devastated in the 13th century by the Mongol invasion under Hulagu. 1258 A.D.
Although Hulaku Khan spared the Christians of Baghdad when he sacked the city, he was persuaded by some Arabs that the Assyrians of Tikreet were disloyal. Consequently, one of every twenty men was put to death and his children were taken prisoner.

1369-1400 A.D.: The Coming of Timurlane
The origins of the Assyrian mountaineers in the inaccessible Hakkari region, as well as the disappearance of the Christians of Central and Northern Asia can be attributed to the coming of that scourge of humanity, Timur, known in the West as Timurlane, a corruption of "Timurlenk" (Timur the Lame).

A Turkish tribal leader who claimed decent from Genghis Khan, Timur established his power in 1369 by usurping Chagatni Khan in Samarkand. By 1380, he had directed his armies to Persia. Thirteen years later, he established his reign over Mesopotamia and Persia. After taking the city of Isfahan he ordered the construction of pyramids of over 70,000 human heads, and on the ruins of Baghdad his army built a pyramid of 90,000 heads. The Assyrian Christian city of Tikrit was besieged for weeks by an army of 72,000. As soon as it fell to Timur's army the entire city was devastated...

Timur continued to march north and plundered and murdered thousands of Christians on the way. When all was done, the Assyrian Christian empire was left in ruins, with their Church of the East pushed back to Assyria and its mountains.

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syrian man (looking iraqi) from deir ez-zor province in syria