[KixdricyArrip]

Eight charts that show the glaring inequality between the ultra-rich and the middle class.
Link: http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...ca-chart-graph

So, if these charts approximate reality, is the USA becoming like more like a developing nation rather than a developed nation? Aren't income inequality and plutocracy the main complaints driving revolts in North Africa and elsewhere?

[Imampaictjg]

It is impossible, 90% of the America population lives with US$ 30.000. I dont buy it.

[MiniBoy]

Call me a communist, but I never understood this American attitude to social differences and wealth. I understand that there are loads of Americans who want it to be different, at the end of the day it is why Obama was elected (not because he was black, as somethink). Still though, even these millions seem to accept much bigger inequalities than Europeans. Forget them, the others, like the Tea Party supporters, they think it is cool when one man dies on the street and next to him passes over a limo with shampagne worth more than this man's life- long savings. Its cool cause it is apparently American. i dont think so, about it later.
The most ironic is that many Tea Party supporters are not millionars- friends of Dabja- which is somehow statistically obvious- but very often poor rednecks.
These people support people who robbed them and swallow all this bullshit that if you have a gun and if you shot down an illegal Metizo, you are happy American. In fact, these rednecks have much more common with those illegal immigrants than with their rich patrons. Somehow they dont wanna see it.


Another thing, in theory it comes from this puritan ethos of hard work and ascetic life. How does it relate then to all these bankers, who do not actually work and their life is a bit far from being ascetic?

How can you compare first Americans working day and night and saving money and investing them wisely to those white collar parasites who do not work, just sit on chairs and rebalance accounts to make profits and after work go to strip-clubs, sniff cocaine washing it down with expensive drinks and shag luxury prostitutes and then go back to their billiob-worth mansions to surf hangover with another pill. Is it this old ethos or I missed something on the way?


Dont treat it Americans as an attack on America, in fact it is the oppposite, I like America thats why I care about all this, otherwise it would leave me cold.

Unfortunatelly, this cracked "paraamerican" way of thinking found its way not only to Latin America, but to Eastern Europe as well.

[ScosyGissiok]

Call me a communist, but I never understood this American attitude to social differences and wealth. I understand that there are loads of Americans who want it to be different, at the end of the day it is why Obama was elected (not because he was black, as somethink).

According to a poll i have read (i will search the link) a huge percentage voted of Americans Obama to get out of the ME wars (he failed, also he failed with the economy).

Still though, even these millions seem to accept much bigger inequalities than Europeans. Forget them, the others, like the Tea Party supporters, they think it is cool when one man dies on the street and next to him passes over a limo with shampagne worth more than this man's life- long savings. Its cool cause it is apparently American. i dont think so, about it later.
The most ironic is that many Tea Party supporters are not millionars- friends of Dabja- which is somehow statistically obvious- but very often poor rednecks.
These people support people who robbed them and swallow all this bullshit that if you have a gun and if you shot down an illegal Metizo, you are happy American. In fact, these rednecks have much more common with those illegal immigrants than with their rich patrons. Somehow they dont wanna see it.

My opinion on that:

1) Poverty in America means having a house and a car. There are no starving people in the USA
2) The American lifestyle is a product of the capitalism and the Market economies: prices, jobs and salaries are regulated by the market
3) Exactly Tea Parties and Republicans are supported by the working force, Democrats are supported by the elite or the really lazy people on welfare.
4) Tea Parties want small government, the government was the one that robbed them twice: Bush with the bailout and Obama with the bailout.
5) In Mexico professional people works hard and nothing prices are hight and the cost of the govement is high (Socialism). In America you get what you work and that is even higher than Mexico for the blue collars.
6) As far as America goes trough the socialis the faster the sink.


There are millions of potential job to be created in America, but the problem is the obstacles imposed by the government first the Democrats then the RINOs.

I have heard by an American Worker that they lived better under the right wing Ronald Reagan government than under the Clinton, Obama or Johnson government.
I could not back this but i would like to hear the opinion of any real American in this forum on that.

Could you explain how do a socialist government could help them?

How can you compare first Americans working day and night and saving money and investing them wisely to those white collar parasites who do not work, just sit on chairs and rebalance accounts to make profits and after work go to strip-clubs, sniff cocaine washing it down with expensive drinks and shag luxury prostitutes and then go back to their billiob-worth mansions to surf hangover with another pill. Is it this old ethos or I missed something on the way?

Those parasites you mention,are not businessmen are corrupted people, are supported by the Government (Bailout), the big government the Tea Party opposes.

[zoppiklonikaa]

This is what is great about America! NOBODY is topped off at ANY income level. As an American you can do or become ANYTHING that you want to do and be as successful and as wealthy as you want! Some of those who make less get jealous of those that have gained more thus wanting them to share their wealth, but the majority of those wealthy people earned every penny they have from hard, back-breaking work. Any dream, any idea, any aspiration that one has in America CAN be achieved and there is no one or no government that can stop you. If the writer of that article wants to be wealthier than they are the only thing stopping them is their self.

[mbaueee]

Of course we can talk forever, even Harvard economists go forever with no agreement, but...


1. The myth of "nobody can stop you being as wealthy as you want", what a beautiful fairytale, theres no perpetum mobile in economy, you cannot get endless wealthy without others getting endlessy poor (relatively).
2. how can you earn "honestly" e.g.100 thousand dollars per hour? Its ridicolous.You only take profit of owning something, not bringing any added value. Fact.
3. we are not talking about poverty in terms of central Africa, its a pure nonsense, the article is about inequalities.
4 the big government thing is a myth, in fact the ones who need and use government most are the biggest corporations. a small barber from Louisiana will not get or need any help from the pro-business government, in fact the opposite, he will have to give up his shop cause wall mart or tesco is coming to town, but you cannot mention it cause its against the myth of good flawless capitalism.

Maybe Tea Party Supporters think or believe they are against big government and pro small business, but in fact they let the control in hands of big business and corporations, which not only will not protect small business but will destroy it.

It has been scientificely and empirically proven and its even logical that capitalism has in itself that internal contradiction and with no regulation capitalism leads to monopol.



one question to anyone who is praising inequalities- would the one mind if thw whole America belonged to one man? if there is no top off...