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Old 09-28-2010, 10:14 PM   #1
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Default What is the best Eastern European country to live?
What is the best Eastern European country to live (specially for a person in his early 20s)?

Positive Aspects can be:

1) Security
2) Good Economy, low taxes, (be easy to establish a business is a must)
3) Low Level of the Police State
4) Low level of Corruption
5) Culture level
6) Youthful people,
7) Low population of Gypsies


Im thinking in Romania because the language is easy and the country looks funny another options i am thinking are Poland, Serbia or Russia.

Thanks
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:19 PM   #2
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Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:21 PM   #3
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8) Women

Estonia (asuming that's Eastern Europe)
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:25 PM   #4
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Romania's gypsy pop. is between 2,5%(official)-10%(unofficial,almost same statistic like the rest of the countries around,Hungary and Bulgaria actually have a larger % of gypsies,but it really pisses me off to see some official foreign fuck come and tell the unofficial estimate,like he/she counted the all),most gypsies live segregated from the rest of the communities however but you can see the vermin begging on the streets(near churches or food places).
Culture/touristic wise it offers more advantages to some western latin because of the language,for italians:the italian minority(small but it exists) and the wide variety of landscape. Pussy wise the women are more than ok.

I'd mention Poland or Hungary as having better economies but 1) there are not that much better and you're only interested in that if you make a modest living 2)the languages are really hard to learn and rather unpleasant to the ear 3) not much diversity as compared to Romania.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:30 PM   #5
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It's simple, Czech Republic, than Poland or Hungary.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:32 PM   #6
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It's simple, Czech Republic, than Poland or Hungary.
Czech Rep. is basically a western country.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:35 PM   #7
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I work in Poland. It's not ideal, but I have a good job here. Poland's business infrastructure is also well developed, but the Czech Republic or Hungary might have better standards of living.


3) not much diversity as compared to Romania.
What do you mean by this?
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:57 PM   #8
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Slovenia or Croatia
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:02 PM   #9
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What do you mean by this?
I mean that Czech Rep. if different from Poland,Hungary etc. Czech Rep. is like a slavic speaking western european state,it has a lot more in common with Western Europe than with the East,even if it was part of the Warsaw Pact and a communist country for ~45 years. I can go into detail but I'm sure that you will understand it if I just mention that kings of Bohemia were Holy Roman Emperors and current czech lands were fully part of the Holy Roman Empire.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:33 PM   #10
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Are Slovenia and Czech Republic considered Eastern? If so, it's them.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:42 PM   #11
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Are Slovenia and Czech Republic considered Eastern? If so, it's them.
This map shows the countries of Eastner Europe.
And best Eastner European country to live is maybe Estonia or Czech Republic. Seems to be safe and stable.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:50 PM   #12
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Czech Rep. is basically a western country.
I knew that someone will point this. Poland is in central Europe, not in Eastern, however I know that most people will consider it Eastern. Point of view depends on viewing point.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:54 PM   #13
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This map shows the countries of Eastner Europe.
And best Eastner European country to live is maybe Estonia or Czech Republic. Seems to be safe and stable.
Depends a lot on what you mean by east,to me that map is political division of Europe just because half of it was occupied for 45 years,in fact east would be most of the ex-USSR countries,and not what you showed,if we consider former Warsaw Pact members are East then I wouldn't be surprised if someone comes and says "Hey,East Germany is the best Eastern Country".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ea...rope-small.png
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:00 AM   #14
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I knew that someone will point this. Poland is in central Europe, not in Eastern, however I know that most people will consider it Eastern. Point of view depends on viewing point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Bloc

Former Communist states are considered as Easter Europeans for political reasons, however Poland is geographically in Central Europe.
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:06 AM   #15
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If you look at wealth and safety then i agree with Ezio.
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:19 AM   #16
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1)Chech republic
2)Hungary
3)Slovenia
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:21 AM   #17
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I took the time to check all your criteria,but I mostly used wikipedia as source,so based on wikipedia sources I'll list "best" countries:

Countries with lowest homicidal crime rate,unfortunately I couldn't find crime rate in general,for example Romania has a very low theft rate(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Bucharest) but in this homicide rate list it's rated higher than it's neighbor countries that are worse when it comes to theft:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

Lowest in East Europe are: Poland,Czech Rep.,Hungary.

List of Economic Freedom: http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

Best are: Estonia,Georgia,Lithuania

Police state issues can be more complicated but I choose this list:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indices_of_freedom

Most East Euro countries are the classified as "flawed democracy",the only "full democracy" is Slovenia and Czech Rep..

Corruption: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupt...ceptions_Index

Least corrupt are :Estonia,Slovenia,Hungary.

Human Development Index:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

The only ones to have the "Very High Human Development" are Slovenia and Czech Rep. .

List of countries by median age and fertility rate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_median_age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...fertility_rate

Youngest Median age: Albania,Armenia,Moldova,followed by Macedonia,Slovakia,Romania,Poland.
Oldest Median Age:Slovenia,Bulgaria,Croatia,Serbia.

Most fertile countries: Albania,Montenegro,Serbia,followed by Estonia,Macedonia,Georgia,Moldova.

Lowest Population of Gypsies,and other minorities, is definitely in Poland. Highest number of Gypsies are in Romania,Balkans,Hungary. Largest % are in Bulgaria,Macedonia,Romania. What you have to bear in mind is that gypsies are persecuted almost everywhere in Eastern Europe,the most persecuted are those in Czech Rep. and the least persecuted are those in Romania(probably because of segregation),there are also countries with feverish ethnic nationalism and disrespect of minorities for assimilation purposes,such as Hungary and Slovakia,so the chances of 'gypsies in hiding'/that declare themselves as something else are high in such countries.

"Best" is,according to wiki sources and the requirements: Slovenia with two 1st places and one 2nd place,then Estonia and then the Czech Rep. ,surprisingly all of these were part of the Holy Roman Empire(including Estonia).
After these countries I guess "best" would be a pick between Slovakia,Poland,Hungary/Romania; still kinda early to judge considering none of these countries fully recovered after communism(East Germany still receives economic help from West Germany even after 20 years),ex. poles and romanians had better conditions that spanish and italians before WW2.
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:44 AM   #18
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The ones where people are most Westernized...that would be Czech and Slovakia...

I've been to Czech and Russia, only Slavic nations I've been too, I much preferred the Czech Republic. :-) You can live there and work in Germany, maybe get a higher salary and come back and spend it on beer and bitches. :-)
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:48 AM   #19
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The ones where people are most Westernized...that would be Czech and Slovakia...

I've been to Czech and Russia, only Slavic nations I've been too, I much preferred the Czech Republic. :-) You can live there and work in Germany, maybe get a higher salary and come back and spend it on beer and bitches. :-)
That's the point,isn't it? "what is the best eastern european country?". If it's some ameristan what would be the point of going there in the 1st place if you already live in a place with very similar architecture,lifestyle/cultural life etc.? That's why I consider former Habsburg Empire countries boring,all the basic stuff looks the same everywhere,not much diversity,just my subjective way of thinking.
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:54 AM   #20
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Where eastern europe begins is completely subjective. I tend to associate it with the eastern block. Basically the map Ezio posted. To children born now, their opinion on this will be different because to them the eastern block is a thing of a remote past.
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