[ViktorialHDY]

Cub, what's your ethnicity? Are you hispanic?


It may seem unfair to require some need for Spanish-speaking skills, but the free market does not discriminate. They are paying customers. Businesses who can cater to them as well as to English speakers will be better off than those only serving English speakers. Don't blame the business, blame the weak border security that allows people to enter the country illegally.

That said, there might not be those jobs in the first place without the added demand and economic activity resulting from the immigration. The legal immigration process for this country is pretty bad. The barriers to immigration are unreasonably high, which leads more people to enter illegally instead of through the proper channels.


To those complaining about the tags, this isn't a troll thread, so I'm going to delete trolling tags that show up there. Don't abuse the privilege. Most tags are trolling, anyway, and I'm sure Elias would be happy to restrict them.

[CULTDIAMONDS]

Regarding Texas, I think it depends on where you are in the state. Yes, in hispanic-dominated cities such as San Antonio, knowing Spanish is extremely helpful and sometimes necessary. But in other cities you may do fine with only English skills. For example - I didn't need any Spanish-skills in austin, but when I moved to San Antonio I have almost been forced to learn enough to communicate with some of the people.

Regardless of where you are, if you're in the US you need to learn to speak english. And I tell those people that demand I learn Spanish the same thing... Why should I learn a foreign language? This is the USA not Mexico.

Yeah, I hate that wherever I dial for customer service within the nation it is always followed by "Para Español, oprima numero dos" automated message .

[Bymnbypeten]

Cub, what's your ethnicity? Are you hispanic?


It may seem unfair to require some need for Spanish-speaking skills, but the free market does not discriminate. They are paying customers. Businesses who can cater to them as well as to English speakers will be better off than those only serving English speakers. Don't blame the business, blame the weak border security that allows people to enter the country illegally.

That said, there might not be those jobs in the first place without the added demand and economic activity resulting from the immigration. The legal immigration process for this country is pretty bad. The barriers to immigration are unreasonably high, which leads more people to enter illegally instead of through the proper channels.


To those complaining about the tags, this isn't a troll thread, so I'm going to delete trolling tags that show up there. Don't abuse the privilege. Most tags are trolling, anyway, and I'm sure Elias would be happy to restrict them.

I'm the offspring of a German Texan and a Native Mexican Indian.

That is true the businesses offering service in both languages to make money.
However for American citizens trying to find work that are monolingual, it's unfair. Especially when you can be better qualified, yet a person who is bilingual will get the job.

[plantBanceper]

i couldnt agree with you more.. it kinda annoys me when i go to a drive thru and the lady starts speaking in spanish to take my order.. its allright because im fluent in spanish but i think "what if i didnt speak spanish". because if i go to mexico i dont expect them to know english at all, if i go there i would only speak spanish. and its messed up because i see customers get mad at employees for not knowing spanish.

I've hear this be a common complaint amongst [insert Hispanic ethnicity]-Americans. I don't mind, I enjoy getting a change to speak Spanish in my otherwise Anglo community. People don't tend to start speaking Spanish to me though, I don't look Hispanic enough I guess.

[casinobonbiner]

I've hear this be a common complaint amongst [insert Hispanic ethnicity]-Americans. I don't mind, I enjoy getting a change to speak Spanish in my otherwise Anglo community. People don't tend to start speaking Spanish to me though, I don't look Hispanic enough I guess.

i just think its unfair to people who dont know spanish... especially for american latinos who never learned spanish and are expected to speak it.. i dont think they should be looked down upon because they are more american than anything else.. i am grateful for knowing spanish and i think its great to be bilingual but im not going to force it for people who dont need to speak it because we are an english speaking country.

[Z1IRo4Ap]

i just think its unfair to people who dont know spanish... especially for american latinos who never learned spanish and are expected to speak it.. i dont think they should be looked down upon because they are more american than anything else.. i am grateful for knowing spanish and i think its great to be bilingual but im not going to force it for people who dont need to speak it because we are an english speaking country.

In the areas (cities and states) with a substantial Latino population, the need to know Spanish has grown over the years. My Spanish has actually improved because of more use on the job with Latinos who either don't speak fluent English or prefer to speak Spanish under certain conditions.
But I know what you're talking about. There is the tendency to look down upon Americanized/generational Latinos who don't speak Spanish or don't speak it fluently enough. I've had conversations with these recent immigrants, and its seems they cannot fathom who this can happen, they must think we're genetically programmed to be able to speak fluent Spanish even if we were raised speaking very little of it.

[ManHolDenPoker]

But I know what you're talking about. There is the tendency to look down upon Americanized/generational Latinos who don't speak Spanish or don't speak it fluently enough.

Many Mexican-Americans who don't speak Spanish look down upon Latino immigrants.

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I'm the offspring of a German Texan and a Native Mexican Indian.

What is the Mexican Indian ancestry of one of your parents?

[KlaraNovikoffa]

Many Mexican-Americans who don't speak Spanish look down upon Latino immigrants.

For me it's weird when Dominicans don't speak Spanish, but we're a more recent group and tend to visit the country a lot.

[BrainTop]

For me it's weird when Dominicans don't speak Spanish, but we're a more recent group and tend to visit the country a lot.

Alot of my friends in junior high ,and high school didn't speak Spanish .
Im sure some of them regretted that their parents didn't teach them Spanish .

[soipguibbom]

True. In fact here in my city some jobs require you to know Spanish, and I'm not talking about customer service either. Landscaping and Maintenance jobs often require you to understand Spanish to some degree. Even the Texas Workforce Commission website had some jobs where only "good" English skills were necessary in contrast to "EXCELLENT" Spanish skills.

Being that I am not very fluent in Spanish, that automatically disqualifies me from those kinda jobs. Pretty unfair that our country caters to illegals. And I say that because, if they were here legally they would be able to understand basic English and we wouldn't have to learn their language in order to communicate with them.

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I absolutely believe you. It's not fair to us American Citizens. I wonder how Mexico would feel if we started mass immigration there and refused to learn Spanish. And opened businesses operating ONLY in English.

Well, believe me, there are hundreds of thousands of Americans living in Mexico who speak no Spanish, do have bussineses and interact with each other most of the time because of lack of knowledge of the Spanish language. And yes, there are Americans who do expect people to speak English south of the border because that'll make things easier for them when they travel. They figure it'll be to their advantage if Mexicans and others learned English. But the fact is that in Mexico and in Latin America in general, there are many bilingual people. Many people who work in the tourist industry do speak English, many middle and upper-class people also study English. Being bilingual or trilingual is considered something to be proud of.


In the USA, American born Hispanics all speak English and poor Spanish. I think it's to everyones' advantage to learn more than one language. The USA is in no danger of having any language other than English become dominant. In every country, Americans residing there send their children to American schools where they learn English. I am not aware of any first-class bilingual schools in the USA for the children of the Hispanic population. No, in the USA, for many reasons, even in places that used to be part of Spanish America, English is king. Including Florida.

[JeremyIV]

Florida has a huge Hispanic population overall, but Miami-Dade is the only county where they make up the majority. They make up about sixty percent of the population there. The next largest Hispanic zone is probably Hendry county, where they make up forty something percent. Their distribution in other counties is sporadic, even in the south of the state where they're of course more numerous.

In the counties that neighbor Miami-Dade, they're only about twenty percent. In the very central county of the state, where I live, the Hispanic percentage is in the low teens. But in the rural county just east of us, they make up thirty percent. And in the rural county just south of us they're forty somethin' percent. Percentages of course don't account for how many actual people there are since some of these counties are nowhere near as populous as others, but it's still fairly sporadic. Tampa and Orlando host a ton of them, too.

[Donadoni1809]

What is the Mexican Indian ancestry of one of your parents?

On the verge of sounding stuck up, how is this relevant to the topic?

[VQdeochratis]

Florida has a huge Hispanic population overall, but Miami-Dade is the only county where they make up the majority. They make up about sixty percent of the population there. The next largest Hispanic zone is probably Hendry county, where they make up forty something percent. Their distribution in other counties is sporadic, even in the south of the state where they're of course more numerous.

In the counties that neighbor Miami-Dade, they're only about twenty percent. In the very central county of the state, where I live, the Hispanic percentage is in the low teens. But in the rural county just east of us, they make up thirty percent. And in the rural county just south of us they're forty somethin' percent. Percentages of course don't account for how many actual people there are since some of these counties are nowhere near as populous as others, but it's still fairly sporadic. Tampa and Orlando host a ton of them, too.

How tragic. I'm grateful I don't have to deal with them in Alpharetta. So glad I left Florida.

[MP+4]

How tragic. I'm grateful I don't have to deal with them in Alpharetta. So glad I left Florida.

Is Alpharetta a nigger mud hut Bantustan designed only for African Inhabitants?

[MarythePuppy6]

Is Alpharetta a nigger mud hut Bantustan designed only for African Inhabitants?

I'm living better than you, that's for damn sure.

[goolen4you]

I'm living better than you, that's for damn sure.

On welfare from the white man's feet?

[Stappipsy]

For me it's weird when Dominicans don't speak Spanish, but we're a more recent group and tend to visit the country a lot.

Funnily enough, the few dominicanos I met, spoke some kind of espanglish.