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Old 08-20-2010, 08:41 AM   #1
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Default France sends scores of Gypsies back to Romania
Sarkozy wants the Roma gypsies out of France.


PARIS – France expelled nearly 100 Gypsies, or Roma, to their native Romania on Thursday as part of a very public effort by conservative President Nicolas Sarkozy to dismantle Roma camps and sweep them out of the country, the Immigration Ministry said.

France chartered a flight to Bucharest, which left from the southeastern city of Lyon with 79 Roma aboard, Immigration Ministry officials said. However, Romanian border police official Cristian Ene, at Bucharest's Aurel Vlaicu airport, said only 61 people were aboard. The French Immigration Ministry was unable to immediately explain the discrepancy.

Fourteen other people were repatriated to Romania aboard a commercial flight from the Paris region earlier in the day, the French officials said, adding that another Romania-bound repatriation flight was expected Friday. Additional flights were scheduled for later this month and September, Romania's Foreign Ministry said.

Those repatriated Thursday left "on a voluntary basis" and were given small sums of money — euro300 ($386) for each adult and euro100 for children — to help them get back on their feet in their home country, a standard French practice, officials said.

Roma advocates countered that the repatriations were hardly voluntary, claiming that those who refused the deal would end up in holding centers and eventually be sent home without funds.

Alexandre Le Cleve, a spokesman for Rom Europe, said the expulsions were pointless because nothing prevented those sent back from immediately returning to France, as many have done in the past.

"For those who left this morning, they can certainly take a plane as early as tonight and come back to France. There's nothing to prevent this," Le Cleve told Associated Press Television News in an interview. "Obviously, these people come back, they are brought to the Romanian border, then come back to France, can leave again and so on. There are some Roma people who have been sent back seven or eight times, each time receiving the famous euro300."

Adrian Paraipan, a 37-year-old who was aboard the Lyon flight along with his wife and three children, said he planned to return to France.
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:52 AM   #2
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Their main problem is not the Gypsies.
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:52 PM   #3
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good for France, but not a long term solution... EU needs to find a more long term solution since settling down and integrating seems out of the questions for Roma...
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:54 PM   #4
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Send them back to India. India was kind enough to take the Tibetan exiles (Dalai Lama et al).
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:58 PM   #5
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I heard about it yesterday on TV,by accident it was on... supposedly some tens of gypsies or so were sent to Romania "by their own will",I believe they will return to France as soon as possible,also by their own will.

PS "to their native Romania",they are not native to Romania,do they look european at least? ofc not.
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:36 PM   #6
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They will just come back, if not to france then to some other eu country.
You need something like anticimex for these types.
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:38 PM   #7
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If they lose their Romanian citizenship, they're not allowed to come back.
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:46 PM   #8
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If they lose their Romanian citizenship, they're not allowed to come back.
As if gypsies ever cared about laws
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:56 PM   #9
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But then you get to throw them in jail. Being that they're from an EU country, they're entitled to travel all over Europe at their leisure, unfortunately.
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:32 PM   #10
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But then you get to throw them in jail. Being that they're from an EU country, they're entitled to travel all over Europe at their leisure, unfortunately.
Hehe i didnt think about that, but somehow they seem to manage to stay away from jail for the most part even tho they behave like monkeys all over europe, some of them drive nice cars tho
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Old 08-20-2010, 06:42 PM   #11
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A Hungarian immigrant himself.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:06 PM   #12
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How is this legal? I didn't know EU states could deport the citizens of another EU state.

I get the feeling France is bending rules again while incessantly screaming 'human rights!' at everyone else.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:35 PM   #13
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I can understand France, if I were a owner of a store I would be very suspicious if gypsies entered my store:




Arabs, somalis, negroes, greeks, french, poles, non-gypsy indians etc...none of them would I suspect, but gypsies. There's something special about them. Call me xenophobic but I do not trust them at all.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:38 PM   #14
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good for France, but not a long term solution... EU needs to find a more long term solution since settling down and integrating seems out of the questions for Roma...
What would be the long term solution?
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:57 PM   #15
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What would be the long term solution?
Hitler had the right idea.

In regard to the Gypsies, that is.

Wherever they go, they won't be doing anything productive for society. So if it's France, or Romania, or India, their proud culture insists that they be lazy nomadic thieves, and they've done it to perfection for over 1,000 years.

I don't actually support genocide, but sending them to Iceland or Pitcairn or some place where they can't bother anyone is probably the best idea. Sending them back to India wouldn't be terrible either.
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Old 08-21-2010, 01:40 AM   #16
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Hitler had the right idea.

In regard to the Gypsies, that is.

Wherever they go, they won't be doing anything productive for society. So if it's France, or Romania, or India, their proud culture insists that they be lazy nomadic thieves, and they've done it to perfection for over 1,000 years.

I don't actually support genocide, but sending them to Iceland or Pitcairn or some place where they can't bother anyone is probably the best idea. Sending them back to India wouldn't be terrible either.
"Hitler had the right idea."

"I don't actually support genocide, but..."

Really dude?
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:11 AM   #17
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What would be the long term solution?
good question, i dont have much to offer in terms of good ideas here though... but iknow they are actively resisting integration so perhaps its time to try a new way...
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:14 AM   #18
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good for France, but not a long term solution... EU needs to find a more long term solution since settling down and integrating seems out of the questions for Roma...
Yeah concentration camps, the traditional solution for such migratory ethnic minorities.
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:21 AM   #19
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I can't understand why people harbor so much hate toward the Gypsies? Why don't we just appreciate their nomadic way of life and move on.And the French government and in particular the jew president should be ashamed of him self....Gypsies were comrades to the Jewish people in the holocaust [brothers in the holocaust] and the least the Jewish state can do to show solidarity toward the gypsy is, airlift the gypies and rehabilitate them in Israel.
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Old 08-21-2010, 03:33 AM   #20
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I can't understand why people harbor so much hate toward the Gypsies? Why don't we just appreciate their nomadic way of life and move on.And the French government and in particular the jew president should be ashamed of him self....Gypsies were comrades to the Jewish people in the holocaust [brothers in the holocaust] and the least the Jewish state can do to show solidarity toward the gypsy is, airlift the gypies and rehabilitate them in Israel.
because gypsies are thieves and disgusting pigs.

edit: me thinks the jews would accidently drive them over with some of their nice merkava tanks.
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