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Old 09-08-2011, 05:26 AM   #1
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Default what do you think of mixed marriages???
I dont know too many too close, but I wonder your opinions?

I care less about race here, more about culture, religion and language. Do you think its easy? Not only wide gaps like between muslim indonesian and atheist Norwegian, but even between Dutch and French lets say.

Its different case in USA or Brazil for sure, as there is case of the same first language plus some base in culture, but still it may be variously.

I wonder how it goes on the line between parents in law or granpdas, when some cannot comunicate with others.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:31 AM   #2
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I think they are hard to work out....
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:33 AM   #3
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but still they exist. do you know real-life examples how its going?
If for instance grandchildren dont know grandparents' language? Or cousins?
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:37 AM   #4
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but still they exist. do you know real-life examples how its going?
If for instance grandchildren dont know grandparents' language? Or cousins?
Usually one gives up his culture, language, ect.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:42 AM   #5
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Usually one gives up his culture, language, ect.
Yes, but lets say you are Latvian and you marry lets say one Estonian from this forum , your mother would not be able to talk to him, would she? Then if you decided to speak Estonian at home, your mom would not be able to speak to her grandchildren?

I know a few marriages like this but I did not ask to be honest, but maybe some people know deeper?
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:43 AM   #6
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I know one thing for sure when it comes to mixed marriages: everyone seems to be far too opinionated and interested in them.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:46 AM   #7
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I know one thing for sure when it comes to mixed marriages: everyone seems to be far too opinionated and interested in them.
You mean naighbours or family interfering?
I can imagine so...
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:47 AM   #8
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Yes, but lets say you are Latvian and you marry lets say one Estonian from this forum , your mother would not be able to talk to him, would she? Then if you decided to speak Estonian at home, your mom would not be able to speak to her grandchildren?

I know a few marriages like this but I did not ask to be honest, but maybe some people know deeper?
I would never forget my mother tongue and if I will have children, they are going to speak only in Latvian with me! (That's if their father is not going to be Latvian).

I have many examples like that, for example, my grandmother is 1/2 Russian and 1/2 Jewish, her mother tongue is Russian though she is completely Latvianized, she has never spoken to me in Russian, never, never, never.

My aunt, she is Latvian who married a Russian guy, she wasn't allowed to teach Latvian to her kids, she couldn't speak Latvian at all, that's how the Russian side decided and she was young and stupid enough to agree with that, now her two sons are Latvian hating Russians, though 1/2 Latvians.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:50 AM   #9
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but still they exist. do you know real-life examples how its going?
If for instance grandchildren dont know grandparents' language? Or cousins?
Regardless of what I said before, the success or failure of each couple resides in their capability to get along, to share and to avoid selfishness just as in any other conventional marriage so to speak.

This friends of mine an American man and a mexican Indomestizo woman got married, they seem to get along pretty well they have been married for about 18 years so far.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:51 AM   #10
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You mean naighbours or family interfering?
I can imagine so...
Literally everyone. I do in fact feel that family members overstep their boundaries all the time on these issues. But society in general has an undeserved sense of entitlement it seems. They feel that they should have some say-so on whether or not this should even be allowed.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:53 AM   #11
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I don't see a problem with mixed marriages, would I want my daughter, if I had one, marrying a Black man? Probably not if I'm brutally honest, would I cut their heads off and stick them on pikes? Again, probably not.

I think most people have an instinctual aversion to interracial relationships, if only for practical reasons, a culture clash, difficulty for children i forming identities, being hated or looked down upon etc

In terms of inter-ethnic marriages between Whites, or Blacks, I don't see a problem, other than the language barrier, which can be rectified (see below). Most English people, certainly in areas which have been subjected to immigration, have some non-English ancestry; be it Irish, Jewish, Polish, Scottish, Welsh, and it doesn't seem to interfere with them forming an English identity.

In terms of religion I would be a little less flexible, I would want a child of mine to be Christened C of E, or Methodist at a push, if I had a non-C of E or non-Christian wife that would be a problem. Or I suppose the child could just be not Christened at all.

Language, I don't see why this is a problem, you just use the language of the country the child will grow up in. If you want them to learn a foreign language, from their other parent's country, then fair enough, that will probably help them later on in life. If I were living in a non-Anglophone country I wouldn't object to a child of mine not learning English if doing so were impracticable.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:53 AM   #12
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In extreme case there may be a chance that noone will be able to speak to anyone, apart from husband and wife to each other and to their own families. Lets say a polish guy marries a spanish girl and they communicate in english to each other. The guy wont be able to speak to his parents in law and any wife's family and vice versa, plus the children- its possible that mother will teach them spanish and if father does not speak it they will be able to talk to mother behind fathers back lol.

I know one interesting case, its british Deputy minister Nick Clegg. I dont know details, but he is half Dutch, quarter Russian quarter English and to spice it up even more, his wife is Spanish.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:56 AM   #13
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In extreme case there may be a chance that noone will be able to speak to anyone, apart from husband and wife to each other and to their own families. Lets say a polish guy marries a spanish girl and they communicate in english to each other. The guy wont be able to speak to his parents in law and any wife's family and vice versa, plus the children- its possible that mother will teach them spanish and if father does not speak it they will be able to talk to mother behind fathers back lol.
I do know a Latvian + Polish couple like that. They have exactly the same situation that you described. They have a daughter together, with Polish surname, Polish citizenship and I really hope that the mother of the child is going to be smart enough to at least teach the Latvian language to her daughter.
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:56 AM   #14
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I know one thing for sure when it comes to mixed marriages: everyone seems to be far too opinionated and interested in them.
They're interesting though, a mixed White & Pakistani family moved in across the road from me; had a proper good chat with all the neighbours about it. Not in a nasty way, just sort of, "Have you seen the new rainbow family across the road".

As interracial marriage occurs more and more I suspect the interest will disappear.
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:01 AM   #15
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I got that shit in my neighborhood. When my grandma was alive, everyone thought she was one of my wife's relatives, not mine, when they were discussing us amongst each other. Mind your fucking business, people.
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:06 AM   #16
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I have witnessed many interracial marriages, primarily from Mexican/white relationships which are increasingly common.

The hard part is not the two individuals for love is a strong, non-reality-based force, so it is usually not the two that are the problem but the many. The many being family members. I see it all the time. A brother or sister disapproves of the union and flames that default sentiment. These things are picked up on. They are hard to overcome and aren't exactly unnatural in that they are an automatic defense mechanism of the family unit, so you are essentially fighting the natural order by trying to overcome them and more often than not the natural order wins.

Even having one close family member that vehemently disapproves of the coupling is a very hard thing to deal with because that is the family member that always carries the most weight in opinion usually.
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:06 AM   #17
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I got that shit in my neighborhood. When my grandma was alive, everyone thought she was one of my wife's relatives, not mine, when they were discussing us amongst each other. Mind your fucking business, people.
Is your wife asiatic??
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:07 AM   #18
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Is your wife asiatic??
She's mixed, yes, and it shows more in her phenotype.
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:51 AM   #19
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I got that shit in my neighborhood. When my grandma was alive, everyone thought she was one of my wife's relatives, not mine, when they were discussing us amongst each other. Mind your fucking business, people.
I can't say how it was in your neighbourhood, whether they were being unpleasant about your family (if so, fuck them, no point in dealing with somone who prejudges you) but in my neighbourhood they were talking about this family because it was unusual (Black + White is common here, Pakistani + White isn't). Plus the family are a bit scummy so that attracted some disapproving looks.

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In extreme case there may be a chance that noone will be able to speak to anyone, apart from husband and wife to each other and to their own families. Lets say a polish guy marries a spanish girl and they communicate in english to each other. The guy wont be able to speak to his parents in law and any wife's family and vice versa, plus the children- its possible that mother will teach them spanish and if father does not speak it they will be able to talk to mother behind fathers back lol.

I know one interesting case, its british Deputy minister Nick Clegg. I dont know details, but he is half Dutch, quarter Russian quarter English and to spice it up even more, his wife is Spanish.
Yeah he's a real mongrel. He represents the cutting edge of miscegenation
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:06 AM   #20
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It wasn't unpleasant, just nosiness by some Taiwanese neighbors down the street, trying to classify us, i.e. what kind of Asians are those? They are also hostile towards the Chinese mainlanders who just moved in, and avoid the hardass old school Korean grandpa on the corner.
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