[DJkillos]

staying at your parents' house after your 20 years is ridiculed in american culture.
the bad stereotype of living at your mom's basement is not present in other cultures that I know of.
what are the reasons behind it? improving territorial and people mobility in such a vast country?

[farmarrl]

Of course yes.

[Ivanaishere]

is it the same in all Canada including francophone Canada?

[colmedindustry]

I know a Polish-American Catholic guy who was still living with his parents and making good money when he was in his mid-20's. He caught some shit about it but really he was very financially successful. He is married with 2 kids and lives in a nice house now. For every one of him, though, is 10x of some loser who lives with his mom because he's unemployed 30 year old Baby Huey who would otherwise be homeless.

Baby Huey:

[Glipseagrilia]

Because people think of those types as mama's boys-girls.

[ziIReIGS]

The economy crashed and that has changed things these previous 3-4 years…

US doesn't seem much like the "Land of Opportunity" anymore…

Any foreigners better immigrate quick before the door shuts, last call!!!

[hHwJ229h]

Becuase people think of those types as mama's boys-girls.

In my case I can't really afford to move away because apartments in the sectors I want to move in on this city are really damned expensive. At least not until my little bro finally lands himself a job (and gets to finish college at the same time), or I get to do a lucky "braguetazo" with one of the daddy's little princesses living on these high scale sectors.

[97dYA9L3]

staying at your parents' house after your 20 years is ridiculed in american culture.
the bad stereotype of living at your mom's basement is not present in other cultures that I know of.
what are the reasons behind it? improving territorial and people mobility in such a vast country?

Independence and Individuality are valued traits in US culture. Young 18-year-old kids are encouraged to "leave the nest" and live life. But as I mentioned, that has changed very much in a short time. Now economical needs are disallowing this (independence & individuality) for many.

If the US economy continues to stagnate/slump then class mobility is going to freeze. Loans are going to become restricted. Inflation/Deflation are both potential threats to the dollar-value, etc.

[77chawzence]

In my case I can't really afford to move away because apartments in the sectors I want to move in on this city are really damned expensive. At least not until my little bro finally lands himself a job (and finish college at the same time), or I get to do a lucky "braguetazo" with one of the daddy's little princesses living on these high scale sectors.

Don't worry as I am in your same situation(living with parents)

[mudozvonf]

I don't really see an issue with it, if the adult age child is contributing to the household, either financially or in the form of household labor. Where I see it and have a major issue with it, is when they are some dope smoking loser who eats up all the groceries and runs up credit card debt on stupid shit, while contributing little or nothing.

This also happens with kids living on their own, with daddy paying their rent etc. Pretty pathetic IMHO.

[MizzDaizzy]

The economy crashed and that has changed things these previous 3-4 years…

US doesn't seem much like the "Land of Opportunity" anymore…

Any foreigners better immigrate quick before the door shuts, last call!!!

That is true actually. The average price for an apartment in even some of the more run down ghetto ass ghetto cities in the US's glorious north east is like 1200-1800 dollars a month. Which can be well over half of a biweekly paycheck for average degreed joe-schmoe.

Plus less jobs then ever for hopeful college students that come out of university bright eyed and naive.

Actually know a former co-worker who went back home with his parents to live along w/ his wife (!!!), cause he couldn't stand the north east rat race anymore.

This generation in the states is predicted to do worse than there parents did. And the signs are becoming quite apparent already. The formula:

No jobs + overabundance of degreed college grads + ridiculous rental and property fees = keep on rotting in the free world.

Someone in the states really needs to realize that the whole service economy thing was bullshit and that over socialized gov. programs for citizens just lead to more problems (example: the EU). Otherwise the states is just going to turn out like the EU and not only will one be living at home w/ parents but also neighbors and probably a few other strangers.

[Inettypofonee]

Also there is no job oportunity in many places in teh wrold, so if they are still home is because they can't get out and not because they want to stay.

[LoisCampon]

I have seen some census records for my German immigrant ancestors, when they were fresh off the boat, where they were living in some kind of boarding house with 20-30 other people. Obviously people had lower expectations then vs. now.

[Todilrdc]

Plenty of good answers so far.

Many of us moved out as soon as we were able for the freedom that comes with having your own residence, many parents want their children to leave to have the house to themselves. But if one thinks about it, the idea that living with your parents as a young adult, either going to college or helping out with bills with a job (or while unemployed, doing an great deal of chores around the home), as lazy, entitled, and shameful is absurd.

It's become a political tool. Many of the elderly don't understand, they were able to get jobs right out of high school with better pay and benefits than many of us with even some college education can now. I think that many attribute the peculiar behavior of their grandkid or nephew/niece to younger people in general, rather than admit to him or herself that maybe their loved one is just odd. (Wonder how someone whose grandson is a "brony" must view us young folk)

And Fox News has been great for fueling that fire, we young adults with families are "parasites" for taking Earned Income Tax Credits (which can put our Federal income tax in the negative numbers, kind of a negative income tax like Milton Friedman advocated and which Ronald Reagen championed), are not struggling at all because we have air conditioners, ceiling fans, and "color TVs," and need to get off our asses and make something of ourselves. It's like they don't realize that we are in a depression, that job opportunities are suffering, and thanks to that we will now be making much less for probably the rest of our lives, because we have been leveraged against.

The "parasite" part at the end of this video shows what I'm talking about. It's disgusting, but that is how many want to see the next generation (whether consciously or not):

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/th...e-ride-is-over

Any adults who live with their parents would be thought of as a parasite, even though it would probably save this country immensely in public housing, if we just changed our social norm.

[Vezazvqw]

My paternal half-brother lives with his mom at age 25. He works and is still pursuing his Bachelors degree. His mom actually wants him living there, and was upset recently when he discussed moving out.

Now here's the weird part. Our 22-year-old younger sister just gave birth to a baby out of wedlock with this sociopathic loser. My sister is stuck on guys like this... he is just the latest in a long series of them. He does happen to be one of the more dangerous among them. Before the baby was born, my brother planned to move out, when his mom proposed to move my sister and this guy into the house. She tried to guilt trip him over it. LOL doesn't work at all... my brother is like a brick wall for that, maybe worse than me. His mom ended up paying my sister's rent for their ghetto duplex instead.

Unfortunately my stepmom is a major enabler for bad behavior in this case. We know more than enough about this baby daddy to know he shouldn't be anywhere near our family, but my sister is too emotionally needy with her inferiority complex and "bad boy" fetish to leave him.

Anyway I suppose the point is that this sort of multigenerational family cohabitation isn't compatible with the level of "freedom" that young people sometimes expect to have. That is, the freedom to associate with people who shouldn't even be welcome in your house.

[Jueqelyl]

According to sociologist Emmanuel Todd:



The zone in Yellow and Blue are zones where families encourage the kids to leave home very early.

The zone in Green are zones where kids tend to stay at home far into adulthood, sometimes with their wives. Multigenerational homes that is.

United States is overwhelmingly of the Yellow color

which is:
Egalitarian nuclear
Total emancipation of children in adulthood to form
independent families made simply of a couple and their
children. Equal division of inheritance among children. This
system encourages the persistence of slightly stronger
relations between parents and children until the inheritance is
completely divided after the parents’ death (Todd, 1990a: 37-
38). “The dislocation of traditional English and (northern) French societies by a complex process of ubanization, industrialization and the spread of literacy, has been comparatively less painful than in cultures dominated by a family ideal that emphasizes the complementary qualities of parents and children. The rural exodus separates the generations and erodes the core of complex families of the exogamous community and authoritarian models. It has no effect on a system dominated by nuclear households, where the early breakdown of domestic groups is socially acceptable and prepared for by an apprenticeship in individual autonomy from childhood. Urbanization in England started early and was soon complete. By comparison with Germany and Russia which developed later, the process in England seems to have been an easy one. It occurred in a peasant society which was already very flexible.”
America type of family is an inheritance of the Anglo type of family (absolute nuclear)

American capitalism encourages this type of family, though Todd argues it is the other way round.

[erepsysoulpfbs]

staying at your parents' house after your 20 years is ridiculed in american culture.
the bad stereotype of living at your mom's basement is not present in other cultures that I know of.
what are the reasons behind it? improving territorial and people mobility in such a vast country?

Could be a reason. I hear in some continents / continents, it's not that way though.

[Cengaeas]

That is true actually. The average price for an apartment in even some of the more run down ghetto ass ghetto cities in the US's glorious north east is like 1200-1800 dollars a month. Which can be well over half of a biweekly paycheck for average degreed joe-schmoe.

Plus less jobs then ever for hopeful college students that come out of university bright eyed and naive.

Actually know a former co-worker who went back home with his parents to live along w/ his wife (!!!), cause he couldn't stand the north east rat race anymore.

This generation in the states is predicted to do worse than there parents did. And the signs are becoming quite apparent already. The formula:

No jobs + overabundance of degreed college grads + ridiculous rental and property fees = keep on rotting in the free world.

Someone in the states really needs to realize that the whole service economy thing was bullshit and that over socialized gov. programs for citizens just lead to more problems (example: the EU). Otherwise the states is just going to turn out like the EU and not only will one be living at home w/ parents but also neighbors and probably a few other strangers.

The social programmes are good in many ways and have not ruined the EU. The US needs some fiscal policy along with socialism and deprivatization. This way you may actually be able to influence politics directly and create more jobs with people feeling more secure. The ultra capitalistic approach doesn't work anymore.

And living at home with one's parents if able to, is a good thing. But it depends on how strong your family bound is. Unfortunately I had to move out when I was 20 due to university.

[Donlupedron]

According to sociologist Emmanuel Todd:



The zone in Yellow and Blue are zones where families encourage the kids to leave home very early.

The zone in Green are zones where kids tend to stay at home far into adulthood, sometimes with their wives. Multigenerational homes that is.

The map looks messed up. Swedes in most cases leave the home when they're 19 and being 25 and still living at home is something that is ridiculed. If this was an evolutionary background map I could have understood why we are in the green zone, but it doesn't reflect the current society.

[AlexanderDrew]

The map looks messed up. Swedes in most cases leave the home when they're 19 and being 25 and still living at home is something that is ridiculed. If this was an evolutionary background map I could have understood why we are in the green zone, but it doesn't reflect the current society.

Actually there are many factors and nuances to be made. This map is dated (there are updated maps but i didn't find them on the net), and only rurality has been taken into account, not the cities. Of course, in our modern age, due to American cultural influence, the american "absolute nuclear" type of family has influenced everything and in our modern capitalistic way of life, it's ridiculed to stay at home after 18 everywhere (industrialisation/rural exodus to the cities has created "nuclear" type of families everywhere in europe).

The explanation I gave to what are the green/yellow/blue zones was very vulgarized, it's much more complex.