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Old 06-14-2012, 01:43 AM   #1
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Default Do Judean Americans think of themselves as being European?
I noticed that Larry David referred to himself as being European/ European American and that American Jews often pretend that Judeans are merely a religion.
I noticed that Ashkenazi Israelis who look exactly the same never refer to themselves as European and are proud to be Middle Eastern.




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Old 06-14-2012, 02:42 AM   #2
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Well Larry David is just keeping it real, lol, so to speak.
He's right he is European, that is what majority of Ashkenazis are, their HOME is Europe NOT Israel.

And don't give me that dna bullshit, i know so many white people whose results from dna checks has come back as a large percent of sub saharan African, should they start calling themselves Negroids and taking over land in Africa in the name of religion, No didnt think so!

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Old 06-14-2012, 04:24 AM   #3
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http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture09103.html
They are genetically Middle Eastern for the most part. Where do you they got the nose and curly hair from?
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:48 AM   #4
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http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture09103.html
They are genetically Middle Eastern for the most part. Where do you they got the nose and curly hair from?
We are all genetically African for the most part.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:45 AM   #5
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We are all genetically African for the most part.
Out of Africa theory is highly debate. Do you view Ed Miliband and Sacha Baron Cohen as Englishmen?

They most certainly do not look English.

Culturally Ashkenazi Jews are indeed Europeanized, however they are genetically Middle Eastern for the most part, they have some admixture, but they are of the nation of Judah from the Kingdom of Judah/ Judea/Israel.

http://heritage-key.com/blogs/michae...-africa-theory
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:54 PM   #6
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Define European and Middleastern pls? Genetically there isn't a sharp division between Europe and West Asia. Both Southern and western Europeans have loads of middleastern admix (west asian, south west asian, mediterranean, north western african,..).
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:11 PM   #7
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Define European and Middleastern pls? Genetically there isn't a sharp division between Europe and West Asia.
This is only true for Italians , Greeks and some balkanian nations. The other europeans (Iberians, French, British, slavs...) are clearly distinct from Middle-easterns.

Both Southern and western Europeans have loads of middleastern admix (west asian, south west asian, mediterranean, north western african,..).
Wrong. The Northwest african genetic component is very low among europeans compared to the west asian component. We (maghrebians) are very different from south europeans. In our case, Geographic proximity =/= genetic proximity
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Old 06-14-2012, 03:18 PM   #8
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This is only true for Italians , Greeks and some balkanian nations. The other europeans (Iberians, French, British, slavs...) are clearly distinct from Middle-easterns.
Mediterraneans are just genetically drifted middleasterners and are clearly foreign to Europe.

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Old 06-14-2012, 04:00 PM   #9
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They know better who they feel closer to, it's up to them to decide. Geographically Israel is in the Middle East, and I can't say about the people of Israel and how they feel, but Jewish people living in Europe and USA surely feel closer to Americans and Europeans.
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Old 06-14-2012, 04:06 PM   #10
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I noticed that Larry David referred to himself as being European/ European American and that American Jews often pretend that Judeans are merely a religion.
I noticed that Ashkenazi Israelis who look exactly the same never refer to themselves as European and are proud to be Middle Eastern.




Young Larry David
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...QEwAg&dur=2204
I don't think they pretend it's just a religion, that belief stems naturally from the counter-factual dogma embraced by many American Jews, it seems like it's changing pretty quickly these days, though.

This is a younger Larry David, btw:

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Old 06-14-2012, 07:26 PM   #11
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They know better who they feel closer to, it's up to them to decide. Geographically Israel is in the Middle East, and I can't say about the people of Israel and how they feel, but Jewish people living in Europe and USA surely feel closer to Americans and Europeans.
Most Russians, Poles, Ukrainians and Lithuanian ( where most of them lived before moving to Israel and America do not regard them as European.

The thing is in America and in Britain Judeans do not exist on the ethnic census form for some reason and are only classed a religion here, but they most certainly do in Eastern Europe.

PS Armenians are less European than Ashkenazi Jews.
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Old 06-14-2012, 07:43 PM   #12
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Lol, why do you think I need an unintellectual troll's advice on who is who. People know and decide for themselves who they are, with whom they feel better and have much in common. You've taken too much burden upon your shoulders, calm down
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:29 PM   #13
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Lol, why do you think I need an unintellectual troll's advice on who is who. People know and decide for themselves who they are, with whom they feel better and have much in common. You've taken too much burden upon your shoulders, calm down
If an Indian man felt like being European would he become European overnight?
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:36 AM   #14
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http://geocurrents.info/cultural-geo...re-not-russian

A Manchester-born soldier has become one of the public faces of the IDF during Operation Cast Lead.
http://217.18.90.33/news/israel-news...s-a-fresh-face
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:25 AM   #15
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An Indian man? sure, he just has to drop the -Indo- part of Indo-European and will become European overnight. You have to start fighting him already. Save the world!!!
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