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04-15-2006, 07:00 AM
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 What does it mean to be thamizhs- PLEASE RESPOND
I am 19 yrs old. since i was 13 i ve lived abroad. but I have a fierce pride that i am a thamizhan. and by being a thamizhan, I consider myself lucky to call such an ancient, literary tradition as my own.
But u know what. it sometimes scares me to think that hardly anyone knows about the richness of their language/or history. if you dont even know. how are you going to be proud of it and worse still PROMOTE IT. I am sick of people just raving on about the greatness of tamil. To most people it sounds as though we are all fanatics. Perhaps some people should take care of the living language thamizh too. i mean look at english which is flourishing now. greek, latin and that language sanskrit are all dead. the reason english is flourishing now is becos people speak it. chinese, japanese. they really speak it. UPDATE IT. and USE IT. why cant thamizhs do the same. unmayil thamizh meedu patru irunthal ovvoru thamizhanum, thamizhil pesa, ezhutha karkka vendum. thamizh sould be made into a modern language. shortlly speaking two doctors should converse in thamizh medically. two scientists. two engineers. just as two philosophers or religious people might... WHAT DO YOU THINK. we youngsters need some guidance from the PAZHAMS THAT grace this forum. dont we need to make varungala thamizh nadu a valamana thamizh nadu |
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01-12-2006, 07:00 AM
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naan enthaenum thavaraga koori irunthal manniyungal. ungal pathilkalai yedhirparkiraen.
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03-11-2006, 07:00 AM
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neer sonathu 100% unmai ! unmaiyai thavira vaeru ondrum ellai !
neer mannippu koori ezhutha avasiyamum illai ! |
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05-29-2006, 07:00 AM
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itli thosai:
I think each of us must contribute in some measures to the progress of our language. You know what, if you are interested in Sangath Thamizh literature and scout for books in Tamilnadu, you'll get them all at cheap rates and in cheap quality of print - such is the dire straits that we have fallen into. I dont know if the passionate people who translated those epoch making works receive any Royalty at all or not. We must make it a point to buy Tamil literature books - old and new and at least make it a point to converse in Tamil within family and friends. There are enough things we can do - for instance, we both can learn to type in Tamil and communicate in our thAi mozhi. Anbudan, Thirumaal |
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04-10-2006, 07:00 AM
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Mozhi azhivatharku erandu karanangal...
Onru, pesuvar illathu poguthal Erandu, kaalathirku yerpa mozhi valarathu irutthal Athai miga azhagaga sutti katti irukkereerkal, Itli thosai. Oru vithathil, intha erandam karanam thaan nam tamizh mozhiyaiyum indru baathikkirathu. Oru puram, munnerangal yeralam. avaikarku tamizhil sorkal illa..irunthalum, athai upayogikka yeno oru thayakkam...itharku naanum vidhi vilakka alla....kanipori enra sollai vida computer enbathe enakkum iyalbagha varugirathu. Oru karanam enna venral, namm mozhi ithanai pazhmai vaithanthaga iruppathe enru enakku thonrugirathu. Puthithaga vantha ivvarthaigalai yeno tamizh sorkalaga karuda mudiavillai. aanal, neer solliya vannam, tamizhai naam "update" seithu "use" seiyya vidil, tamizhum azhiyumo enra achham irukkirathu. Thanayan irukka thai azhuvatha? tamizhan irukka, thanga thamizh azhivatha? |
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05-11-2006, 07:00 AM
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Dear idli dosai,
Your intension is good. But you have to see the practical possibilities. There are more books in tamil for science and technology and medicine than any other language in india. Tamil University published tamil books for MBBS degree. But with indian political setup you cannot implement tamil as language for science studies in colleges. Employment oppurtunities should be there. Then only the learning of other arts through tamil will improve. China and Japan have different political set up. That is why tamils want to atleast history to make the tamil living. But, I think, we can preserve tamil in literature only. We have to look into the history of jews. They forgot their language migrated all over the world. Reached higher positions.Earned much.Influenced the world much. At last they revived the perished country and language after serveral years. This is the one inspiration for tamils in history. |
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10-27-2005, 07:00 AM
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What it means to be Tamils? Idli thosai, of course! If you don't go for that you cant be a Tamil!
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12-15-2005, 07:00 AM
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I am sick of people just raving on about the greatness of tamil. To most people it sounds as though we are all fanatics.  This guy is perfectly right. By parading around this forum claiming htat Tamil is better than other languages or that Tamil is the "best" langauge...you are not helping yourselves or Tamil in anyway...in fact, it only makes people think of you as an extremist and it makes whatever langauge you are trying to boast look bad... |
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01-09-2006, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by itli thosai I am sick of people just raving on about the greatness of tamil. To most people it sounds as though we are all fanatics.|
08-26-2006, 07:00 AM
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Friend,
Tamil is one of the Oldest Languages, and now Tamils living in Abroad has more oppertunity to be in touch with Tamils, like this forum- LET US THANK ALL. Friends, Most of the SANGAM LIterature and Tirukural are available ONLINE- Downloadable- at www.tamilnet/projectmadurai Please keep knowing the past. Sangam LIterature tells how deeply Tamils were religious with Practice of Vedas from Tholkappiyam Days. Also Sangam LIt. tells how much of Civilisation level of Tamils. Knowing past History is best way to look at future. MosesMohammedSolomon. |
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12-19-2005, 07:00 AM
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Solomon lied:
Sangam LIterature tells how deeply Tamils were religious with Practice of Vedas from Tholkappiyam Days. 'Vedic Practice' is about eating meat roasted in the sacrifical fire and drinking Soma - an intoxicating liqour. Sangam Literature - The Thirukural was talked against such practices! |
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06-13-2006, 07:00 AM
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Friends,
Tholkappiyam to Tirukural all regard Vedas as Highest Regard and God INSpired Revealtion. Let Idiyappam stop Nonsense- Tamil Worship method Veriyattu has much bore Sacrfice Killing and drinking of Animal Bloods. If Vedas are of 2000BCE, and Sangalm TaMIL Lit. is 200CE, and Please stop your NONSENSE, I CAN Quote both, and I Want to give only what is releavent today, don't force me. MosesMOHammedSolomon |
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05-11-2006, 07:00 AM
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solo man,
why don't you first digest idli thosai before trying idiappam? |
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04-21-2006, 07:00 AM
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Knowing past History is best way to look at future. Isn't history always the past? |
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08-31-2006, 07:00 AM
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Friends,
Tamil Sangam Lit. has Differenciating Tamil Worship Method, mentioned in Tholkappiyam, ThiruMurugatrupadai, Silapathikaram to others, and that is called Veriyattu, and Sacrifice and eating of Bloods are perfectly mentioned, Vedic are dated to 2000BCE, and so 2000 years later still sacrifice was continued, when after Vupanishad dates 600BCE, Sacrifice in Vedic Practice was widely discontinued. Tirukural was looked as a Translation and explanation of Vedas, as per the Authors of Tiruvalluva Malai, few of which is quoted already in Tirukural Thread. MosesSolomon |
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09-21-2006, 07:00 AM
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Friends, |
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10-12-2005, 06:48 PM
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Friends,
Mr.Idiyappam is bent upon saying meaninglessly against Indian Vedic Tradition, which Valluvar is Openly supports. Why Keep on saying Badly on 4000 year old, when 2000 years later Tamils were of equal or worser, as Sangam Lit. Proves. Please accept both and take only good, and stop Bad Mouthing against one, if you do on one, certainly other would bring the next side. Follow Tirukural Anchaneya |
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10-13-2005, 02:05 PM
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Dear Mr Anjaneya,
I grew up in an orthodox ambience, belived that vedas are the greatest repository of knowledge. But it all changed when I startted reading vedas rather than reading articles that blindly praise it. Let us talk like knowledgable adults, to begin with let us talk about Rig veda, I have read it completly, In short it is about i) praising a bunch of war gods by saluting them with encomiums. ii) Claiming victory over dark skinned people thanks to the aryan valour. iii) Animals are created so that they can be sacrified, once sacrificed how should you eat them.....The list goes on like this. I never found even one funda there to be anything that closely resembles sacredness or even knowledge worth appreciation. If I am wrong please enlighten me. Please reply so that we can have a objective talk about Rig veda, rather than blanket sweep statements like it is great , that is great etc. Please do not compare Thirukural with any of the vedic litreature, to vedas secularism is anathema, to thirukural it is the crux. |
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10-14-2005, 04:20 AM
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Dear Mr. Mahadevan/Anchaneya,
Good to see the point you are trying to make. I would like to join this too. I think as of now I stand with Anchaneya. Let me see if I change.... And by the way Mr. Mahadevan, Where did you study vedhas? Did you read it by yourself? Which language? Sanskrit or Englishor any other language translation? Because if you start reading versions other than the original then the author might have put in his views and perspectives in to it .. .might be.... And I would strongly condomn you saying that I have read Rig veda. ( Rig veda, I have read it completly as you have said). I trust You have just read it. Not studied it. People who read such an ancient script will never say , I read it completely and I understand it fully.... and jump in to some conclusions like point 1,2,3 and the list goes on like this.... You are making fun out of Rig Vedha the ancient ever script in India and of course of yourself too... I dont want to argue any point .. but please do think twice before making such statements. Anchaneya, keep it up. |
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