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11-02-2005, 07:00 AM
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 After Kannadasan Who ??
Dear Friends,
Wish to intitate discussion on this topic. Valee , Vairamuthu, etc etc |
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06-28-2006, 07:00 AM
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After kannadasan, its definitely Valee.
The beauty about Valee is that you can call him After Kannadasan After Vairamuthy After Pa Vijay The reason is he has done what Kannadasan has done (specially MGR thathuva paadalgal) he has done what Vairamuthu has done (pure poetic tamil), he has done what Pa Vijay has done (simple but yet meaningful tamil). More over he can do what he is best at, mix and match. If ARR and Surya is inviting him to write lyrics for New and Aa Aah, that simply shows what an unimaginable imagination he must have. |
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07-28-2006, 07:00 AM
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NJV,
Point taken. Valee's strengths are - He can address all types of songs. Thin line of difference between Kannadasan and Valee . KD had given thought provoking songs. Valee also had given through MGR. Valee had variety. Not sure about Vairamuthu. He is very poetic |
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04-16-2006, 07:00 AM
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After Kannadasan .... kannadasan than
no body will match him.... |
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05-29-2006, 07:00 AM
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After Kannadasan .... kannadasan than Valee and Vairamuthu come close to the seat after Kannadasan. Valee had been in the industry for more than 30 years now. Amazing as he has stood the test of times. VM is also equally good in his own way. But, I dont see anybody after these 2 guys worth noting |
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02-19-2006, 07:00 AM
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No doubt....it is Valee, Valee and Valee only. I am telling for somany reasons:
He is surviving for more than 44 years, without any 'sarukkal' (he entered in 1962. Karpagam (1963) and Padakotti (1964) brought him to bright light). No any lyric writer survive this much long period (including Kannadasan). As 'njv' said, he is possessing the stuffness of Kannadasan, Vairamuthu, Pa.Vijay and others. He can write for MGR & Shivaji films and also for the present youngsters taste (example: Boys). Once (about 1968) a press reporter interviewing Kannadasan and asked him "Which of your latest songs, you are hearing often with interest?". Kannadasan replied, "Yes I am hearing a latest song often, but it was not written by me. It was written by Valee. It is none other than "maadahavi pon mayilaal... thogai viriththaal" from Iru Malargal. How nice Valee has written". Kannadasan admired with open hearted. |
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10-18-2005, 07:00 AM
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vaali is uncomparable to any of these day singers including vairamuthu(who is most of the times recycles his own song or includes Poetic lines)
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...t=1449&start=0 you can read and enjoy gems of vaali in the above page will update the page more in coming days thanks raj |
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01-06-2006, 07:00 AM
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Valee has high sense of humour.
Once one press man asked him Mettuketha paatu or paatuketha mettu Valee promptly said - DHUDUKETHA PAATU !!! Thats valee for you !!! |
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02-20-2006, 07:00 AM
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"After Kannadasan Who ??"
definitely saidapeta shankaru....enna thathuvama pozhiyuvaru theriyuma????shuld i call him into this discussion so that he can display his prowess????  hey jokes apart...even i'll go for valee......wat vairamuthu struggles to convey valee conveys it with ease......and he seems to grow younger with age.......listen to maro maro(boys).....gr8 man...just like javed saab in Hindi........ |
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07-17-2006, 07:00 AM
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Valee has multiple faces - he can write love songs, sentimental songs, kolgai parappu songs for MGR, songs like Raja kayya vecha also etc etc
VM is somewhat serious character and a core subject oriented guy. |
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11-21-2005, 07:00 AM
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There were other guys like :
Pulamaipithan Panju arunachalam Na Kamarasan Mu Metha But we could not think of anybody other than Valee or Vairamuthu Why why why ??? |
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09-22-2006, 07:00 AM
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VM is rich in his imaginations!
"Pal mazhai ku kathirum boomiyallava, Pandikai ku kathirukum Sami allava". "Kodi keethanamum, Kavi kortha varthaikalum thuli kanner pol artham tharumo". Valee (from the little I've heard) is simple and to the point. I like VM for his poetical richness. |
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09-03-2006, 07:00 AM
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VMs famous ones :
1. manidha manidha eni un vizigal 2. Pon maalai pozudhu - especially kelvigalal velvigalai naan seiven 3. andhi mazai pozigiradhu 4. raasavay varuthamaa - it was a befitting song for Shivaji one of the words - Aagayam surungumaa , suriyan karukkumaa Nobodyelse would have given such a wording for Shivaji . Just took him to the highest level in a few words. Thats the pen strength of VM |
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12-18-2005, 07:00 AM
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Once, when Music Dorector V.Kumar, Lyric Writer Vaalee, Director KB were sitting for a duet song composition for the moveis "Ethir Neechal".
At that time V.Kumar was talking about the Kannadasan's famous song with word play (vaarththai jaalangal) in Veera Abimanyu the well known song: "Paarthen...sirithen...pakkam vara thudiththen Unai then ena naan ninaithen... andha malaithen idhuven malaithen". V.Kumar told Valee, "we should compose a song like that. As a challenge I am asking you to give a pallavi end with "Kall" but should not mention the actual "Kall" (a kind of arrack), and also end with "Then" but should not mention actually "then"(honey). Come on write a pallavi like that". Vaalee was thinking for few minutes, then told his assistant to note down the song: Thaamarai kannan'gal Thenmalar kinnan'gal Eththanai vannan'gal - muththamaai sindhumbothu Pongidem ennan'gal Maalaiyil sandhith'then Maiyalil sindhith'then Mangai naan kandith'then - kaadhalan theendumpodhu Kaigalai mannith'then. No doubt Vaalee is really great........... |
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04-23-2006, 07:00 AM
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You know,
Andha naal gnabam nenjilay vandhathey - was written by Valee only !! Again, in nizalgal - Madai thiranthu thaavum nadhialai naan By valee only |
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05-29-2006, 07:00 AM
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Dear Sharadha,
I love the song - Edho yendham deivam from Babu Especially the following words : Pala nool padithu nee ariyum kalvi Podhu nalan ninathu nee vazangum selvam Pirar uyarvinilay unakirukkum inbam Evai anaithilumay euppadhu dhan deivam Beautifully framed. Wonderful song. I just love it Again in the same song , avan poo viriyum solailay manappan Isai poonguyilin then kuralil inippan Kulir maygamena daagathayay thanippan etc etc In a small song, he summarises what is Godliness and where God exists. Wonderful thinking by Valee |
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06-08-2006, 07:00 AM
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Hello Sharadha,
By the way, you have an indepth info on Valee and Shivaji. Hats off. Keep it up I was thinking high about Shivaji and Valee. I admit now that there is another competitor for me !! |
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12-18-2005, 07:00 AM
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Dear Sharadhaji,
What you had expressed will be in the hearts of ALL THOSE WHO WERE A WITNESS DURING THAT GOLDEN PERIOD OF : BARATHIRAJA, BALUMAHENDA, MAHENDRAN, BAGYARAJ ASSOCIATED WITH ILAYARAJA , VAIRAMUTHU. THE CREATIVITY , THE SENSE OF IMAGINATION, THE TREND SETTING VISION , THE MESSAGE THEY DELIVERED DURING THOSE YEARS. THE GOLDEN PERIOD WAS BETWEEN - 1975 AND 1983 AND NOT BEYOND THAT. YES, I WAS ONE OF THOSE FORTUNATE GUYS TO PHYSICALLY WITNESS THE RISE AND GROWTH OF THOSE GREAT PERSONALITIES. I MISS THEM VERY VERY MUCH . YOU KNOW WHY, WHENEVER I COME ACROSS SUCH MOVIES OR SUCH SONGS, I IMMEDIATELY GO BACK BY 25 YEARS AND REMEMBER MY SCHOOL DAYS / COLLEGE DAYS AND FEEL ISOLATED. IMMEDIATELY , MY WIFE WILL COME TO MY RESCUE SAYING THAT YES THOSE GOLDEN DAYS WILL NEVER COME AGAIN IN LIFE . REALLY REALLY REALLY, I MISS THOSE GOLDEN PERIOD- NOT ONLY ME, ALL MY CLASS MATES AND THOSE PEER FRIENDS OF MY GENERATION MISS THOSE DAYS AGAIN. YOU KNOW, I ARRANGED FOR A GATHERING OF ALL MY OLD FRIENDS 3 MONTHS BACK WHEN I WAS IN CHENNAI AND WE ALL COULD MEET AND EXCHANGE ALL OUR OLD THOUGHTS . IN FACT WE USED TO FIGHT ABOUT BR, IR, MSV, MAHENDRAN, BALUMAHENDRA, BAGYARAJ ETC ETC AND COMPARE WITH KB OR MSV OR KV MAHADEVAN BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY , WE USED TO GO BACK AS FRIENDS. Yes, you are right. Everything is missing and lost in Tamil film industry. Rarely I come across - good movies Seldom I could hear - melodius songs Yes yes I miss all those golden days. Affectionately your brother from Uganda S.Balaji |
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09-19-2006, 07:00 AM
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Anbulla Saradhaji,
If you see my initial threads , you will realise that I was in search of my old Golden IRs intial period songs - like : 1. Naan pesa vanthen , sollathan vaarthai illai 2. Devan thiruchabai malargalay 3. Kalangal 4. Pani vizum poo nilavay You know the above are all composed by IR during the intial years ( i mean in the late 70s ) when he took every opportunity as a challenge and was proving all his critics wrong by composing memorable songs . I repeat memorable songs loaded with melodies. Even the great IR subsequently changed his style and became a total instrumentalist in the mid 80s and in the process lost his melody. Like this I can write a big history about BR and Mahendran |
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