[Anckzxik]

Hi all, I was watching TV today and was thinking about for the rest of the day. On UK TV there an evening show called Richard & Judy on live every week day. They invite guests to talk about subjects like UFOs in the UK yesterday and general boring chat thought the program.

Today they invited a man from Cheadle Hume a town right near where I live the only living foreign samurai, he said:
"When I was about 7 I went to cubs, but right near cubs I could see a Japanese man over a fence practising, I thought he moved so gracefully. So another week I decided to climb over the fence and say, Can I join your class?. The man promptly hit him to the ground. But the next week he allowed my to practice." "After about 20 years the Japanese man died and made me a Samurai, I got to go to Japan and was presented a set of Samurai armour by the emperor?" Sorry if he did not meet the emperor but I have a bad memory . "The guy was learning Karate! and Iaido! and did not seem too good at Iaido any way. So strange.

[Sheefeadalfuh]

Well

1:to be samurai u have to be 100% Japanes
2:Born in a Samurai Family
3:Born befor 1900 because the samurai class was disbanned in the 18somthing

So even though by some miracle were born in Japan , in a family that has samurai roots , and you follow the bushido and practise Kenjutso kyudo , iaido and kendo , its 10000000000 % imposible to become a samurai.

ppl need to stop trying to become somthing that has no place in todays society and start living a normal life.

Khabbi

[Enladalusange]

Well

1:to be samurai u have to be 100% Japanes
2:Born in a Samurai Family
3:Born befor 1900 because the samurai class was disbanned in the 18somthing

So even though by some miracle were born in Japan , in a family that has samurai roots , and you follow the bushido and practise Kenjutso kyudo , iaido and kendo , its 10000000000 % imposible to become a samurai.

ppl need to stop trying to become somthing that has no place in todays society and start living a normal life.

Khabbi

NoNoNoNoNONONONONONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Tell Me It AINT SO!!!!!!!

I know fer certain it aint so! I got da sword, da clothes and I finally can put the coulotts on right, so I must be a samurai! After all da money I paid, I better be one! Well, back to wax on wax off practice!

[thighikergove]

haha

maybe you can get a refond ?


Khabbi

[MicoSiru]

To be a true samurai, you need one of these:
http://www.thewebcollection.com/samurai_3000.html

"The Samurai of the year 3000 AD. is a master of high technology fighting and weaponry and the primary arm is the plasmium sword, a device constructed by highly disciplined weapon masters using an extremely secretive form of physics."

"The UC1258 and UC1260 feature the Samurai code of justice, service, and honor on the hand guard, engraved in their secret language."


Holy cow! If I knew about this sooner, I would never have joined kendo! These things are only a fraction of the cost of our equipment! I can't wait until 3000 AD -- where do I sign up!?

[puzobok]

Must have got hit in the head that first time he climbed over the fence!

[aLZ9zKsO]

Why would we need ppl who were stuck in the age befor 1900 ? ,
Dont we have enuff soldiers ? , do we need ppl who want to be samurais coz they have seen some movie ? , Samurai's where higher up in rank then pesents and regular ppl , do we realy want ppl who look down on others ?

Wouldent it be much more easier to just be a nice guy ? ( gal )

Khabbi

[Bvghbopz]

eEEEEWwww that guy sounds eerily similar to Frank Dux (that freakin' dude from Bloodsport).

[DghtRdc]

eEEEEWwww that guy sounds eerily similar to Frank Dux (that freakin' dude from Bloodsport).

HEY! that's based on a TRUE story. Don't be knocking Bloodsport, that was my favorite movie right after Ninja Turtles 1 when I was growing up.

[Zfdeisde]

I love it when some nut claims he's a samurai

They always overlook some important things about samurai, though:
- Samurai never called themselves samurai. I think they called themselves bushi.
- They always consider samurai as something as something supernatural. I can't really describe it, but it's almost like superheroes. The samurai class was "just" the warrior class of Japan (I put just between quotes because I consider they had exceptional skills, but nothing like superheroes off course ).
- They almost always refer to the code of the samurai. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there was a written, uniform samurai code. I think it was rather an unwritten set of moral values that could vary upon the fief the samurai was attached to.
- There are no samurais anymore since 1867 and the Meiji Restoration. The samurai class was set aside for good then.
- You didn't "become" a samurai, you were born into a samurai family and raised as one.
- Hagakure isn't the samurai code! It's just the reflections of one single person about what being a retainer/samurai was. The book is still very intresting and provides a good view of how life was back then.

Besides, I actually know someone who descends from a samurai family and she said that fact doesn't matter a lot to most japanese nowadays.

[avodeinst]

Bushido wasent even thought of befor the Edo period . thats about 1600-1867( not sure on the date but ill trust shiro on that ) . befor that there was no bushido , So the thought that all samurai followed the bushido is realy wrong. And when bushido came in play it was in a sense to keep the unemployed samurais in check .

I havent read anything about a half white samurai so im gonna stick to what i know and that is that there where only japanes samurais . forigners dident have much freedom in japan back then , very strict rules , so i dont know if they would allow a "white guy" to get a samurai chick pregnent.

As for supermen , like now some soldiers are real good , and disiplined , and there are some that are total crap and commit crimes . It was the same back then.

thats all for tonight class children lol

Khabbi

[xkQCaS4w]

i have a friend, takamasa saito, hes from a samurai origin... but doesnt speak of it, he doesnt care much for swords, he does jiujutsu (however u spell it)

[VINPELA]

As for supermen , like now some soldiers are real good , and disiplined , and there are some that are total crap and commit crimes . It was the same back then.

Exactly. Those who think they are samurai almost consider it like they were jedi or something, it's totally wrong. The samurai were "just" the japanese military back then.

Like Mystic says, even in Japan, samurai origins don't matter anymore. So what's the point of claiming you are one?

Besides, I think most of the people who really believe they are samurai just need friends to play with, or something. I also think they would wet their pants if they really had to pick up a live blade for a duel (now, I'm not saying I would do better, but at least I don't claim to be a samurai).

btw, the Edo period is: 1603 - 1867. So Khabbi wasn't far from it (I looked it up).

[SQiTmhuY]

close but no cigar =) , thanx shiro , its nice to know some ppl read books and search the internet to get facts . seems alot of ppl get their knowledge
nowadays from hollywood movies .

As for ppl wanting to become samurai , im not sure whats wrong with their coconut.




Khabbi

[koebforfrn]

close but no cigar =) , thanx shiro , its nice to know some ppl read books and search the internet to get facts . seems alot of ppl get their knowledge nowadays from hollywood movies .

As for ppl wanting to become samurai , im not sure whats wrong with their coconut.

Khabbi

I just love history
And people who think they are samurai should take a look at it.

Here's a good site about it: http://www.samurai-archives.com/
For those who are not familiar with japanese history, look things up about Takeda Shingen, Oda Nobunaga and Tokugawa Ieyasu. It's really, really intresting .

[Muesrasrs]

I was actualy gonna recommend The Samurai-Archives and The Samurai History Forum to you ( Shiro ), but no need if you already know about them hehe

As for Famous Samurai I kinda like SAITO Denkibo , theres a short story about him here on K-W . somthing charismatic about him hehe .

As for the Samurai forum , its a real good one , just dont pay any attention to the " i wanna be a samurai / Ninja " and "who would win in a fight betwen samurai and a ninja " posts .

Khabbi

[qwerty1]

I was actualy gonna recommend The Samurai-Archives and The Samurai History Forum to you ( Shiro ), but no need if you already know about them hehe

As for Famous Samurai I kinda like SAITO Denkibo , theres a short story about him here on K-W . somthing charismatic about him hehe .

As for the Samurai forum , its a real good one , just dont pay any attention to the " i wanna be a samurai / Ninja " and "who would win in a fight betwen samurai and a ninja " posts .

Khabbi

I knew the site, but I haven't really checked the forum yet because I thought there would be a lot of wannabes . But I'll check it out this afternoon, thanks!

[Qynvtlur]

We'll you might have to be 100% Japanese to be a samurai.

But you can be 0% and still become a ninja...I know, I saw it on T.V.

http://www.pazsaz.com/master.html

[Faumpiggueria]

We'll you might have to be 100% Japanese to be a samurai.

But you can be 0% and still become a ninja...I know, I saw it on T.V.

http://www.pazsaz.com/master.html

I never thought I'd see an eighties pop-martial arts television series alongside "Sister Sister" on th same network..

[netamargr]

I know it was just a joke , but still i feel a need to pick apart the joke and analyze it

The "ninja " were actualy Samurai , Another myth shatterd to pieces

The last real ninja was prob James Bond in "You only Live twice" .




Khabbi