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Old 11-20-2007, 12:42 PM   #1
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Hi, I'm having trouble with the new Leopard OSX. It keeps crashing/freezing randomly. I'll get this screen with a gray box saying that I need to restart my computer. Can anyone tell me how to fix this really annoying problem? I do have the copy of a report that was supposed to be sent to apple.





Mon Nov 19 13:35:12 2007
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A7BED): Kernel trap at 0x00382a42, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x00000008, CR3: 0x0103d000, CR4: 0x00002660
EAX: 0x00000000, EBX: 0x00000000, ECX: 0x1cf8c820, EDX: 0x00000000
CR2: 0x00000008, EBP: 0x1b3cfc38, ESI: 0x00000000, EDI: 0x00000001
EFL: 0x00010246, EIP: 0x00382a42, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x00000010
Error code: 0x00000000

Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x1b3cfa58 : 0x12b0e1 (0x455670 0x1b3cfa8c 0x133238 0x0)
0x1b3cfaa8 : 0x1a7bed (0x45ea20 0x382a42 0xe 0x45e1d4)
0x1b3cfb88 : 0x19e517 (0x1b3cfba0 0x9 0x1b3cfc38 0x382a42)
0x1b3cfb98 : 0x382a42 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
0x1b3cfc38 : 0xa4b75a (0x0 0x1b3cfe9c 0x1b3cfc88 0x213bc3)
0x1b3cfc78 : 0x239762 (0x30fb000 0x1cee5500 0x14 0x1)
0x1b3cfcb8 : 0x23b59e (0x1cee5500 0x14 0x1 0x0)
0x1b3cfdd8 : 0x23b5da (0x1cee5500 0x0 0x1b3cfe48 0x13669d)
0x1b3cfdf8 : 0x227536 (0x2 0x1cee5500 0x29c4e3c 0x0)
0x1b3cfe38 : 0x2165b0 (0x2 0x1cee5500 0x1b3cfe88 0x1368b0)
0x1b3cfec8 : 0x212d2f (0x3122804 0x2 0x1cee5500 0x3e5ecc)
0x1b3cfef8 : 0x213448 (0x5228e4 0x2e03ac8 0x1cf8c812 0x1b3cff4c)
0x1b3cff68 : 0x2136a6 (0x0 0x1cee5500 0x0 0x316962c)
0x1b3cffc8 : 0x19e2ec (0x3169604 0x0 0x1a10b5 0x29c5128)
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.parallels.kext.Pvsnet(3.0)@0xa48000->0xa4dfff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
9B18

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.1.0: Wed Oct 31 17:46:22 PDT 2007; root:xnu-1228.0.2~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBook2,1 (Mac-F4208CA9)
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:45 PM   #2
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Try searching on google groups. just go to google and one of the small titles will say groups. Its a bunch of forums but I can usually find solutions in there for most computer related problems
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:28 PM   #3
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I half expected this to be some kind of Cold MacDonalds thread >_<
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:33 PM   #4
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Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.parallels.kext.Pvsnet(3.0)@0xa48000->0xa4dfff
Does this mean you're running Parallels, the emulator software that lets you run windows apps? If so, how much of a pain to uninstall it?

-Charles
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:18 PM   #5
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also:

0x1b3cff68 : 0x2136a6 (0x0 0x1cee5500 0x0 0x316962c)
0x1b3cffc8 : 0x19e2ec (0x3169604 0x0 0x1a10b5 0x29c5128)

this means that you left your muffins in the oven

Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):

and this means that you have to stop collecting macross action figures if you wanna have a girl in your room

I understand the matrix...
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Old 11-21-2007, 01:44 AM   #6
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****SOMEONE ADMITS THAT MACS DO ACTUALLY CRASH****
Add this to your calendars: November the 20th - Computing Liberation Day



This is a historical event, I think I am going to cry...


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Old 11-21-2007, 02:48 AM   #7
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The man vs. the Machine
I can crash ANY computer: PC with win XP, Vista, Linux, Dos, or a Sun with Solaris. Even a Mac. The mac is just harder to kill because you can't do anything with it, so you can mess up.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:11 AM   #8
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ive intentionally crashed ubuntu and knoppix... I was SO bored.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:14 PM   #9
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Add this to your calendars: November the 20th - Computing Liberation Day



This is a historical event, I think I am going to cry...


Turned out to be Kernel panics caused by one of my application not having been updated to match the new Leopard. Kernel panics are caused by faulty apps or hardware, so I'm afraid this "historical" event was a dud.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:29 AM   #10
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Turned out to be Kernel panics caused by one of my application not having been updated to match the new Leopard. Kernel panics are caused by faulty apps or hardware, so I'm afraid this "historical" event was a dud.
Which program? I haven't upgraded to Leopard, I'm a bit afraid to.

-Charles, who has 4 macs, and thinks of all of them as BSD machines...
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:41 AM   #11
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Um, faulty apps should definitely NOT be able to cause kernel panics! That would be bad indeed and result in a very unstable system.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:04 AM   #12
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Leopard incompatibilities

http://www.macintouch.com/leopard/compat.html
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:20 PM   #13
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Mine was caused the by the torrent program, Azerus. Switched to using Terminal and has not had problems since, and I've even left the computer on for two straight days.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:47 PM   #14
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Um, faulty apps should definitely NOT be able to cause kernel panics! That would be bad indeed and result in a very unstable system.
Well obviously you've never used software written by me.... ;o)

I think it's likely that I'll stick to Tiger for another year or so. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to handle the growing pains of Leopard. But hey, big thank yous to all you early adopter types for taking a hit for the team!

-Charles
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:23 AM   #15
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Turned out to be Kernel panics caused by one of my application not having been updated to match the new Leopard. Kernel panics are caused by faulty apps or hardware, so I'm afraid this "historical" event was a dud.
I totally agree with ejstans: a faulty app should not be able to cause a kernel panic, no matter how badly coded. To cause a kernel panic the code need to be run in kernel space, which hopefully most apps are not. A bad driver or faulty hardware is probably the safest bet.
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:59 PM   #16
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[quote]I half expected this to be some kind of Cold MacDonalds thread >_
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:41 PM   #17
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. A kernel panic can be caused by damaged or incompatible software or, more rarely, damaged or incompatible hardware.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106227

I haven't had kernel panics since I stopped using Azerus, so I'm just going to assume that was the cause.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:03 AM   #18
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If software (non-privileged code) can cause a kernel panic, something is broken in the kernel. So I guess Apple is saying their kernel is buggy...
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:40 AM   #19
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What's a BSD? Lucky dog!! Four?? I was going to get a Win Vista PC until I learned about how many problems it had, and how Gates made it so that many programs were incompatable with it. Apparently, there was even a lawsuit over Direct X not working on it. I don't know the details and I don't know if they went through with it or anything.
BSD = Berkely Software Distribution. A UNIX derivative.
And Gates did very probably not "make many programs incompatible". That is just the price you need to pay on upgrading an operating system. Things will be done differently, and stuff will break.

So, I wanted a Mac. But, the Mac I want costs an arm and a leg. All Macs that are decent do. Even the laptops are. A top end Microsoft PC costs less than a top end Mac from what I've found. So, my Dad gave me his old Win XP laptop from 2 1/2 years ago so I can wait to see what happens with Vista and maybe save up for a Mac. They are good for composing music among other things. Why the heck does everyone think that Macs are so great with music? It's the same hardware as a PC, and the operating system is a form of UNIX.
My laptop is ~2 years old, and apart from the latest games, there is really nothing I can't do well.
Unless you have a very good reason, then you don't need Vista. Microsoft will support XP for a few years more. I think I can download Vista for free as a Computer Engineering student through Microsoft Academic Alliance, but I am not going to. I am happy with Ubuntu. Penguins are nice
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:42 AM   #20
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I haven't had kernel panics since I stopped using Azerus, so I'm just going to assume that was the cause.
I really doubt that is the reason, but if you haven't had crashes then I guess all is well. Azureus is a horrible program anyway
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