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Old 06-10-2009, 02:46 AM   #1
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Default Weapon Injuries
Time to get morbid. Yeah yeah we have had injury-related threads in the past, but this time it's gonna get bloody.

What injuries have you done to yourself (or others) with JSA-related weapons?

No 'ooh I hurt my achilles' or 'I'z got teh blistaz'. We want gruesomeness. What counts? Iaito, bokuto, shinai, jo, naginata and, of course, the gentle shinken.

Others are fine as long as they include crushing, cutting, maiming, impaling, bludgeoning or crucifying...
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:50 AM   #2
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Doing enbu at the will adams, performing oroshi, popped my left wrist, and split my scaphoid, finished the display but my wrist crunched everytime i cut, bone completely turned to dust now....
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:57 AM   #3
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Ooh, sexy.

Mine:

1st - stabbed myself in the thigh with my iaito doing MJER ukenagashi. Did the chinugui but pushed it off my knee by mistake - so I pushed it back! AARRGGHH! No stitches, but lots of claret.

2nd - cut myself with my shinken 1hr before my yondan shinza. Doing shihogiri, a bit too much effort into the draw, the monouchi came through the saya and bit into the hand. Cut was long (full width of my palm across the diagonal) but not deep. Spent an hour trying to stop it bleeding on my black hakama before putting my grading whites on!

3rd - broken phalange on my left hand by dumbass shijo (hehe he might be reading this) during European Jodo Championships. As uchidachi I cut shomenuchi in hissage, shijo brought jo up to catch sword, but all he actually caught was a round of f*cks off me. Had to do shodan grading later in the day with a busted finger.
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:59 AM   #4
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Shinken bites doing Iwanami and Tsuki Kome.....

Early-learner stabs with kissaki during [inefficient] noto - - a few times.

Doing a demonstration at a Japanese vehicle dealership opening........
Sat and I were showing Tachi Uchi;

I was doing one form - he moved into a different form;
OOPS!.... seriously bokken-bashed knuckles.

One time being a bare-headed motodachi for my kendo teacher - - he was demonstrating a fierce and rapid men cut - - and forgot to stop.
WOW - where did those stars come from...??

Big egg-like lump on head - serious bruise.
[Still have not paid him back for that one]

Practicing jodo one night with a cracked rib;
sensei insisted on tsuki to said rib - twice......
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Old 06-10-2009, 03:35 AM   #5
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Injuries to date, cut myself w/ Shinken doing Iwanami. After practice it about 4 times go to do it on 5th time, get past the nasty flip the kisseki part, go into tsuki, retract too much and my hand barely falls on kisseki!

Don`t remember what waza, but cut my hand slightly w/ mogito, just a small line across hand, no blood or anything.

nicked up right hands thumb a little w/ grip too close to tsuba.

Couple of holes in iaido dogi.
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Old 06-10-2009, 03:46 AM   #6
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my worst was doing Oroshi (1983), As I threw the sword up and went to take hold with left hand I mistimed and sliced into my left forefinger. 13 stitches, 5 internal holding arteries together, 8 outside. lots of blood. When I bent my finger the whole side of my finger at the joint came away. I could see bone, severed artery. NICE!!!

Apart from that other minor injuries pale into insignificance.

Cut my hakama in my first nanadan attempt. Doing uke nagashi, when I rested the monouchi on mu right knee, the kissaki went under a fold in the material. As I swung it to make noto it cut 2 parallel holes in the material each side of the crease. That needs stitches, but no blood.
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Old 06-10-2009, 03:54 AM   #7
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Hi all, I'm new to the forums and also quite new to kendo (been practicing for like 4 months or so now).
I haven't had any bad injuries, but one was quite silly... We had to practice a small men I think. The one where you move the shinai to the tip of your nose. And well, I did it a bit to wild and actually hit myself >_>

Well that, and almost tripping in my brand new hakama last saturday are about the worst injuries I have had. ^^
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Old 06-10-2009, 04:14 AM   #8
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I got scrotum-tsuki'd during jigeiko. Wasn't as severe as the guy on youtube but did stun me. After that I went nuts!! >o

[pun not intended]
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Old 06-10-2009, 04:26 AM   #9
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Doing Makko with focus on KILL over technique, I drew fast, with my thumb in contact with the edge of my shinken. OUCH! Once the bleeding stopped it looked like a burst haggis. It left a lovely inch long scar as a reminder.
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:32 AM   #10
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When I was first learning men-taiatari-men, prior to being ready for wearing bogu, I was practicing with sensei, and on one attempt, I attacked with, shall we say, a great deal of vigor. I struck his men as accurately as my woeful excuse for skill would permit, and continued on to tsuba-zerai, whereupon my momentum continued to drive me forward until I inadvertently head-butted his men gane - specifically his tategane, splitting my forehead open, but only superficially. Riding the adrenaline of good training, I took little, if any, notice of this, and continued with the hiki men to finish the drill. Once I'd returned to my starting position, sensei raised one hand to stop me from going into my next attempt, and asked "Did you just run into my grill?" "Yes, I think I did." was my reply. "Are you okay?" "Yup." and at that point I launched into my next attempt. A few minutes later, he noticed a trickle of blood running down my face: "Are you SURE you're okay?" "Yup... MEN!!!"
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:52 AM   #11
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Hmmmm ... not sure whether I should consider myself a winner or a loser for not having ever had any major injuries. Bruises, swollen knuckles, bumps on the head, minor bleeding from the shinken. I'm either doing lots of things right, or I'm just not trying hard enough!
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:32 AM   #12
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Just curious, will such a self inflicted, but still accidental happening be seen as a negative during shinsa? The reigi aspect..


Cut my hakama in my first nanadan attempt. Doing uke nagashi, when I rested the monouchi on mu right knee, the kissaki went under a fold in the material. As I swung it to make noto it cut 2 parallel holes in the material each side of the crease. That needs stitches, but no blood.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:03 AM   #13
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I tripped on my hakama during ukenegashi and stabbed myself in the arm.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:39 AM   #14
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Just curious, will such a self inflicted, but still accidental happening be seen as a negative during shinsa? The reigi aspect..
Did they see it happen. Having been a shinsa-in many times I know just how much you do see. However, in this case the sword was so sharp and the cut so clean I didn't even know I'd done it till I came off. Each cut is about 1cm long.

I failed the grading, but I don't think that was the reason. Just being generally crap had more to do with it I think.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:03 AM   #15
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Only been doing this a year and a half, so there's still plenty of time for me to f* myself up more thoroughly, but so far (all with iaito):

1) Getting a little overzealous in noto, and extending too far, dropping the kissaki into and then out of the koiguchi, poking myself in the left finger. I've done this a few times, only once or twice drawing a couple drops of blood, but no stitches.

2) Trying to add the hips into the draw and upwards cut of Kesagiri, I mistimed it once and started my hip motion too early, driving my left hand into the kissaki. Just a few drops of blood, no stitches, but it did hurt. Learned my lesson after that one time!

3) Tsuki'd my gi while doing tsuka-ate during my first shinsa. I was still awarded nikyu, and my mom stitched up my gi. I'm now very careful to make sure (as my sensei has always warned us) that my kissaki is beyond my arm before the tsuki, so that the sayabiki (is it still called that in this case?) doesn't bring my left arm into the path of the kissaki.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:24 AM   #16
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Gouged my kissaki into my left forearm during (ZNKR seitei) uke nagashi -- reached up to grab the tsuka before I had turned the sword around.

The usual kissaki finger bites as a mudansha, especially early on when I was still handling the kissaki with my fingers during noto.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:32 AM   #17
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Did they see it happen. Having been a shinsa-in many times I know just how much you do see. However, in this case the sword was so sharp and the cut so clean I didn't even know I'd done it till I came off. Each cut is about 1cm long.
I understand. And an unforeseen benefit of a sharp sword..
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Old 06-10-2009, 02:29 PM   #18
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Awww. When I read 'weapon injuries' I thought this thread was totally about something else.

I had so many good uns too!!

Unhappy.
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Old 06-10-2009, 03:56 PM   #19
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...kissaki is beyond my arm before the tsuki, so that the sayabiki (is it still called that in this case?)
To the best of my limited experience and knowledge, the motion you describe is indeed still called sayabiki.

Awww. When I read 'weapon injuries' I thought this thread was totally about something else.

I had so many good uns too!!

Unhappy.
Leave it to Sats... I REALLY should have seen something like this coming... guess I'm more distracted than I thought.
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:27 PM   #20
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I tripped on my hakama during ukenegashi and stabbed myself in the arm.
bluuurk.... Im feeling a little queasy after reading all these... uughhhh...
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