[AromeWahmaron]

However I'm still very new at this

Yes of course. Nothing I wrote was meant to be personal.

People who enter the Mahayana path sometimes get overly enamoured with the idea of themselves as liberators/saviors, but in reality a great deal of difficult work is required, much of it having to do with one's own afflictions

Sure. One can get puffed up with the perceived superiority and importance of this then go off to work and have a confrontation with a colleague which could have been avoided with more fruitful contemplation and practice.

I'm sure you know all this from your years in Vajrayana practice -- I'm just calling attention to it since it is a frequent source of confusion.

Yes - to begin with I used to want to 'save' and convert everyone I knew....until it finally dawned on me that I had to learn to swim out of the waters of ignorance myself, before I would perhaps be able to see and act with a little more clarity and insight in the future !

Anyway, Lazy Eye the Beginners forum isn't the place for you and I to start debating each other my friend, - so I'm off to do some offline thingies needing attention !