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Old 03-24-2010, 01:57 PM   #1
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Default Do we eradicate emotions or develop love and compassion?
As the question.

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Old 03-24-2010, 04:33 PM   #2
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We cause to dissipate unwholesome emotions, and cause to arise wholesome emotions.
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Old 03-24-2010, 06:54 PM   #3
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We use emotions to be an object of observing our mind. Wholesome or Unwholesome are the same in term of insight development.

Loving or Metta without Equanimity (upekkha) may transform to Lust.
Compassion (karuna) without Equanimity may transform to Sadness.
Joy (mudita) without Equanimity may transform to Envy.

To be found that the emotions just something that is not mind. Arising because something and disappear because something are a good practice.

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Old 03-24-2010, 08:05 PM   #4
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Loving or Metta without Equanimity (upekkha) may transform to Lust.
Compassion (karuna) without Equanimity may transform to Sadness.
Joy (mudita) without Equanimity may transform to Envy.
Very helpful description Sukitlek. I guess it comes down to how mindful we are of our own motives etc.

Anyone got any other thoughts on this?
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Old 03-24-2010, 09:31 PM   #5
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I agree with what Sukitlek is telling here. Emotions are not to be erradicated. Are to be observed so to be a wittness of them and not to be a prissioner of them. In that way we can master them so to use them wisely... Here I can take equanimity as that wise way of mastering them.

Again, in my tradition we understand this through the 10 Bulls doctrine that is a very Zen way of understanding this.

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Old 03-24-2010, 09:34 PM   #6
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Do we eradicate emotions or develop love and compassion?


Developing love and compassion by themselves doesn't necessarily help us to deal with troublesome emotions if they arise unexpectedly.
Extreme emotions can still overcome people who haven't developed other practices and investigations .

So we practice loving kindness and compassion and develop awareness, equanimity and wisdom. There is no need to consciously try to eradicate or suppress emotions, with correct practice they lessen gradually. There's no 'either, or'.
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:18 PM   #7
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so to be a wittness of them and not to be a prissioner of them
Beautifully expressed Kaarine. I think that's the key.
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Old 03-24-2010, 10:19 PM   #8
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Loving or Metta without Equanimity (upekkha) may transform to Lust.
Compassion (karuna) without Equanimity may transform to Sadness.
Joy (mudita) without Equanimity may transform to Envy.
Equanimity is the key, as I am slowly learning. Thanks for the quote,Sukitlek. Very succinct, very useful.
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Old 03-24-2010, 11:13 PM   #9
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Equanimity is the key,
It is a beautifull and core practice wich can give you a lot of room to develop compassion, mindfulness and a deep understanding of things in our daily life.

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Old 03-24-2010, 11:13 PM   #10
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Old 03-25-2010, 12:59 AM   #11
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Emotions are valuable tools if they are neutrally observed without getting hypnotized by them. We don't have to believe every emo energy that rises up, and we benefit if we view these movements of energy as indicators of the quality of our relationship with the appearances, circumstances, and patterns of existence.

Compassion arises naturally in direct proportion to the degree of clarity we've cultivated re: the nature of existence - and when we begin to see how trapped living beings are in non-beneficial patterns of unaware agitated reactivity to the appearances, circumstances, and patterns of existence.

Contentment and joy (bliss) arise naturally in direct proportion to the degree of clarity and compassion we've cultivated.
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:06 AM   #12
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Contentment and joy (bliss) arise naturally in direct proportion to the degree of clarity and compassion we've cultivated.
Beautifull and true...,

Thanks Pink

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Old 03-26-2010, 06:55 AM   #13
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Well stated.
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Old 03-28-2010, 10:21 PM   #14
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Thanks Kris,

I have been for some years on this... I have no rush to "do more" about this, because, in my case, this is not so easy.

Namaste

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Old 03-30-2010, 09:14 AM   #15
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Keep watching as the storm clouds pass.

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Old 03-30-2010, 09:18 AM   #17
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So we practice loving kindness and compassion and develop awareness, equanimity and wisdom. There is no need to consciously try to eradicate or suppress emotions, with correct practice they lessen gradually.
Very true Aloka.


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Old 04-09-2010, 01:39 AM   #18
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Refining our perception of existence has the effect of refining our emotions.
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Old 04-09-2010, 06:33 AM   #19
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" Perfect emotional maturity
One of these days...in Jerusalem.
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