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Old 03-29-2010, 05:24 PM   #1
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Default Dabba Sutta: About Dabba Mallaputta Ud 8.9
A very interesting sutta. It's short, so have a read and let us know what you think.
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:31 PM   #2
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:32 PM   #3
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Old 03-29-2010, 05:38 PM   #4
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A very interesting sutta. It's short, so have a read and let us know what you think.
Seems Dabba was demonstrating his complete freedom and his final release from samsaric dukkha and "rebirth ". I'm not sure whether one should interpret it literally or not though, so I'll be interested to hear what others have to say.
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:27 PM   #5
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I'm not really seeing any Teaching here; back in the day I'd have made the ready conclusion that this Sutta reflected a kundalini attainment, but even if this reading is granted it is nonetheless a description of Release as opposed to Path instruction.
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Old 03-29-2010, 06:43 PM   #6
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"Now is the time for my total Unbinding, O One-Well-Gone!" One day...one fine day...it will be me saying this....sigh...
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Old 03-29-2010, 08:54 PM   #7
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a description of Release as opposed to Path instruction
True, but interesting nonetheless. Why do you think the instructions to attain this kind of release were lost to the suttas?

It reminds me a little of this:
Ja-lu: 'Ja ' lus – the rainbow body. Dzogchen practitioners who have mastered the Trék-chod phase of Dzogchen in which pure and total presence is stabilised, are able to practice Tö-gal. Tö-gal is the final practice of Dzogchen, which enables the yogi or yogini to dissolve his or her physical body into the essence of the elements at the time of death. The yogi or yogini then disappears into a body of light, leaving only hair, toe & finger nails, and nasal septum behind. URL

Anyone else seen anything similar in the suttas?
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Old 03-29-2010, 10:33 PM   #8
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Phra Ananda also did like this :-

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When Ananda was on his way from Magadha to Vesāli, there to die, Ajātasattu heard that he was coming, and, with his retinue, followed him up to the Rohini River. The chiefs of Vesali also heard the news and went out to meet him, and both parties reached the river banks. Ānanda, not wishing to incur the displeasure of either party, entered into the state of tejokasina in the middle of the river and his body went up in flames. His remains were divided into two portions, one for each party, and they built cetiyas for their enshrinement.

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Old 03-30-2010, 03:55 AM   #9
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Thanks sukitlek. Are there any recent accounts of Thai monks doing such things?
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:14 AM   #10
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Regarding Rainbow Body Kris, I can't find anything similar in the suttas so far, but apart from that you'll find its mentioned here :


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Free Tibetan Buddhist texts are available on that site.
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:51 AM   #11
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Thanks Aloka-D
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:02 AM   #12
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In MN 127 - Anuruddha Sutta, ''radiance'' is mentioned. (in the Bhikkhu Bodhi translation)

Verse 7 - "There are, householder, these four kinds of reappearance [in a future state of] being. What four? Here someone abides resolved and pervading "limited radiance " on the dissolution of the body, after death, he appears in the company of the gods of Limited Radiance. Here someone abides resolved upon and pervading "immeasurable radiance".... "defiled radiance"....."pure radiance "......etc

The sutta can be read here, except 'effulgence' is used instead of 'radiance' in this translation.

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Old 03-31-2010, 11:05 PM   #13
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Like the flies, that do not think, this that we eat, drink and carry away is permanent. Yet wherever they settle, there they enjoy themselves. Householder, in the same manner it does not occur to those gods. We are permanent, will stand eternity. Yet wherever they dwell, there they enjoy themselves Interesting comparison in that sutta Aloka-D. Flies and gods.

Thanks for the link.
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Old 04-01-2010, 03:37 AM   #14
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There's an article here where anatta is likened to a rainbow

"Physical and biological aspects of anatta " by Edward Greenly


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Old 04-02-2010, 03:35 AM   #15
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Old 04-02-2010, 09:52 AM   #16
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