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**D6Ri5u13** · 08-03-2012, 01:24 AM

Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares.

Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Marko does have a good point (cringe!). Ferrari have been using a similar system that Red Bull employs.

**wasssallx** · 08-03-2012, 01:27 AM

There are many Ferrari fans right now gripping their throats and choking with the realisation they've been sticking the boot into Red Bull on here and many other discussion forums

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I'm sure these teams aren't the only ones and I'm half expecting McLaren to be busted any time soon lol.

Cheaters, all of 'em.

**lLianneForbess** · 08-03-2012, 03:40 AM

Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares.

Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Marko does have a good point (cringe!). Ferrari have been using a similar system that Red Bull employs.

I didn´t care about RBR either... but this thread is pretty pathetic if it's based solely on that article. It's only about Marko (a reasonable man

) saying stuff and Ferrari denying them.

**qQVXpYM6** · 08-03-2012, 04:20 AM

The only thing we know for sure is that RB got busted in Canada. And that Marko is a moron.......

**traithJah** · 08-03-2012, 06:59 AM

you would think that F1 (FIA) would have it on all cars an adjustable switch in the spot of the ride height adjusters

Ferrari denies ride-height system claims - Yahoo! Eurosport UK
Red Bull found itself last weekend having to deny suggestions that it breached the sport's regulations by having a system on its car that could adjust the ride height without the use of tools.

**Inconykic** · 08-03-2012, 07:19 AM

Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares.

Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Marko does have a good point (cringe!). Ferrari have been using a similar system that Red Bull employs.

I'm going to need more than the word of Helmut Marko before I accept that Ferrari are/were cheating. Marko's team were actually caught by the FIA. Ferrari are merely being accused by another team, and a team that has been repeatedly asked to change their car. Not exactly "busted" as you put it.

There are many Ferrari fans right now gripping their throats and choking with the realisation they've been sticking the boot into Red Bull on here and many other discussion forums .

I'm sure these teams aren't the only ones and I'm half expecting McLaren to be busted any time soon lol.

Cheaters, all of 'em.

It wouldn't surprise me if other teams, Ferrari included, have or had similar devices but until the FIA confirms it, Red Bull are the only team to have been proven to have an illegal adjuster on their car. So it's boots away as far as I'm concerned.

**Adamanta** · 08-03-2012, 05:20 PM

Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Yet another journalist who doesn't know what "refute" means

**AngelinaTheElf** · 08-03-2012, 05:38 PM

Ferrari are cheating ? Prove it...or shut up

**RedImmik** · 08-04-2012, 01:05 PM

I'm on Pino's side

**arraxylap** · 08-04-2012, 06:31 PM

I'm on Pino's side

I didn't really worry about this story until you said that. Pino's usually wrong so perhaps there's something in it after all

**prmnwoks** · 08-04-2012, 08:39 PM

Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares.

That's because Red Bull is just some simple drink, and Ferrari is so much more... With that said, Red Bull is just jealous because Ferrari seems to have a better car on a couple of circuits. Have they proven anything? No.

**kilibry** · 08-04-2012, 09:50 PM

I didn't really worry about this story until you said that. Pino's usually wrong so perhaps there's something in it after all

I'm usually wrong as well, and two negatives equal a positive, so we should be alright

**raspirator** · 08-07-2012, 01:45 PM

Given that Red Bull have now won a race (Monaco) and finished on the podium (on the road - Germany) with cars that had "illegal" parts on them within a week of those results, I'd keep quiet if I was them. Mind you this is probably just a diversion tactic.

And Ferrari have been cheating since 2010. It's a brilliant device called Fernando Alonso.

**buchmausar** · 08-08-2012, 03:06 AM

Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares.

Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

Marko does have a good point (cringe!). Ferrari have been using a similar system that Red Bull employs.

You trust the faeces that come from the lying mouth of Marko?

**autolubitelone** · 08-08-2012, 09:55 AM

You trust the faeces that come from the lying mouth of Marko?

No, I was being facetious! My point is that I don't trust anyone in F1. Red Bull have been the team to beat for the past 2 years (could've been 3 if it wasn't for those Brawn paper towel "cheaters"), and now there's a glaring spotlight on them. Red Bull have not been disqualified from any race nor has there been a protest from another team. Why? Because Red Bull are within the regulations.

**TubOppomo** · 08-09-2012, 11:08 AM

No, I was being facetious! My point is that I don't trust anyone in F1. Red Bull have been the team to beat for the past 2 years (could've been 3 if it wasn't for those Brawn paper towel "cheaters"), and now there's a glaring spotlight on them. Red Bull have not been disqualified from any race nor has there been a protest from another team. Why? Because Red Bull are within the regulations.

How did Brawn cheat?

**CealialactBek** · 08-09-2012, 11:19 AM

Brawn could've had a long comfortable career as a coach, and director at Ferrari as opposed to the hell he has been through (that is Mercedes). I didn't pretend to know how far ahead from the field they started as Brawn, at least he got JB a title with Brawn F1

Although I think he could have given it to Rubens, being the elder-statesman. But either (Rubens) or Bunsen) would've won the wdc if he had someone like Jaques as a teammate. Scrub bro's

**AbeldeldepBug** · 08-11-2012, 06:27 AM

How did Brawn cheat?

They didn't. That's why I placed the word cheaters in quotations. The same exact complaints about Red Bull being cheats today were being said about Brawn in 2009.

**Lipitorseffec** · 08-11-2012, 08:34 AM

They didn't. That's why I placed the word cheaters in quotations. The same exact complaints about Red Bull being cheats today were being said about Brawn in 2009.

Brawn had a clever design! brawntoaster.jpg

08-03-2012, 01:24 AM	#1
D6Ri5u13 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 561 Senior Member	Ferrari are cheating! Manually adjusting the ride height? Busted. Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares. Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Marko does have a good point (cringe!). Ferrari have been using a similar system that Red Bull employs. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-03-2012, 01:27 AM	#2
wasssallx Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	There are many Ferrari fans right now gripping their throats and choking with the realisation they've been sticking the boot into Red Bull on here and many other discussion forums . I'm sure these teams aren't the only ones and I'm half expecting McLaren to be busted any time soon lol. Cheaters, all of 'em. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-03-2012, 03:40 AM	#3
lLianneForbess Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares. Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Marko does have a good point (cringe!). Ferrari have been using a similar system that Red Bull employs. I didn´t care about RBR either... but this thread is pretty pathetic if it's based solely on that article. It's only about Marko (a reasonable man ) saying stuff and Ferrari denying them. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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qQVXpYM6 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	The only thing we know for sure is that RB got busted in Canada. And that Marko is a moron....... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-03-2012, 06:59 AM	#5
traithJah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 611 Senior Member	you would think that F1 (FIA) would have it on all cars an adjustable switch in the spot of the ride height adjusters Ferrari denies ride-height system claims - Yahoo! Eurosport UK Red Bull found itself last weekend having to deny suggestions that it breached the sport's regulations by having a system on its car that could adjust the ride height without the use of tools. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-03-2012, 07:19 AM	#6
Inconykic Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 369 Senior Member	Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares. Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Marko does have a good point (cringe!). Ferrari have been using a similar system that Red Bull employs. I'm going to need more than the word of Helmut Marko before I accept that Ferrari are/were cheating. Marko's team were actually caught by the FIA. Ferrari are merely being accused by another team, and a team that has been repeatedly asked to change their car. Not exactly "busted" as you put it. There are many Ferrari fans right now gripping their throats and choking with the realisation they've been sticking the boot into Red Bull on here and many other discussion forums . I'm sure these teams aren't the only ones and I'm half expecting McLaren to be busted any time soon lol. Cheaters, all of 'em. It wouldn't surprise me if other teams, Ferrari included, have or had similar devices but until the FIA confirms it, Red Bull are the only team to have been proven to have an illegal adjuster on their car. So it's boots away as far as I'm concerned. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Adamanta Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 430 Senior Member	Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Yet another journalist who doesn't know what "refute" means Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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AngelinaTheElf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	Ferrari are cheating ? Prove it...or shut up Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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arraxylap Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	I'm on Pino's side I didn't really worry about this story until you said that. Pino's usually wrong so perhaps there's something in it after all Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-04-2012, 08:39 PM	#11
prmnwoks Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 372 Senior Member	Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares. That's because Red Bull is just some simple drink, and Ferrari is so much more... With that said, Red Bull is just jealous because Ferrari seems to have a better car on a couple of circuits. Have they proven anything? No. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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kilibry Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	I didn't really worry about this story until you said that. Pino's usually wrong so perhaps there's something in it after all I'm usually wrong as well, and two negatives equal a positive, so we should be alright Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-07-2012, 01:45 PM	#13
raspirator Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 419 Senior Member	Given that Red Bull have now won a race (Monaco) and finished on the podium (on the road - Germany) with cars that had "illegal" parts on them within a week of those results, I'd keep quiet if I was them. Mind you this is probably just a diversion tactic. And Ferrari have been cheating since 2010. It's a brilliant device called Fernando Alonso. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-08-2012, 03:06 AM	#14
buchmausar Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 548 Senior Member	Red Bull does it, they're called cheaters. Ferrari does it, nobody cares. Ferrari denies having a manually-adjusted ride-height system like Red Bull - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com Marko does have a good point (cringe!). Ferrari have been using a similar system that Red Bull employs. You trust the faeces that come from the lying mouth of Marko? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-08-2012, 09:55 AM	#15
autolubitelone Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 491 Senior Member	You trust the faeces that come from the lying mouth of Marko? No, I was being facetious! My point is that I don't trust anyone in F1. Red Bull have been the team to beat for the past 2 years (could've been 3 if it wasn't for those Brawn paper towel "cheaters"), and now there's a glaring spotlight on them. Red Bull have not been disqualified from any race nor has there been a protest from another team. Why? Because Red Bull are within the regulations. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-09-2012, 11:08 AM	#16
TubOppomo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	No, I was being facetious! My point is that I don't trust anyone in F1. Red Bull have been the team to beat for the past 2 years (could've been 3 if it wasn't for those Brawn paper towel "cheaters"), and now there's a glaring spotlight on them. Red Bull have not been disqualified from any race nor has there been a protest from another team. Why? Because Red Bull are within the regulations. How did Brawn cheat? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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CealialactBek Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 525 Senior Member	Brawn could've had a long comfortable career as a coach, and director at Ferrari as opposed to the hell he has been through (that is Mercedes). I didn't pretend to know how far ahead from the field they started as Brawn, at least he got JB a title with Brawn F1 Although I think he could have given it to Rubens, being the elder-statesman. But either (Rubens) or Bunsen) would've won the wdc if he had someone like Jaques as a teammate. Scrub bro's Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-11-2012, 06:27 AM	#18
AbeldeldepBug Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 600 Senior Member	How did Brawn cheat? They didn't. That's why I placed the word cheaters in quotations. The same exact complaints about Red Bull being cheats today were being said about Brawn in 2009. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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08-11-2012, 08:34 AM	#19
Lipitorseffec Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 407 Senior Member	They didn't. That's why I placed the word cheaters in quotations. The same exact complaints about Red Bull being cheats today were being said about Brawn in 2009. Brawn had a clever design! brawntoaster.jpg Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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