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Old 05-28-2012, 03:34 AM   #21
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Donkeys: Button for whining about Kovalainen's driving, Grosjean for once again colliding with somebody.

Knights: Heikki, Vettel.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:40 AM   #22
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Donkeys: Button for whining about Kovalainen's driving, Grosjean for once again colliding with somebody.
On the BBC coverage Button said Heikii placed his car well and had good exits but was 2 seconds a lap slower than him. Button was pretty hard on himself for his poor qualifying and poor weekend overall. I didn't get a sense he was criticizing Heikki's driving but then again I'm aware these guys give interviews to many sources, but Jenson seemed downbeat but not blaming anyone.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:44 AM   #23
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On the BBC coverage Button said Heikii placed his car well and had good exits but was 2 seconds a lap slower than him. Button was pretty hard on himself for his poor qualifying and poor weekend overall. I didn't get a sense he was criticizing Heikki's driving but then again I'm aware these guys give interviews to many sources, but Jenson seemed downbeat but not blaming anyone.
Ok, maybe somebody overstated it somewhere I read it, wouldn't be the first time. Jenson didn't probably realise that finishing 12th could mean 10th place in the constructors for Caterham and that's worth millions.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:47 AM   #24
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Donkey- mmm well Button I guess and the Kimster seemed to do nothing but hold people up. I rather thought he might win this one

Knight- Heikki K for running so well for so much of the race
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:52 AM   #25
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Ok, maybe somebody overstated it somewhere I read it, wouldn't be the first time. Jenson didn't probably realise that finishing 12th could mean 10th place in the constructors for Caterham and that's worth millions.
Thats probably the case. Button had no problem with Heikki's driving and would have no issue with the fact they were both racing for position I wouldn't have thought. Jenson knows as well as you and I how much a position like that would mean to a lower team and I got the impression Jenson was annoyed at how his whole weekend had gone.
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Old 05-28-2012, 06:35 AM   #26
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Knights - Webber and Heikki, especially the latter, I'd be proud if I owned a caterham now!
Donkeys - Custard, and the Mclaren strategy people.

Honourable mention to Massa for performing much better today than in previous races!
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:00 AM   #27
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Driver of the race is Heikki for me. Mark drove a very measured race and controlled the race well, but no one drove beyond the capabilities of their car more than Heikki did.

Honourable mentions to Mark, Alonso and Vettel.

The donkeys (of the weekend) were: Maldonado, Perez, Kimi and Button. The latter two just didn't have the pace this week.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:24 PM   #28
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Donkey - Maldonado. He seems to have a long rap sheet in Monaco. It may be the crowd, the casino or the yachts that set him off. A session with a shrink would definitely help.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:15 PM   #29
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The ultimate Donkey is Maldonado. Others in the running are McLaren pit crew for again costing Hamilton places through the pit stops and Mercedes for yet again providing Schumacher with a car that didn't last the race.

My drive of the race goes to Alonso.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:48 PM   #30
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The situation with Jenson and Heikki reminded me the 2001 race, I think, in which Coulthard has great troubles with Bernoldi. So while I do not blame the defending driver I understand Jenson's frustrations and don't give much credit to Kovalainen - defending in Monte is not that hard. On the other hand, unlike David, who started from the back because of problems, Jenson has only himself to blame for his grid position.
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:10 PM   #31
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:30 PM   #32
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Webber and Kovy stood out for their performances and Ross ges a mention too for a strategy that bought Seb back into a position his performance didn't warrent.

A few donks but Pastor gets a mention as does Button but perhaps Monaco gets a vote for being unsuitable as a F1 venue. Yes, I know about the history but really???
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:53 PM   #33
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F1 won't be the same for me without Monaco.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:21 AM   #34
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F1 won't be the same for me without Monaco.
Maybe it won't,but it is one of the worst tracks to overtake on ,if at all.The race was won at the start and in the pit stops,and it's a procession.Let's get to the tracks where we see proper racing and plenty of overtaking,instead of a procession
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:50 AM   #35
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Maybe it won't,but it is one of the worst tracks to overtake on ,if at all.The race was won at the start and in the pit stops,and it's a procession.Let's get to the tracks where we see proper racing and plenty of overtaking,instead of a procession
there's more to f1 than overtaking... we have enough 'show' on other tracks.

leaving that aside... Maldonado would be the donkey... he really went from hero to zero in a spectacular fashion... as for driver of the race I think Webber, Rosberg, Alonso, Vettel and Kovalienen would all be strong contenders.
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Old 05-29-2012, 09:53 AM   #36
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I'd like to see the overhead video. The onboard did make it look like Roman had very little room. I have a sense that the above shot was after Fernando moved back over. With the contact Roman didn't have that option so quickly. Great shot either way though.
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:30 PM   #37
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You are right, it would be best to see a series of shots, this one comes after Alonso and grosjean come together and the track narrows on the outside

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Old 05-30-2012, 12:08 AM   #38
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Regarding Grosjean I found this picture.



Which indicates that he really didn't have much choice as Alonso wanted to get past Hamilton, which pushed Grosjean into Schumacher as a result.
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Old 05-30-2012, 12:46 AM   #39
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well if the white and yellow lines run paralell for any distance, it would seem in the still from above, that Alonso is actually further left than he was in jens' pic...
Alonso had no space on his right (check out Ham's right wheel on the yellow line and Alonso's left on the white line), so it looks like Roman got spooked and moved a bit too far right, most likely not having seen MS there?
Unlucky his RL broke and not FA's, but such is life at Monaco.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:33 AM   #40
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Unlucky his RL broke and not FA's, but such is life at Monaco.
Not just unlucky, but very unfortunate.
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