[thakitt]

Ferrari's Director of Defence:

And remember: no Ferrari no F1. It's as simple as that

Sorry I had a chuckle about this. Theres nothing more annoying than the blind assumption that any team on the grid is bigger than the sport itself. F1 is steeped in history and Ferrari are a hefty part of that, but lets not get carried away with the notion that if Ferrari left, the sport would crumble because thats utter balls. The sport would be poorer, but it would continue and the technology display would still be there.

[ensuppono]

Ferrari threaten before they negotiate to strenthen their position.
It's as simple as that....

[boiffrona]

And remember: no Ferrari no F1. It's as simple as that

Surely you mean "No Ferrari in F1 = loads more money for the other teams"

[yahyynzer]

Surely you mean "No Ferrari in F1 = loads more money for the other teams"

Or possibly, "No Ferrari in F1 = No Ferrari"

Anyway, I don't know why people are jumping to Ferrari's defence. LdM spoke about the Teams throughout and that the Teams demand more share. At no time did LdM make out he was talking about Ferrari only.

[leangarance]

And remember: no Ferrari no F1. It's as simple as that

F1 went ahead perfectly well without Ferrari when the FIA Formula 1 World Championship began at Silverstone in 1950 and it would mange without them now.

Their departure would be a big loss of course, but this "threat" has been wheeled out from time to time, most frequently by Enzo Ferrari. If Luca really means it then he'd do more damage to Ferrari than to F1.

[soonahonsefalh]

F1 went ahead perfectly well without Ferrari when the FIA Formula 1 World Championship began at Silverstone in 1950 and it would mange without them now.

Their departure would be a big loss of course, but this "threat" has been wheeled out from time to time, most frequently by Enzo Ferrari. If Luca really means it then he'd do more damage to Ferrari than to F1.

Plus he would not threaten, he would simply do it.

[boffincash]

did you not see this

Is this statement excluding the way the other FOTA teams feel about the subject? IOW, Is this excluding this: "Ferrari and other F1 teams?

[boffincash]

Ferrari's Director of Defence:

Sorry I had a chuckle about this. Theres nothing more annoying than the blind assumption that any team on the grid is bigger than the sport itself. F1 is steeped in history and Ferrari are a hefty part of that, but lets not get carried away with the notion that if Ferrari left, the sport would crumble because thats utter balls. The sport would be poorer, but it would continue and the technology display would still be there.

Well, there is only one way to find out.

[boffincash]

Surely you mean "No Ferrari in F1 = loads more money for the other teams"

On the contrary, sir. Without Ferrari the money coming would much less.

[boffincash]

Or possibly, "No Ferrari in F1 = No Ferrari"

Anyway, I don't know why people are jumping to Ferrari's defence. LdM spoke about the Teams throughout and that the Teams demand more share. At no time did LdM make out he was talking about Ferrari only.

I'll tell you why I am jumping in Ferrari defence. Mainly because of lack hionesty in reading the article posted correctly. One thing is not being a Ferrari supporter it's entirely different bashing Ferrari on non existing facts as stated in the article.

[leangarance]

Luca certainly has had quite a bit to say recently. Has there been a media event at Maranello or something? Here's a few examples:

Bernie Ecclestone's continued control over Formula 1 is vital if the sport is to secure its long-term future, believes Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88726
Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo says he will continue to push for top teams to be allowed to run three cars, and for the testing limits to be relaxed. Di Montezemolo was critical of the new generation of circuits too, echoing FIA president Jean Todt's recent suggestion that future new tracks need to prioritise overtaking possibilities. But he felt that the FIA's recent decision to end the team orders ban showed that the governing body was moving in the right direction under Todt. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88705
Felipe Massa drove like his brother during parts of the 2010 season, according to Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88690

[yahyynzer]

I'll tell you why I am jumping in Ferrari defence. Mainly because of lack hionesty in reading the article posted correctly. One thing is not being a Ferrari supporter it's entirely different bashing Ferrari on non existing facts as stated in the article.

I appreciate thet English isn't your first language but I don't understand the point you are trying to make.

Are you trying to say that the artical was posted correctly but the facts stated in the artical were untrue? If so, which ones?

I wasn't bashing Ferrari but trying to make the point that LdM was speaking from the point of view of being a Team Principal and not as the Principal of Ferrari.

[thakitt]

Well, there is only one way to find out.

Dare I say that F1 would still continue without the likes of Mclaren too to try and move myself away from being labelled as a Ferrari "hater"? No team is bigger than the sport.

[boffincash]

I appreciate thet English isn't your first language but I don't understand the point you are trying to make.

Are you trying to say that the artical was posted correctly but the facts stated in the artical were untrue? If so, which ones?

I wasn't bashing Ferrari but trying to make the point that LdM was speaking from the point of view of being a Team Principal and not as the Principal of Ferrari.

What I am saying is that the comments posted in here do not reflect the contents found in the article. LdM was speaking for Ferrari and also for the other FOTA teams.

As for not bashing Ferrari, thank you. I appreciate it. I welcome to have discussions that are fair and straight to the point.

PS "artical" I see we all have our difficulties with the English language

[Ltftujkg]

Ferrari drops Italian proteges
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=49838
Ferrari has dropped young Italians Mirko Bortolotti and Daniel Zampieri from its driver development programme at the end of the scheme's first year.

[boffincash]

Dare I say that F1 would still continue without the likes of Mclaren too to try and move myself away from being labelled as a Ferrari "hater"? No team is bigger than the sport.

I don't think Ecclestone would like to take the chance to see Ferrari go.

Now going back to the what the article really says Ferrari never mentioned they would quit the sport. They said would create a parallel series with all the FOTA teams and have their own champioship as they almost did not too long ago.
Now where would that leave Ecclestone and the F1 as we know it?

[thakitt]

Now going back to the what the article really says Ferrari never mentioned they would quit the sport. They said would create a parallel series with all the FOTA teams and have their own champioship as they almost did not too long ago.
Now where would that leave Ecclestone and the F1 as we know it?

I would imagine the FIA in coalition with Bernie Ecclestone would block the application of the breakaway series and not grant it the valid license to run. The FIA earn alot of money out of Bernie and would do everything in their power to make sure this continues. When I was at the British GP in 2009 the last threat was at its height, and its wasn't popular amongst fans (not just British before that accusation is put forward) and the protest was visible. Fans were annoyed with the FIA, but the breakaway series was feared on the whole.

If a new series was formed the history, and teams strengths within the series would start from scratch as far as I am concerned. Ferrari wouldn't be able to claim to be the oldest most prestigious F1 team and Mclaren and everyone else would be start the era on zero World Championships. It just wouldn't feel the same, although would possibily provide exciting racing. Its sad that teams are in a position where they have to threaten a governing body in order to convey what they want.

[durootrium]

Well I remember them saying last time that they were definitely going to have a breakaway series and there was nothing that was going to stop them going down that path now, but of course it all came back together in the end.

A breakaway series would be akin to nuclear war, both sides would lose! "The only way to win is not to play"

[boiffrona]

The article linked below;

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/1...ing-champions/

...in the latter part of it, elaborates a little more on LDM's stance and it obviously all stems from renewal of Concorde......

[soonahonsefalh]

Ferrari drops Italian proteges
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=49838

Is there any particular reason you picked a thread that this story has absolutely no relevance when you could have placed it in "The Ferrari Thread"?
I'm just curious am I missing part of the message?