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Old 08-17-2010, 07:30 AM   #1
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Default Windsor: I'd try again with the right people
http://www.thef1times.com/news/display/01732
Peter Windsor, one half of the founding members behind the failed USF1 outfit, says he's come out the other side of the saga a better man, a man who'd try again if he found the correct group of people.
Windsor though, says he was oblivious to the fact it wasn't ever going to succeed, despite the fans and the media questioning the entry. i do like his rose colored glasses
http://www.thef1times.com/news/cache/images/windsor.jpg
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:36 AM   #2
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As much as it would be easy to be critical for their failure, having not sucessfully started an F1 team myself, I'll leave the bashing to those that have done such things. I would imagine it's not an easy task.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:01 AM   #3
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I just wish he would return to Speed in the meantime.

Windsor IS part of f1 and was for a long time - he is extremely astute and insightful and was a tremendous asset to the broadcast team both in the pre-race show and during the race.

The Speed f1 broadcast is significantly the poorer and his replacement is just dreadful. The Speed pre-race show used to be compelling viewing - it is now one to miss.

Such a pity.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:18 AM   #4
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Peter who?

So 2009!
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:01 AM   #5
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Peter who?

So 2009!
Sigh .... it was a VERY good year!
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:53 PM   #6
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As much as it would be easy to be critical for their failure, having not sucessfully started an F1 team myself, I'll leave the bashing to those that have done such things. I would imagine it's not an easy task.
you can still read how full of it he was here:

http://www.usgpe.com/blog.html

No need to bash when you can simply read what he had to say...anyone paying attention knows he was borderline making stuff up he entire time...
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Old 08-17-2010, 02:01 PM   #7
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Yawn.. Peter Windsor is deluded.
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:01 PM   #8
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As much as it would be easy to be critical for their failure, having not sucessfully started an F1 team myself, I'll leave the bashing to those that have done such things. I would imagine it's not an easy task.
You don't have to be one of the handful of people who have ever started an F1 team to realise just how full of hot-air Windsor was (and apparently still is).

By your own self-imposed rule I assume you'll never again criticise a driver, seeing as how you yourself don't hold a superlicence?

He may have got himself a completely clueless and inept partner in Anderson but that's no excuse for his abject failure to manage the project in a resoponsible way, and for his refusal to admit even to himself that their were gaping holes in his plan.

Windsor may well have learned lessons from his experience, but I hope it's a very long time indeed before he dabbles in F1 again.
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:28 PM   #9
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I which JV good luck with his plans.
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:48 AM   #10
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Please no....
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Old 08-18-2010, 06:50 AM   #11
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Good luck to him. The more people that try the better. If they do fail spectacularly then we haven't lost anything*

And this:

As much as it would be easy to be critical for their failure, having not sucessfully started an F1 team myself, I'll leave the bashing to those that have done such things. I would imagine it's not an easy task.
*if the FIA ditch their franchise system and just open it up and let those who can, do, so nobody is squeezed out by any chancers.
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Old 08-18-2010, 06:55 AM   #12
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has peter windsor got a mute button on him, all I hear is mow mow mow mow mow mow. lol btw peter windsor shouldn't even think about it
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:54 AM   #13
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If you dont dream then you cannot achieve - and if Windsor persists and can arrange something then why not?

Just because a person fails once does not mean giving up.
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Old 08-18-2010, 08:36 AM   #14
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If you dont dream then you cannot achieve - and if Windsor persists and can arrange something then why not?

Just because a person fails once does not mean giving up.
I agree with STD. Three hoorays for failure!
We should throw a 'You failed, liar' party for Windsor and give him a hug.

Also, in honor of STD, I'll leave just lay down a random cliche.
Put a cork in it? Yeah, that works.
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:23 AM   #15
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You don't have to be one of the handful of people who have ever started an F1 team to realise just how full of hot-air Windsor was (and apparently still is).
Really? Can you think of anything you do in regular life that compares to an international sport that consists of so few teams, and requires so much sponsorship money that your only hope at all is to convince people that once they hand over the money you can do it?

The difference between sucess and failure in any business is often a very small margin of error, especially during the initial start up periods. During my years as a small business owner I watched hundreds fail in the same field, and I'm sure what I did pales in comparison to the efforts of being 1 of 13 teams in the world to put a duo of cars on a modern Formula 1 grid.


By your own self-imposed rule I assume you'll never again criticise a driver, seeing as how you yourself don't hold a superlicence?
Though I've done some amateur level racing, I've always been one well aware that the worst driver on an F1 grid is likely vastly more talented than myself, the vast majority of amateur racers, and the vast majority of professional racers.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:19 AM   #16
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Really? Can you think of anything you do in regular life that compares to an international sport that consists of so few teams, and requires so much sponsorship money that your only hope at all is to convince people that once they hand over the money you can do it?

The difference between sucess and failure in any business is often a very small margin of error, especially during the initial start up periods. During my years as a small business owner I watched hundreds fail in the same field, and I'm sure what I did pales in comparison to the efforts of being 1 of 13 teams in the world to put a duo of cars on a modern Formula 1 grid.




Though I've done some amateur level racing, I've always been one well aware that the worst driver on an F1 grid is likely vastly more talented than myself, the vast majority of amateur racers, and the vast majority of professional racers.
If you can't see a carpetbagger even when's he's been revealed then God help you son...
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Old 08-18-2010, 04:27 PM   #17
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Good luck to him. The more people that try the better. If they do fail spectacularly then we haven't lost anything
Unless you're a supplier owed money, a driver who thought he had a seat for 2010 so stopped talking to other teams, or one of the people who quite their jobs and put their faith in USF1 - some of them relocating their families in the process.
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:07 PM   #18
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God, he is a fool, isn't he? He'd be better off selling snowmobiles in Hell.
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:45 PM   #19
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I doubt very much that the 'right prople' would want to have anything to do with one Peter Windsor.
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Old 08-19-2010, 02:04 PM   #20
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Unless you're a supplier owed money, a driver who thought he had a seat for 2010 so stopped talking to other teams, or one of the people who quite their jobs and put their faith in USF1 - some of them relocating their families in the process.
Exactly. Quite a few key members of staff were tempted away from other F1 teams and moved across the Atlantic with their families purely to design a lump of carbon fibre that expressed no resemblance to an F1 car by the time the money ran out. I think if I was one of those guys, I'd be serving Windsor a sandwich and no he wouldn't get a choice of filling. Sorry I stole someone else philosophy there lol.
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