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Old 08-13-2008, 05:29 PM   #1
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Default It's war. Part III
Originally posted by Harovan
There's a difference between military and political hostility. Georgia is politically hostile toward Russia. As are the United States. If you don't like the word "hostile", just replace it with "unfriendly".
WTF does that have to do with anything? I suggest you look up the meaning of the term ceasefire and see if it has to do with the feelings the combatants have for one another.
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:33 PM   #2
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As long as you have control over them, yes. But there has just been a war, with all disorder that comes with it.
No, looting and pillaging or whatever are always a warcrime regardless. And Russia has every ability to control the irregulars who marched in with their own damn columns if they wanted, SO is hardly in any position to disobey the orders of their masters.

Cease-fires haven't meant **** since 1939, so **** that. It seemed to work fine in 1991.
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:37 PM   #3
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Yes, that's why we're talking about it today. Who is talking about it?
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:40 PM   #4
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As you so elegantly control the Iraqi army? Is the Iraqi Army in another country at our behest? Hell, is it even under our command? No. No. You Fail.

Is it even looting for that matter? Jesus, you guys can't make a valid comparison to save your life
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:42 PM   #5
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The RSFSR used to tightly control the former Soviet republics, and where has that **** gotten us?

The point is, you can't control all unforeseen or even foreseen factors. You should know that.
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:49 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Patroklos


Is the Iraqi Army in another country at our behest? Hell, is it even under our command? No. No. You Fail.

Is it even looting for that matter? Jesus, you guys can't make a valid comparison to save your life No, you're in their country without their behest. ****, what a paradox.

Hell, without your commands and oversight, the Iraqi army would rather take a **** on you, rather than save their own lives. They mostly prefer to dessert, anyway. Why is that?

And why the **** would you bring up looting? You think Russia told them to go loot?

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Old 08-13-2008, 05:56 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Patroklos


Wow, Russia couldn't forsee that the very irregular militia who actually started this war in the first place with Russia support or at the very least blind eye (while breaking a ceasefire no less) would not honor the current ceasefire?

Russia has every ability to make SO do whatever the hell they want. The fact that they are not says alot about Russia.
Are you the spokesperson for ****ing US Army? What told you that South Ossetia, for Christ's sake, attacked Georgia.. an Army briefing?
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Old 08-13-2008, 05:59 PM   #8
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Why do you even bother trying to talk sense to a poster named Propaganda? Then shut the **** up. You're both long away from home to talk about Russia. Settle your cluster**** of affairs, and stop throwing your 2 cents everywhere you go, your "money" isn't worth much to Russians anymore.
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:06 PM   #9
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Originally posted by Patroklos


Wait, so now you admit your comparison was retarded as well?



Because that is what they are doing while breaking the ceasefire, and they are doing it under the supervision of their Russian masters.

I am not supprised that Russia is not supervising them, their "peacekeepers" spent a whole decade not supervising them.



SO militia had been shelling/mortaring the Georgians for days before Georgia attacked, all while the Russians tasked with preventing this very thing sat with their thumbs up their asses. What comparison? Georgian forces surrounded Tshinvali, having sent shells into Russian peace-keepers' barracks beforehand. What kind of ****ing response do you think this warrants? What proof do you have that Russia asked South Ossetia to start a war with South Ossetia, by the way?

And oh yeah, South Ossetia has its own leadership, and president, so why don't you ask him why the **** he's not doing anything about it?
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:28 PM   #10
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Originally posted by Chemical Ollie


How could the rebels sport a 50 tank column, one week after they were attacked by Georgia? All ancient tanks owned by rebels should have been more or less wiped out on the first day.

The tanks must be Russian. And I trust the Swedish reporters can tell the difference between Russians and rebels when they are talking to the soldiers riding in the column. "Dmitry Peskov on CNN confirms by phone that there were battle-ready Georgian tank battalions on the outskirts of Gori, and Russian maneuvers were necessary to "trace out" and demilitarize the immediate area."


Who is embedded with the Georgian Army, by the way?
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:34 PM   #11
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Good luck demanding ****. This isn't the Soviet Union in the 80s, with food shortages, dependent on import of grain.
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:40 PM   #12
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Originally posted by Propaganda
Then shut the **** up. You're both long away from home to talk about Russia. Settle your cluster**** of affairs, and stop throwing your 2 cents everywhere you go, your "money" isn't worth much to Russians anymore. See, Pat. He can't even come close to making sense.
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:53 PM   #13
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Originally posted by Propaganda


"Dmitry Peskov on CNN confirms by phone that there were battle-ready Georgian tank battalions on the outskirts of Gori, and Russian maneuvers were necessary to "trace out" and demilitarize the immediate area."


Who is embedded with the Georgian Army, by the way? Why would that be necessary? They were far inside their own border, and not shooting at anyone, were they?
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:06 PM   #14
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Originally posted by Lord_Icewind
PS: Please excuse me if something in the text is difficult to understand; as I am spanish and my english is, alas, not yet perfect. Looked pretty good to me.
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:29 PM   #15
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Wait, so the Russians haven't taken Tblisi yet?????

Anyway, it was funny hearing Saakshavili claim that Russian forces were heading to dethrone him at the same time his interior minister is telling people to calm down, that Russian forces weren't movng towards the capital. Nice way to coordinate PR efforts there.....

The Russians should be taking steps to stop looting by Ossetians of Georgian villages - its that kind of tribal tit for tat that makes the Caucauses such a problem, and its wrong for the Russians to allow it, as they seem to be doing.
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Old 08-13-2008, 08:29 PM   #16
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PLATO, Zkribbler:
My thanks. I try to improve it everyday (and one way is posting on english-speaking forums, like this one).

And back on-topic: Georgia won a couple of gold medals. Yay for them.
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:32 PM   #17
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What's the banner say (the banner below the GWAR in Georgia banner)?
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:52 PM   #18
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we're against lies and injustice
leave georgia alone.
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:57 PM   #19
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I wish I could use the power of commercial break too.
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Old 08-15-2008, 06:03 PM   #20
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Originally posted by Saras
There was a large protest in Vilnius today, and I couldn't help but post one picture. GWAR IN GEORGIA!!!

The chicks in Georgia appear not to be hot.

Actually I was after the other pic.
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